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I noticed the icon for this debate was the "politics" icon. In what way is this at all related to politics?

Stephen Fry is a broad-jawed, sweater-vest wearing, nerdy porker with a semi-talent for acting. Hugh Laurie, on the other hand, is a thin, handsome, charmingly affable leading man with a tremendous talent for acting. You tell me.

I will say that Stephen Fry has his moments...but this debate is like Joe Pesci vs. Robert De Niro or Al Pacino. Sure, Pesci's a great actor who's had a few big successes, but he's no De Niro or Pacino.

I'd say you can be afraid of death's manifestation, and still be unafraid of death as a concept or state. You can surely be unafraid of death, yet fearful of certain fatal situations, i.e. helplessness to aide a family member, buried alive, drowning. I, for one, would be TERRIFIED to be buried alive. I don't know how I would handle myself; likely I would go insane. But I can also say that I'm not afraid of death itself.

I agree with you in that the USA doesn't stand a chance against Russia or China...though Russia and China don't stand a chance against us either. Once the first nuke is dropped, everyone is fucked.

What genre? For traditional, I'd say Gene Krupa. Jazz? Roy Haynes, hands-down. And as for rock drumming, nobody busted guts like John Bonham. He was a God of rock-and-roll drumming, and every other rock drummer on the planet (including Neil Peart) should be bowing to him before they sleep at night.

Banjos are awesome and gnomes are weird little garden knick knacks with no purpose. Also...about how high were you fellows wile discussing this? lol

Pirates have gusto and fighting spirit, as well as experience fighting both with fists, swords and pistols. They are also much awesomer.

You sound like your childhood was magical! So very Norman Rockwell. My childhood was the opposite, which is why I love real trees now; when I was a kid, my mom would string up garland in the shape of a Christmas tree on the wall. It was very disappointing because all my friends had real trees. When I was finally old enough to buy my own tree at 20, when I came back from Vietnam, I bought an 8 ft tree that barely fit into my tiny apartment...I haven't settled for anything less since!

It's the eyes that do it for me. *

That's simply untrue. *

Perfectly put, sir. It seems that I'm the only one my age who plays this work of art....fantastic.

Is that why Bush said and did all the crazy shit he said and did? To be original? I am along with the rest of the sane people in realizing that 9/11 was a terrorist attack by al-Qaeda. What's your argument for Bush?

Whether we're talking about God, omniscience, or what have you, we can't hope to understand it. If such a being does exist, we can't possibly comprehend how they live or how they operate, function, etc. It's a mystery.

He certainly hasn't been all we liberals expected him to be, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him horrible. Bush was horrible...so was Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, and several others. But Obama isn't horrible.

Fox News absolutely is right-winged. They basically report on whatever the GOP asks them do report on, and how they ask them to do so.

Michele Bachmann has quite a few issues, the least of which is her complete insanity. She was a poor addition to the House, and she'd be 1000x worse in the White House.

George Bush continued the trend of the past 30 years of GOP leaders plunging this country into turmoil. He was not even a good president, let alone one of our greatest presidents. He was a stupid idiot who did the bidding of Mr. Dick Cheney for 8 straight years. It's absurd to think of him as a great man.

I agree. First of all, it's a little bit creepy, that weird voice telling you everything about your life. Secondly, it's almost eliminating the need for human thought. We just say something, and immediately the computer thinks for us and gives us the answer. We don't even have to put our thoughts into the computer, we just speak them and their wish is our command. It's scary.

Definitely. Then I can keep my great AT&T;service and get that cutie-pie T-Mobile girl in the advertisements.

Photography is art. Photo editing, I don't believe is an art. The art of photography is in its simplicity, and in the artist's ability to capture something with just a snap of a lens. The art is in the angles, the background and the subject matter, not the editing stages (if there are any). Many people belittle photography as an art form, citing the fact that yes, any schmuck can pick up a camera and take a picture. But, growing up around my mother who is a professional photographer, I can say that if the viewer understands what they're looking at, and has the ability to appreciate minimalism, then yes photography is absolutely art.

This site is a perfect example of what computers and especially the internet was designed for. Bringing people together in an intelligent, meaningful and productive way.

I haven't heard a peep out of him...no amount of George Bush is the right amount of George Bush...so sure, it has!

Are you joking? None of the protesters are being paid by socialists to "take over"...that is a seriously paranoid attitude.

I prefer a realistic war game, which COD offers me. Halo is too futuristic and strange.

It is...but that won't stop me from thoroughly enjoying her upcoming Playboy cover!

I love chocolate any time of the year, hands-down...Kit-Kat bar? Heaven.

