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Debate Score:69
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Will Homosexual Christians go to Heaven or Hell?

Assuming they both exist and everything else. 

Heaven

Side Score: 44
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Hell

Side Score: 25
5 points

The Christian faith sees homosexuality as a sin. The bible says that all sins are equal in God's eyes. Therefor, being homosexual is no better than committing murder and no worse than cheating on a math test. Whether a gay person goes to heaven or not is all dependent on his or faith in Jesus Christ.

Side: Heaven
EEguy(21) Disputed
2 points

So what your saying is that you can do whatever the hell you want in your lifetime. Kill, rape, steal, ect and as long as your "faith in Jesus" is solid your good to go when you reach heaven? That sounds like an oxymoron. Or the best deal ever.. Wish our justice system functioned in the same manner, that way i could have all kinds of fun!

Side: Hell
sonya(20) Clarified
2 points

Your underestimating God c;

He changes you, that is the amazing grace everyone sings about. This change is not a change that you don't want, in fact he changes what you want! No, this is not religious brainwash at all, this is God.

My boyfriend used to be a sexually driven party boy, he did drugs, got drunk, chased after girls in short skirts.

But guess what, one night with the holy spirit, his desires changed. All of the want to do that stuff was gone! He hasn't touched the stuff since then. His addictions broken, in on night.

No this wasn't the church, since he's been going on and off for a few months and he found it fun but nothing really changed, he still wanted to do all that stuff.

Now, his addiction to porn that he's had for 4 year was broken, and it wasn't because of me cause he doesn't actually get any from me hahahhahahhah.

I knew him before, I know him now. He has been transformed from the inside out.

Romans 12:2 yo'

Side: Heaven
NuckinFuts0(9) Clarified
1 point

All sins are not the same. Some sins completely separate oneself from God. While others cause a separation but not a complete separation.

Side: Heaven
3 points

If the only sin specified as unforgivable is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, then all other sins are forgivable. If all other sins are forgivable, and homosexuality is a sin, then it should be possible for a Christian homosexual to enter Heaven upon being forgiven.

Side: Heaven
2 points

Homosexuality is a sin, bet hey, everyone is a sinner according to Christianity, right? So I suppose so long as you agree to live a miserable life of self-denial, anyone can get into heaven!

Side: Heaven
2 points

If there were a heaven and mortals had opportunity to go there based on merit, and merit were judged by an all powerful, all knowing, all good being,

Neither religion nor sexual preference would be the basis this being would judge mortals by.

Side: Heaven
1 point

Either is possible. Most people forget that heaven is a choice. It is our choice. We also forget that we choose heaven or hell by our very actions. So that being said either is possible. Someone can be homosexual but not practice homosexual activities. In this case, provided they have asked forgiveness of all other sins, they could go to heaven after death.

If someone does practice homosexual activities and they know that it violates natural law, then they are effectively choosing not to be in communion with God. And not being in communion with God is hell. That being said such a person must die in this state. They always have the option to renounce their past and choose to be in communion with God again.

Therefore, it is possible for any homosexual to go to heaven.

Side: Heaven
1 point

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[b] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Regardless if homosexuality is a choice or not it is still a sin to act upon your desires...

Matthew 5:27-30

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

It is a sin to desire heterosexual actions... let alone homosexual ones.

Psalm 51:5

5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,

and in sin did my mother conceive me.

All sin is an inborn thing. Its called original sin.

Hebrews 12:1

12 Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,

We all have that sin that clings so closely. I lust all the time... more than I wish I did... And I am prideful and boastful....

2 Corinthians 3:18 says,

"And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit."

We are being transformed into His likeness!

Romans 7:25

Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

Even though we are Christians, we still sin but wish to be perfect.

Matthew 26:41

41 Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

We are many times too weak to fight sin.

Regardless if a person is a homosexual or not, he or she must learn to control it or at least try! For if we do not hate our sin then we are not of God. If we are not of God then we are not righteous. If we are not righteous then we do not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Homosexuals go to heaven if they turn themselves over to Christ and begin to understand the evils of homosexuality. Once they understand this and actually try to conquer it... I believe that they will go to heaven because they will truly know Christ.

