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If I were A&E;? Well, I'd monetize the hell out of the situation. Suspend the dude and get the interest of both the for and against crowd to drive traffic. wait a minute isn't that exactly what they did?
Yes he should. It's simply a business decision. The network has decided it stands to lose money if it's seen to be supportive of his views by not taking action so buhbye.
Who cares really? Everything on TV these days is about ducks, trailer parks and swamps, so what's one less puke on one show that nobody with an IQ higher than the average houseplant gives a shit about?
It is a business decision. A&E;has to realize that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't, The gays are going to be pissed. But they are a small minority. If they do, they stand to piss off the religious right. And they are a larger number of people. All A&E;had to do was to state that the comments made by Phil does not represent the company's position. ;)
I don't really care... that's up to A&E;. I just want to ask one question: Am I the only person on the fucking planet that thinks this show is ignorant and not funny?
yes, it is not a first amendment issue. If you went to your boss and called him a fat scumbag with ugly gay children, you would get fired in a second and the first amendment would not protect you
He should have been aware that the populace does not condone such things and if the public were to hear him utter what he has, then that would bring down the rating of the show and cause the network to lose some money. The decision to remove him from the show would be justified.
I think that the whole show should be kicked off the network.Even though it is a good example of how ignorant certain parts of our society still are.
Hopefully the U.S will expand towards, connect to and advance those parts, in the future.
A nice chunk U.S's defense is composed of people like them. I do not trust our country in their hands.
I actually just finished reading an article about that. I think anyone who watches the show would have realized by now that Phil, being a redneck pastor, isn't going to have much respect for homosexuals. It would have been wise of him to keep his opinions to himself, but in the end that's all they are... his opinions.
I've never seen the show but from what I've heard it's a "reality" show with some rednecks, so to expect Phil, who is a pastor and a redneck, to not be against homosexuality is ridiculous. I understand they put him on leave because they want to maintain a certain image, but they are the ones that made a show about a bunch or rednecks and now they are upset about them acting like rednecks. Seems pretty ridiculous to me.
I once heard that Phil was going to leave the show because the producers kept having "Jesus" edited out of their meal time prayers that always occur at the end of the show. Who in the world is going to watch a show about a bunch of redneck Christians and get offended when they say "Jesus" during a prayer?
They must have new people running the network now because they used to have the show Dog the Bounty Hunter on their network just last year and in every episode they would have a prayer starting with "Dear Jesus".
I think the fact that everyone gets so offended nowadays is why reality shows don't seem real. Everything has to be toned down, so that it doesn't offend anyone. That's why it's such a shock to people when they hear stuff like "Phil from Duck Dynasty is anti-gay". They see the cleaned up version of him and think he's like that all of the time.
No, he shouldn't be kicked for stating his own views about homosexuality. I find it now that you can't even voice your own opinions theses days if you are against homosexuality it seems. This is just the beginning of persecution coming to Christians in America.
Honestly, I have to agree with Srom here... at least part of your post:
"No, he shouldn't be kicked for stating his own views about homosexuality. I find it now that you can't even voice your own opinions theses days..."
It seems everything is offensive to someone, especially when it's you stating you don't like something, regardless of what it is.
Everyone is crying about their rights being taken away, a lot of the times when they aren't, and it's really pissing me off that everyone is jumping on this "victim" train. No Srom, don't worry I'm not talking about you, I'm just adding on to the part of your post I agree with.
As for my actual reasoning why I don't think he should be kicked off:
He stated his beliefs in an interview, not only that, but he was specifically asked by the interviewer for those particular beliefs. He was not representing Duck Dynasty. And unfortunately, being famous, it seems nearly everything you do could be argued as representing what you are currently part of -- especially interviews. He should not be kicked off because they were his personal views and those views did not specifically interfere with his job on tv.
Yes, his views were bigoted and ignorant. But you can't claim "hate speech" at everything you don't like or is wrong.
People have the RIGHT to believe in racism, so long as it does not interfere with the legal rights of others. People have the right to believe the Holocaust was a lie/didn't exist, so long as it does not interfere with the legal rights of others. People have the right to believe Christians are assholes, so long as it doesn't interfere with the legal rights of others.
Which when he said something against the homosexuals, he is ultimately is against homosexuality itself.
Yeah, but it was not the disagreeing itself that got him fired. He said several rude and uninformed things about homosexuals, that's what got him fired. Read the article.
Did you read the article? He said nothing hateful against homosexuals. When asked what a sin was, he told what he thought was a sin. I mean, is it not right to answer a question based on your beliefs? He didn't condemn the GLAAD community. However, they did condemn him. He pushed no vile and extreme stereotypes. Just said that he thought it was wrong for a person to: be homosexual, commit bestiality, and sleep around.
"Simply put, Phil Robertson is being censored and punished for quoting the Bible, and A&E;'s treatment of him is punitive and highly discriminatory," said Chris Stone, the organization's founder.
Did YOU read the article? He said a lot more than "it's a sin": It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man’s anus,...That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.
Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong. Sin becomes fine...Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.
Aside from that, I do agree that he shouldn't have been fired, he was asked for his opinions in an interview, but he should have been smarter about it to avoid backlash.
Even though A&E;has the right to kick him off, they should've though about that before they made a show about an old Southern pastor :/
Just because Obama isn't Christian doesn't mean that I am not a Christian. I am still a Christian even if Obama isn't a Christian. I am the one who chooses to believe. You don't. So your lousy comment was unnecessary.
For one thing, he's stated that he believes there are multiple paths one can take to become Christian. if he truly believes the Bible condones this, his faith is at the very least seriously compromised.
Sorry, I didn't phrase that correctly. I meant that Obama believes there are many paths to heaven. The Bible is fairly clear cut on this issue, stating that only by accepting Jesus can one enter heaven.
Yeah, and Methodists, Baptists, and all those other groups believe in Christ and the Abrahamic god. Those groups are all different yet Christian, therefore "many different ways to heaven".
Uhh... His first name is Barrack, which rhymes with Iraq (if you pronounce it as E-Rock). His middle name is Hussein... Saddam Hussein! Hello! Are you with me here? And his last name... oh, this is a big one... Obama... O-Bomb-Uh... it also rhymes with Usama... Do you see now!? Muslim Alert!
Wtf? Ronald doesn't sound like Romulus! It sounds like... uh... Donald? McDonald? Ronald McDonald! He was a pagan burger-loving clown with a ray gun! Wow... what a shocker.
Holy crap, he is a muslim, that means.....well... Absolutley nothing. Even if he was a Muslim, would it matter? Last time I checked there was no rule in the Constitution that says that the President of the USA should be a Christian.
Well, considering the majority of our nation's biggest enemies right now are Muslims... I would feel a little bit nervous if he were to be one himself. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Lol ,yup thats redneck reasoning, funny thing is my sons grand mother, love her to death is a bible thumping anti obama drone, she told me the same thing, Obama is a Muslim, hes not Christian look at his name lol.
You can voice your opinion all you want, but that doesn't mean there won't be repercussions for it. Just like if I go on some racist rant in front of a customer I shouldn't be shocked if my boss fires me. Although I think it was stupid for A&E to do what they did in this particular case, they had every right to do it. They own the network and they have every right to determine who and what is on it.
This so called "persecution" of Christians you are talking about is nothing more than people fighting back against Christianities persecution of gay people. Christians persecute people and when those people get fed up and decide to stand up for themselves Christians cry "they're persecuting us!"
I Jumped at this because I wanted to hear someone saying things like " It should be illegal, and the should be arrested for life, they don't deserve rights" e.t.c.
No, if he is just saying that he prefers the P to the D, then really, it's his view. In fact, it's a majority view, hence homosexuals being a minority. He's an idiot yes, but there are bigger fish to worry about frying at the moment.
He shouldn't be punished, but his comments were bad. What is really bad is that he is getting in trouble also for his comments on black people where all he did was give an observation that the black people he knew weren't upset at the white man.
First off, I absolutley HATE the show and its stars. However, free speech doesnt apply only to those views that I accept. For example I hate Rush Limbaughs guts, but I acknowledge that he has the right to express his opinions as well as I do. Besides, hes a sourthern evangelical redneck, what else were they expecting?
So is it safe to assume that you don't have an official Duck Dynasty towel, blanket, t-shirt, hat, sunglasses, piggy bank, bobble-head, duck call, cellphone cover, lunch box, bathing suit, seat cover, steering wheel cover, gun case, Christmas CD, sweet tea, books, calendar, strap-on beard, boots, posters, action figures, toy gun... and all of that other shit?
Especially considering that he made these comments away from the show after being asked what his views were, it's ridiculous to suspend him going by the logic that A&E;will now be indirectly rendered as anti-gay. Besides, for a show that's deeply constituted in Christianity, A&E;had to be stupid to not see this, or an equivalent occurrence, coming.