He's a big fan of Johnny Cash! You can definitely hear it in his voice, and I always let him know he should make sure to find his own voice if he wants to make it big. But OK, that would be cool.

Why just women? Why not folks in general? In general, I think making a family is more important than making a career. Or just being happy, in general. After being drafted and returning home from Vietnam, I spent six years wandering around, extremely happy. Then I worked towards a family, and then a career.

He's 15 years old, turning 16 very soon. I'll tell him you said so!

Here is the link...he just recorded it, and I just created this Youtube account to play it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgW7y5Qd7Kk

Let me talk to him, see if he can send me a recorded version. Then you can hear it in all its glory :P

I must, however disagree with this particular statement. That happened years ago. If every country was held responsible for generations after they did something wrong...well basically every country in the world would be ostracized, particularly the US, Germany, England and Italy.

Besides, us being the rude and boisterous Americans we are, if the rest of the world froze us out, we would likely just nuke 'em.

I hate to agree with Axmeister, my British nemesis :P but it was, in fact, illegal. The colonists were rebelling against British authority, and technically what the Americans were doing qualified as treason. By drawing up and signing the Declaration, they were denouncing the King, Parliament and England as a whole.

I have a vicious hatred for pretzels. They're much too salty, they feel strange in my teeth, they taste like manufactured hell.

Honestly, man? Fox is the most unreliable news source out there...I'd say the BBC is the most reliable network mentioned.

Honestly, removing it would just create a huge problem and become a much bigger hassle than if we just let it be.

I would do a number of things.

1. Give 500 million if it to the government in lieu of income tax, to try and boost the economy.

2. Give 100 million to various charities, particularly ones devoted to curing cancer and heart disease.

3. Give 200 million to NASA and their space exploration program.

4. Give 100 million to those trying to solve our climate problems.

5. Spend 30 million dollars on three mansions across the world; in Sicily, Northern California and Newfoundland and a two-floor high-class apartment in midtown Manhattan.

6. Distribute 50 million dollars evenly in my will to my friends and family.

7. With the remaining 10 million I would buy beautiful artwork and musical instruments, and travel the world.

Just watch "When Harry Met Sally" *

Both are horrible, horrible corporations that stuff human growth hormones into our unsuspecting, ignorant middle class and our poor, can't-afford-better lower class. I can't stand the fact that anyone would debate over which coronary-inducing, artery-clogging, money-grubbing superpower is "better". It's like arguing "who was better Satan or Hades?"

No one will take it seriously, I don't think.

The Tea Party may have a "good cause" - personally, I don't think they do, but hey - but their supporters are violent, mean-spirited people, and their means of getting what they want are outdated and barbaric.

HAHA dude!! I'm not racist against anyone. I'm just ribbing Joey...is posts are always funny and silly and I figure hey who posts like that unless they're totally high? I didn't know he was Hispanic...this debate got blown out of proportion.

"USA was just a bothersome colony"

If the USA was just a burden to the British, why did you fight so hard, spend so much money and lose so many men over what was just a "bothersome colony"?

"I could count the many pirates who joined the rebellion [as allies]"

I don't think that pirates can be fairly compared to trained German killers. Nice choice, by the way...they sure fucked you guys over at Trenton when they woke up to find themselves surrounded by Washington's troops.

"You're including colonies as allies?"

The Indians played a huge role in the Revolutionary War and beforehand in the colonizing of America. They were a strong guerrilla force, no matter their size.

Sure, everyone makes mistakes. Like spelling "embarrassing" the way you did. But the British were so unorganized during the Revolutionary War, especially for a military that boasted such precision and skill.

Really? You lumped Tupac with Da Vinci and Jesus? That's fucking awesome. Personally I'd say Hemingway. I never read a greater story than the Old Man and the Sea. He was a wonderful human being and a fantastic mind. Him or Mark Twain.

Absolutely. It has all the makings of a revolution. It's got passion, a really fucking good cause and support. It's only gonna get bigger.

Hate to break it to you man, but the English have their share of fat fucks too.

I don't see France banning Catholic cross pendants, Jewish yarmulkes or any other kind of religious symbols. The reason that people want to ban them is because Islam scares them, for whatever reason. They are afraid that Muslims are going to take over the world and enlist everybody into Jihad, which is of course ridiculous. It's people's own idiotic fear of those who differ from them that leads them to do stupid things like banning a religious symbol.

You still lost your most prized possession; a brand new world ripe for the ravaging. Don't act as though you didn't have allies, too. What about the Hessians? And the Indians who fought brutally against the colonists by implementing excessively violent guerrilla warfare? Also, France didn't really come into play until the Battle of Saratoga in 77. You guys made the most mistakes I think you could have made in that war.

That's true, I haven't been in school since 1971, and my experience was horrible; brainwashing, controlling adults, etc. But my kids and grandkids have since been to school, public school, and their minds HAVE been allowed to "operate unfettered by adult brainwashing". Sure, you may say kids are stupid, and they may not have a firm understanding of politics, but they sure do know how to treat people right, and they sure do know about human rights as a whole, which transfers very easily to politics.

If I had a nation, it would imprison those who couldn't use the correct form of "its".

No, sir. Not any more than private schools are making stuck-up, elitist, right-wing nutjobs. Public schools, unlike private schools, encourage independent thought and personal opinions without the presence of adult persuasion or bias. The reason that kids who go to public school tend to be left-leaning is because they know what's right, and when their minds are allowed to operate unfettered by adult brainwashing, they form their own opinions. The fact that their opinions fit neatly into the liberal frame of mind is because young kids have very stable feelings about what is right in the political world.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Call me crazy, but is an iPad not just an enlarged version of an iPod Touch? Therefore, would a miniature version of an iPad not just be an iPod Touch??? COME ON, UNIVERSE! MAKE SOME SENSE ONCE IN AWHILE!

Agreed. As an older man with high blood pressure, sodium is a killer. Turkey is healthy and twice as delicious!

Yeah, and so does learning how to spell "benefits" and learning the correct use of "it's" and "its".

I think that what Che and Castro did was the right thing; even though their government didn't become everything they dreamed of immediately, it did become better, there's no doubt. Remember, it's always darkest before the dawn.

Agreed. I've loved baseball since I was just a kid. I grew up with Mickey Mantle and his Yankees, and I'll never forget the countless games my father took me to.

I wouldn't say "responsibility". I would say, maybe, a person's own business and no one else's. Then yeah.

Wow. You must feel pretty stupid after putting so much effort into that argument just to get downvoted.

You know who fucked everyone in Europe before England and Sealand? The Romans...so I will say Italy.

You fucked the world, but then guess what...you were fucked too. By whom, you may ask? A-FUCKING-MERICA!

Even though Bill Gates and Microsoft pioneered the world of computers, Steve Jobs was arguably the biggest innovator of modern-day technology. He took the basic idea and technology of what Microsoft was trying to do and added a personal touch with Apple. Despite creating new technology like the iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc, he'll most likely be remembered for his earlier contributions to the world of computers.

Why am I not your ally yet??? This is fantastically interesting. But, I don't believe that such a thing could be accomplished without spiritual consequences. Sure, the transferring of huge amounts of data between machines is easy; machines have no emotion, personality or soul. However, I believe that if a person's entire personality - like you said, all their traits, quirks, faults, talents, etc - were transferred from one bodily vessel to another, the new life form couldn't be considered human. It has to be considered life, of course, because of the basic life functions I'm assuming it possesses, being a human body...but it can't be considered another person.

Because, while this is no doubt something to come in the future, whether far or near, it won't work on the spiritual level. Little to nothing is known about a person's soul as far as science is concerned, and as far as religion and spirituality are concerned, thousands of conflicting beliefs yield no true information. But, I don't believe that a person's soul or spirit can be effectively transferred to another body; they can even be the same life-like, energetic, fantastic person they were before, but there will be something a little off about them. A missing twinkle in their eye, a seeming emptiness to what has to be superficial emotion...a soul cannot be replicated. It just can't be done.

James Carville, the Ragin' Cajun is my personal superhero...

Peaceful protest is rarely effective. That's why it can only be used on a small scale, for things that don't really matter. Unless someone is willing to fight and be arrested or possible killed for a cause, then it obviously doesn't matter much to them.

I agree. With mild protests, peace may be the answer. But with something big, something that may become revolutionary, it's necessary to be violent and scare the shit out of people.

Star Trek is the greatest fantasy/sci-fi series/epic ever to grace the screen. Hands down.

DAVID! I thought for sure you had disappeared! Hello!

Agreed. And let's be honest here. People who fly the rebel flag on their cars or their houses or whatever are not just showing pride for their Southern roots. It's become much more; a symbol of racism and hatred, one that I can only imagine is offensive to those whose ancestors were enslaved, beaten and killed. I know for a fact that most Northerners are offended by it; we fought a war against slavery, won that war, and people who fly the rebel flag are saying "Ha, we STILL don't give a shit about your freedoms for everyone." The rebel flag indicates a person who can't accept the way things are and has to return to his hateful ways.

Neither...Jake LaMotta would kick the shit out of both of them.

Obviously, everyone has some sense of pride, which is good and right. But to be a show off, to be vain, to look down on others? That's not right.

Then I absolutely have a problem with police protocol. All these images can't help but stir up memories of Kent State, Attica and the TSP Riot...

The way the cops are constraining and arresting people, shoving their faces on the ground...that is police brutality. Look, I was a young man in the 60s and 70s, and saw much worse, but to be honest, this protest reminds me of the old days, which ain't a good sign.

Sure, people need to be respectful and kind to one another, but etiquette has certain connotations that are, I must agree, pretentious.

Yeah, this is no good. You've just got to tell him, no matter how cute a sticky note may seem.

Look at the women in picture four. Now, watch this video and skip to 0:23. You can see when that photo was taken, after they were senselessly maced by the police. No sign of actual abuse, huh? Watch the video...

Peaceful Female Protesters Maced

This is a tough question, because there are two kinds of computers: personal computers and business/super computers. Young hipsters and kids like their Apple computers because they're fancy-looking and make it easy to do things like edit photos, make movies and change their computer's settings. But Microsoft computers were, firstly, the original computer, and were pioneers in the computer fad of the 21st century. Also, like Joe said, Microsoft creates all the scientific computers, the super computers...can you imagine Dave using HAL-9000 to open up Photobooth to check his hair while he's rearranging files? NO!! Dave wants a real computer, not a thin, airy piece of junk.

I think gays can get married...I think people who are incapable of spelling "married" or using apostrophes shouldn't marry and shouldn't breed.

That's a gross generalization, Ax. Saying that no American or British children would be able to do this is simply not true. With enough practice, a child from any country can do this.

I don't think the folks who watch Fox News are the same people who watch the Simpsons. I watch the Simpsons and Family Guy religiously, but Fox News makes me want to throw up from laughing so hard at their constant stream of bullshit.

You're right, criminals won't be going to a better place. Obviously these people won't get second chances, and rightly so. I'm just saying, it's uncivilized not to grant someone a dying wish as simple as a meal.

OK, I used that style of debate. What's your point?*

My platform is world peace. Sure, it sounds corny. But if you don't agree with me, fuck you. That's how peaceful I am.

Look, obviously yoga was a religious thing in the days of old, but nowadays a lot of people practice yoga. Think about it; pretentious rich people, Hollywood glitterati, hippies, politicians, football players, actors...the list goes on and on. It's become an exercise and a way of calming the mind rather than a way for the user to connect with some kind of God.

Exactly. This is exactly what I wanted to say. Thank you.

Sure, they did a horrible thing. But, firstly, everybody deserves a last meal, one last time where they get to indulge in their very favorite dish before they go to a better place.

More importantly, everyone deserves a second chance. When I was 18, I was pulled over by the police for drinking and driving. An officer walked up to the car to arrest me, and I just broke down crying; I told him I was a kid, I'd never done a thing wrong in my life, I'd never be able to face my parents, yada yada yada. He said to me "OK, kid, park your car and go home, I'll let you off this time." Then he said to me "Everybody deserves a second chance".

Ironically, I was drafted to fight in Vietnam a week later, but the point is, he gave me a second chance.

And if the government is unwilling to give a second chance, (which in this case might be the right call) the least they can do is let someone about to die have a damn meal.

I agree. But the debate here isn't over imperialism, it's over homosexuals in the military. And when they join up in the military, they obviously believe in such imperialism. That's all that matters at this point.

And yes, I have read Orwell. 1984 is arguably my all-time favorite book, and his messages are timeless.

OK, you're right. But in the eyes of the people fighting it, it's patriotism, and we're fighting for freedom. That's the only way the military can justify war. And as long as we're gonna kill for our "freedom" anyway, why not let homosexuals in on it too?

A patriot is someone who supports and defends their nation's freedom. In most American military campaigns in the past, war has been fought for our freedom.

I grew up around smokers; both my parents smoked - my father still does - and my older brother smoked heavily until he was killed in Vietnam. They say you're more likely to smoke if your parents smoke, and it's true; I've been smoking on and off, trying to quit and failing over and over since I was about 16. It's been horrible, and, even though I smoked through having kids, I never, ever smoked around them.

We don't need a law to prohibit parents smoking in front of their kids, because, like Pyggy said, enforcing this law wouldn't be easy. We just need to try to inform and educate parents so that they don't make mistakes like that, and so that their child grows up in a healthy environment.

Openly serving in the military should be a right; if you want to fight for your country, so be it. It doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is, you're a patriot and that's a blessing.

Honestly, once Netflix introduced instant watch, I stopped using the DVD mailing service. