I just replied to a couple of her posts and realized she is the most frustrating member here to deal with since she is so utterly confused about politics and science, yet acts as arrogant as if she is knowledgeable in both. Not a good combination. She also seems unable to comprehend facts if they differ from her ideas.  Why is she so impossible? Is she clinically retarded, do you think? A short bus rider? Or is her ignorance an act? If so it is a good one!

So, as part of my Psych rotation in my doc program for Evo Psyc, I do an six-hour a week shift at a State Psych Hospital in Pontiac. Yesterday I was in the Rec Room watching one of the therapists do a Music Therapy class. There was this middle-aged male patient. Long wild gray hair, sort reminded me of the old Doc character from Back to the Future. So...he's sitting by himself, chanting over and over: "Tweety Bird.......Jehovah."He would look from one hand, palm up, to the other, as if weighing or comparing, while saying Tweety Bird... Jehovah.  Just a said it thirty or forty times before the orderly shushed him up.We all know religious fervor or delusion is one of the most common delusions among the truly psychotic. Yet, the religious nuts keep tapping about high their beliefs, like Creation and God are valid, and science is deluded.So..to them I ask, who don't we see hospitalized schizophrenics chanting things like calculus formulas or Fermat's Last Theorem? LOL. I mean, if science is so wacked and all? It's common for the mentally ill to quote the Bible and speak of God. But they never ever exhort science facts. This I think tells us a lot about the difference between the two. Any psycho can spout religion. Science, not so much. That requires knowledge and reason."Tweety Bird........Jehovah!"LOL

Seems so. Here are just a few of his deeds...It's funny! Christians believe their God is all-good and all-loving. Atheists counter that, according to Christian’s own Bible, God is instead “the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully” (as Dawkins puts it).For example:In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and animals.In Exodus 12:29, God the baby-killer slaughters all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn.In Numbers 16:41-49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them.In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant.In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they are allowed to rape as spoils of war.In 2 Kings 2:23-24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to dismember them.

Top Ten ListTop Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian...10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.....continued below.......

It always amazes me how many times this  God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example,  God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there.  He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).  He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses(Joshua 6).  In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!Just about every other page in the Old Testament has  God killing somebody!  In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!  In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murderedThe God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).  This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.Wow. Just...Wow. As I've said before, "Yahweh: what a douche!"**So....you decide! Which of these little gems is the most loathsome?**

More bad news for the Religious zealots, a fairly recent experiment involving LASER stimulation that mimicked lightening storm activity during Primordial Earth times has clearly shown that Abiogenesis is not only possible but very probable. Of course Science has been chipping away at the Creation Myth for decades now. Evolution provides step-by-step descriptions of how we got here. The Theory has never been significantly challenged. Never. And all but the most zealous Fundies know this. So all they had left to challenge us in science was their whining about Abiogenesis being impossible. Well hell, now even THAT slim straw of an argument from them seems to be as imperiled as a Catholic joining ISIS. LOL. Read this link to learn why!! Those who don't read the link and comment intelligently on it, but rather just paste meaningless bible quotes will be banned. Fire with fire, amigos.SShttp://www.livescience.com/49049-beginning-of-life-experiment.html

One of the common and lamest complaint that us Atheist science guys get from fundie Christian bible thumpers is that we don't respect life. That, just because we don't believe in their imaginary friend sky god, we somehow devalue life. And think that life has no meaning, and that we "cheapen" it by denying their god and their creation myth. That we belittle Mankind by claiming he evolved from lower beings.If course this is pure unadulterated bullshit. Hoakum. Woo. Blather.Truth is, we of science see the REAL beauty of life. Of nature. Of the Cosmos. I revel in the beauty of a starry night or a sunset or a microbe under a microscope or a thriving rain forest. Probably more so then the fundies do. Since they don't try to understand how all that works. And here is where the Fundies' claim that we devalue life is not only WRONG, it is HYPOCRISY!!!Because many of them, such as the Saint guy who changed his name, tell us routinely that all of mankind deserves to burn in Hell. That we have no right to exist outside of it.But WE claim that not only does man not deserve to burn, that there IS no hell. Nor any malevolent god that would send him there. We also see the fragile beauty of life. And those of us acquainted with how old the cosmos really ARE, see just how damn short of a time we are here.Thus...the irony of all this is that it is US--the Atheists and the Scientists--who really hold life more dear than the deluded Christians. After all, they claim not to worry about their shitty lives here, since their sky god has an afterlife awaiting them. Whereas we know there is no such thing as an Afterlife, so we hold every moment of life more dear than they. This was the philosophy of the Epicureans as well. Which is what my philosophy on life is as well.So to all your fundies...shut your yaps on this topic. I do not want to hear how we do not value life. We Do!! More than you. And we don't need no stinking sky gods to do it. LOLSS