Side: Heaven

They will go to heaven after they have paid for their sins in hell.

Side: Heaven
lolzors93(3225) Clarified
1 point

Hell is eternal.....

Matthew 25:46

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

2 Thessalonians 1:9

9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from[a] the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,

Side: Heaven
1 point

At the end of the day times have changed, people have eveolved.. maybe if a few more people had the confidence to come out the closet it would decrease the problem of over population.. and give more orphans the chance to have a home with two people that will love them and ideally be able to bring them up in a worlld where they arent alienated by haters who swear by a book that was written over 2000 years ago when people also believed the world was flat!.

Side: Heaven
1 point

If the gay person has asked for forgiveness for all their sins , asked God in their heart , and has been cleansed by the blood of Christ ; absolutely . I am a lesbian , yet I have been a devoted Christian since I was 7 . I'm sick of this argument , I thought maybe that we'd evolved from such close-minded views of homosexuality , seeing that it is 2012 . If you're saved , you're saved . PERIOD . Have you ever cussed , lied , said God's name in vain , thought about someone in your mind dirty ? THEN YOU'VE DONE JUST WHAT GAY PEOPLE HAVE DONE . I'm sick of Christians not accepting gays , this is why we Christians are seen as judgmental & close-minded . YOU NEED TO ACCEPT & NOT JUDGE . God loves everyone , period .

Side: Heaven
1 point

I don't believe in heaven nor in hell. But, if they exist and if God is fair like the Bible and the religion say, the homosexual Christians will go to heaven. Unless, of course, that they have another reason to go to hell. But they will not go to hell just because they are homosexuals. Sexual orientation is not a choice, so how could the fair God punish the homosexuals forever in hell because of something that isn't their choice?

Side: Heaven
1 point

All sin IS the same.

We are ALL sinners, not one of us better then the other.

Thank the Father for sending Jesus.

Side: Heaven

There are millions of Gay people in Heaven and the bigots who did not like them on Earth are now finding out how wrong they were about them.

Side: Heaven
0 points

Everyone knows that Thor and Odin'll pimpslap the shit out of Yaweh and his posse for being so petty.

Side: Heaven
3 points

If you are Christian then there is no question that you should make such a sin of being Homosexual. So i would say that a homosexual 'Christian' would go to hell. But then again, it is not a humans choice to make.

Side: Hell
carolineee(4) Clarified
2 points

Have you ever cussed , judged someone , lusted , envied , lied , stolen ? DO YOU CHOOSE TO BE STRAIGHT . Absolutely not . We gays can either choose God or not , just like you . I have chosen Jesus Christ as my savior . Jesus doesn't judge based on race , sexuality , hair color , gender . YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE I'M A LESBIAN I'M GOING TO HELL . I'm a lesbian Christian , yes they still exist , even after fools like you try to shoo them away . I'm believe in Jesus , but not in many of his followers . Sick of people like you making gays feel unloved & bad , because you have sinned just as much as we have . & sexuality isn't a choice , is heterosexuality a choice ? no ? THEN HOW CAN YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS .

Side: Heaven
2 points

We all know Leviticus 18:22, and Jesus himself said that gays don't go to heaven (1Corinthians 6:9).

It's your bible, not mine, as far as I'm concerned, if you're going to dismiss half of it, you might as well dismiss the whole thing.

Side: Hell
sonya(20) Clarified
1 point

Context, context, context bro.

Jesus fulfilled the law (Matthew 5:17), it does not mean it does not exist anymore, but mean we no longer have to 'work' to get to heaven.

If you keep reading onto, 1 Corinthians 6:11, you will see that Paul said this to make sure we all knew we were ALL sinners, but we could ALL be washed, sanctified and justified from the name and blood of Jesus Chirst.

Side: Heaven
1 point

Christian Homosexual will not go to heaven they would go to hell because homosexuals are not going to enter the kingdom of heaven. Christians homosexuals should know by now that they shouldn't be homosexuals because they aren't going to go to heaven.

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Cor 6:9, NIV

Side: Hell
Firnen Disputed
4 points

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Cor 6:9, NIV

Well you say quite wicked things to people who yoo don't like on this site so enjoy Hell, may God have mercy on your soul.

Side: Heaven
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

Well you say quite wicked things to people who yoo don't like on this site so enjoy Hell, may God have mercy on your soul.

Just because I say something not that nice to you doesn't mean I will go to hell.

How do you know I said wicked things? You just made your account

Side: Hell
Thornberry(9) Disputed
2 points

Well if thats the case I hope you've never stolen, gotten drunk, or said a mean thing about another person. If so, you are going to hell too.

Side: Heaven
Srom(12206) Disputed
2 points

I have stolen something but I asked God for forgiveness and now I don't do it anymore. I am only 15 and no I will never get drunk.

Jesus also said go and sin no more meaning don't do the same sin over and over again that is what repenting is.

Side: Hell
Cynical(1948) Disputed
1 point

Sure, the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, but it never gives any reason to do so. All you're doing is blindly following a religious document.

Side: Heaven
NuckinFuts0(9) Disputed
2 points

The bible does not have to give a reason because we have the ability to figure that out for ourselves.

As humans we are rational beings. This means that we know the consequences of action, we can speculate, we can make goals and derive means to achieving those goals. These are just a few of our abilities as rational beings. Given this aspect of the human we can know why homosexuality is wrong.

For everything we know we can assign an efficient cause and a final cause. This is coming from the works of the philosopher Aristotle. An Efficient Cause explains how something came to be. While the Final Cause explains what a particular thing naturally works towards, in other words, the reason for its existence. So if we take a chair as an example we know that the efficient cause is a carpenter, or some other tradesman. While the final cause is for it to be sat on.

It is this final cause that we are here concerned about and it leads to the notion of the Natural Law. Natural Law is what we humans are inclined to act towards according to our reason. From reason we know that sex is an act. Sex is not an end in itself but it leads to procreation. Naturally all person through reason know that the final cause in the sexual act it procreation. It is for this reason that homosexual acts are contrary to Natural Law and are therefore sinful acts. It is because the act in homosexuality divorces sex from its natural end.

You are suggesting that there is no reason or thought as to why homosexuality is wrong. But it is more so the case that you have never taken the time to analyse what makes a sin a sin. Perhaps you just assumed that sin does not exist based on your belief system, or in other words your faith system? Just be assured that the things written over 2000 years ago and taught ever since have had much more thought put into them than your answer did.

Side: Hell
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

You have to realize why did God tell Paul to write that? The reason why God put that down in the Bible is because it is unnatural and against what God created man and women for.

Side: Hell
sonya(20) Disputed
1 point

1 Corinthians 6:11

And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

As I said above he said this to, make sure people knew they were sinners and on our own account NO ONE would inherit the kingdom of God. But if people kept reading, they would see, ALL who accept Jesus, are 'washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.'

Side: Heaven

First sinners go to hell until they have really learned their lesson. Then they get to go to heaven where everyone who has nothing left to learn hangs out.

Side: Hell
1 point

Umm okay, well firstly I'm astounded to see that many are agreeing that heaven is their destination. Well you clearly have no knowledge in regards to a Christian perspective towards Homosexuality as it is quite evidently condemned. This understanding is derived from the Bible, also referred to as the sacred text which ultimately highlights, and puts in simple terms, the very fact that those who are homosexual will not inherit the kingdom of God. The most well-known biblical reference: "You shall not commit adultery". (Exodus 20:14) merely indicates that it is unacceptable. And Corinthians 9, Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God." - Thereby I strongly suggest you all stop presuming one is granted acceptance into the kingdom of God when it is made clear in the Bible that they WILL NOT :)

Side: Hell
sonya(20) Disputed
1 point

So you have never lusted after a person in your heart? Just thought they were hot?

And we know you have c;

Matthew 5:28 says you too fall under the category of sexually immoral, idolater and an adulterer.

But grace, is what saves us ALL. We are all the same sinners, mary magdalene to hitler. ALL on the same boat.

Only way to heaven is through Jesus 'who we were washed...were sanctified...were justified in the name of'

1 Corinthians 6:11

Side: Heaven