So I wanted to share it. I was watching an old rerun of one of my favorite all-time series, "Arrested Development." In this particular scene an atheist woman was being asked questions by a judge at a beauty pageant. She was a contestant.I think it was some sort of Christian-sponsored pageant. So the judge asks her, "Can you tell us how much of an impact god has played in your life?"And she replies......"Oh, I'd say about as much as Big Bird or the Keebler elves."LOL.I agree 100%. It is the same for me, and for everybody really, if they truly had to admit it, that god does not do a tangible thing, except act as a placebo adult version of a childhood imaginary friend. Again, like a Big Bird or an elf.What say you, fellow agnostics and atheists?What say you, Christians and bible thumpers?

So..yeah..I was reading a Zoology book on extinct species the other day and one of the factoids I gleaned from it was that a primary reason for a species' extinction or termination is that, along with being unable to protect themselves from stronger competition, they do not contribute anything useful to their environments.So, right after I read this I went down to my local coffee bar and sat next to a table of three very obviously gay butchy lesbians. So....it prompted me to wonder: Will lesbos soon become extinct?Because if you think about it, they go against the very primary and crucial, nee, indispensable #1 drive of our species: To Procreate!! And, unlike their Gay male counterparts, who contribute to society in the way of being good at artsy things, as well as good hair stylists and clothing designers and interior decorators, the Dykes really contribute Zilch to society. All the while thumbing their collective Dykey noses at conventional sex practices and procreation.So...I put it to you, CD denizens: Will the Lesbos on day soon go the way of the DoDo Bird? And should they? What are they good for? Should they maybe become a protected species? Or....indeed: are those Gay rights laws for them in reality a FORM or protecting an endangered species?What say you?

Does science rock, or what?While the religious zealots continue to fight and blabber Bronze Age superstition, and kill each other for petty disagreements over who has the best god (LOL) us scientists do things that matter! That help you. Help the World.How? Like this.....Scientists at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee have discovered a chemical reaction to turn CO2 into ethanol, potentially creating a new technology to help avert climate change. Their findings were published in the journal ChemistrySelect.The researchers were attempting to find a series of chemical reactions that could turn CO2 into a useful fuel, when they realized the first step in their process managed to do it all by itself. The reaction turns CO2 into ethanol, which could in turn be used to power generators and vehicles.The tech involves a new combination of copper and carbon arranged into nanospikes on a silicon surface. The nanotechnology allows the reactions to be very precise, with very few contaminants.

So..yeah...here's the deal, Camille.....At one time...oh, I dunno, up till a couple decades ago. religious freedom and religious rights were all about, well, just that: the believers simply wishing to have the right to practice their religion as they see fit. Without any fear or oppression. But nowadays, they have really over-played their collective hand. Far from simply wanting equality and freedom, they demand that us atheists believe liie they do. And that we also curtail and amend our science and knowledge so as to fit with their beliefs. Which, at the end of the day, usually have no gorunding in provable reality. And are simply spawned from their ancient collection of myths and legends they call their bible.They mock science and knowledge, and yet demand we respect their own ideas; even when they are demonstrably false. Yet, they clearly don't feel a need to respect rationality.The zealots cry foul when we question the unproven and scientifically impossible miracles in their Bible, yet they somehow have the arrogance to claim that tens of thousands of professional scientists--who have devoted most of their lives to their calling--are wrong and just plain ignorant when they believe in things like Evolution.Evolution, BTW, being a "theory" only in the Pythagorean sense: meaning it is a general rule that applies to numerous real world cases. It is NOT a "theory" in the sense it's never been proved. Rather, it gets proved ALL THE TIME.The believers cannot continue to have it both ways. They need to use the same sort of critical analysis and questioning of their own beliefs and holy books as they do when they attempt to denigrate our science. Worse, it has long been my personal experience that most anti-Evolutionists simply do not understand even the basic tenets of the Theory they so zealously rail against.Thanks for your time.SS

Yeah....it's beginning to look as if Trump will probably have to withdraw as the GOP candidate. He is self-destructing worse and worse every day. Last night's debate proved there is no way in Hell this idiot can ever by President.  Mark my words...he will go down in history as a joke. They'll probably even invent a term after him, like "Trumpian" for when some future candidate says something totally outlandish that proves him to be unworthy of office.This is how insanely bad Trumpy is. Among his gaffs Sunday night.... suggesting that as president he would jail his opponent; defend Vladimir Putin and Russia over the hacking of the U.S. election; praise brutal Syrian tyrant Bashar Assad; admit to not paying federal income tax; and rebuke his own running mate for daring to criticize Russia over the indiscriminate bombing of Syrian civilians.That's a very partial list.Trump also lied with enthusiastic regularity, again saying he opposed the second Iraq war before it started (he didn't), claimed his opponent would jack up the tax rate on the middle class (she says she won't) and protested that he did not Tweet at 3 a.m. that people should check out a sex tape featuring a former Miss Universe (he did).And never mind that Trump spent the first portion of the debate apologizing for a video leaked over the weekend in which he grotesquely bragged about his ability to commit sexual assault because he's a "star." Diving deeply into the gutter, Trump tried to turn the video into a bizarre bank shot attack on Clinton by bringing to the debate women who claim former President Bill Clinton sexually abused them.Wow...what a douche bag. I will be happy when he resigns soon. I am guessing in about two weeks or so. Remember where you heard it.SS

I see a lot of homeless bums in my town. So the other day I was waiting at a light on my motorcycle and I heard one bum greet another, "Hey Joe! You look good for a change! You look like a new bum!"So this gave me an idea which I think I am going to patent and develop. They will be for sale at the checkout counters of, say, convenience stores and liquor stores. And maybe even homeless shelters.My product will be called "NuBum!"  It will be like a "goody" bag, consisting of the following items: a pair of socks; a small travel-sized toothpaste and toothbrush; a stick of deodorant; a small can of body spray; a comb; a disposable razor and a travel size can of shave cream. And.....most important: s small airline bottle of vodka to chase away those morning jitters! LOL And I might get with Mickey D's and include a $2.00 gift cert at McDonald's in the bag. (hey: they have a dollar menu there!)Below the bag's "NuBum!" healdine will be a crude little cartoon drawing, depicting a prototypical bum, and the caption, "Why look like an old bum when you can SHINE like a NUBUM?" The bum will be looking up at the sun and smiling.What say you?Thanks!SS

So I wanted to share it. I was watching an old rerun of one of my favorite all-time series, "Arrested Development." In this particular scene an atheist woman was being asked questions by a judge at a beauty pageant. She was a contestant.I think it was some sort of Christian-sponsored pageant. So the judge asks her, "Can you tell us how much of an impact god has played in your life?"And she replies......"Oh, I'd say about as much as Big Bird or the Keebler elves."LOL.I agree 100%. It is the same for me, and for everybody really, if they truly had to admit it, that god does not do a tangible thing, except act as a placebo adult version of a childhood imaginary friend. Again, like a Big Bird or an elf.What say you, fellow agnostics and atheists?What say you, Christians and bible thumpers?SS

Hey...I just thought of something pretty funny! I am gonna make a little word-play line on his bit about how we need to prove we have the right to exist outside of hell.Thus...my question to Mr. Saint..........**"Can you prove that your god has any right to exist outside of your imagination?"**Thanks!! I will be eagerly awaiting your proof. Or proof from ANY Christian here.SS

I wish to extend a heartfelt Thank you to all of you who provided my debate ("An Honest Question for Christians") with your sincere and thoughtful replies. I appreciate your time. Though I would be remiss if I closed here without admitting that, unfortunately, I found none of your testimonies even mildly compelling evidence for the existence of your god. But I appreciate your time, nonetheless.So I will now spend the next couple weeks further digesting some of these posts, along with those I gleaned from three other online open debates I conducted as some source material for the sub-topic of "our evolved minds and belief in the supernatural" for my Dissertation on Evolutionary Psychology.If I indeed deem to use any of your posts or excerpts from them in my Dissertation--which will not be in its final draft for another three or four months or so--I will be sure to PM you with a request for your permission to do so. If you deny me permission or I cannot for any reason reach you to obtain it, rest assured I will not include it in my paper.Thanks again!SS

Question: How can Jesus be God when he denies being absolutely good, and says that only God is good (cf. Mark 10:18)? Answer: The passage, in context, actually says: "As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, ‘Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?’ And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.’" Mark 10:17-18 By wrenching such statements out of their immediate and overall contexts, the impression is given that the Lord Jesus is actually denying he is God since he denies that he is good in the sense that God is good. The questioner's logic goes something like this........ God alone is (absolutely) good. Jesus is not (absolutely) good. Therefore, Jesus is not God.

Watch and laugh and learn as my boy Bill Nye The Science Guy absolutely rips Ken Hamm (author of the absurd "Answers in Genesis" website) a new one regarding the fable of Noah and that big-ass Ark........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc

And I have to agree with our Command in Chief.  Trump is indeed the least qulaified man to ever run for POTUS, and if he were by some miracle to be elected, it would surely spell doom for all of us.What say you?SShttp://nyti.ms/2afz5OG

Here's a link showing Hillary's extremism compared with most American's stance on Abortionhttp://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/01/10-times-hillary-clinton-revealed-how-extreme-she-is-on-abortion/There are only apporximately 13% of Americans who support no restriction abortions . This is how extreme Hillary is. She is competely tied to the big money of the abortion trade.So to all the liars on this site who say they do not support no restriction abortions... IF YOU VOTE FOR HER YOU ARE SUPPORTING IT!ORIGINALLY POSTED BY---FROMWITHIN

A surprisingly specific genetic portrait of the ancestor of all living things has been generated by scientists who say that the likeness sheds considerable light on the mystery of how life first emerged on Earth.This venerable ancestor was a single-cell, bacterium-like organism. But it has a grand name, or at least an acronym. It is known as Luca, the Last Universal Common Ancestor, and is estimated to have lived some four billion years ago, when Earth was a mere 560 million years old.http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/sci

Democrats just had 8 years in Whitehouse, & all we hear is how they will fix problems?What are Democrats smoking? They just had 8 long years in control of our Government and to listen to these same democrats today you would think the Republicans held the Whitehouse. They talk about all the problems in this nation and have the nerve to ignore their failures?All they do is complain about the terrible conditions of our nation's poverty, our loss of jobs, the division between races, etc. etc..... and these fools have created it!They want four more years to fix what they have created but their fix is MORE OF THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Fool us once, shame on you.... fool us a thousand times, we are total idiots!Anyone who votes for these scandal ridden Democrats is beyond mindless.**---Posted Originally by FROMWITHIN**

I was posting on another forum and this topic sort of came-up and I found it so compelling I decided to create my own debate. Some of you will write me off as another tinfoil hat-wearing Conspiracy nut, but I have to share this with you.At one time the Government DID plan to create androids so as to perform all the menial labor and to slowly fade us out, as the androids or robots can be easily programmed and told what to do and counted on to follow orders and not engage in any sort of civil disobedience that may unsettle the New World Order.Alas, they found....robots and androids are expensive. So they did the next best thing: programmed US to become androids. And it is working, as you can see all these dipshits walking aorund with their smart phones; texting; texting while driving; addicted to social media; and now it's Pokemon Go which is just giving Uncle more information on our whereabouts, while releasing mind-control microwaves into our brains so as to make us more submissive.Psychologists have discovered with brain imaging devices that when a typical person hears that little beep or chime telling them they have a new message on their phones that they actually get a small jolt of dopamine or serotonin. These are two of the "feel good" neuro-transmitter chemicals in our brains.In other words: they are hopelessly addicted to their electronic social media.Causing obedience and addiction are the first two steps in mind control.Laugh all you want.It's happening, and has been since post 9/11 protesters and Truthers who posed a Threat to the agenda of the New World Order.You are becoming reprogrammed.A part of the Sheeple World Order!Get out now, while you still can!SS

I suppose its none of my biz, but I'm a curious bastard. So I was wondering if anybody knew what the hell happened to Outlaw. (who I always thought was also Hellno, but could be wrong on this.)He was posting like crazy for most of the summer and then he totally disappeared a couple of weeks ago. I noticed right before he split--or was banned--there was some banter between him and some other memeber about hacking accounts? Or passwords? Some weird shit like that, but I couldn't follow it.So anybody know the scoop? Maybe he was Andy banned him for hacking? I sort of miss his ranting around here, and his easy-to-shoot down debates. LOLThanks for your time.SS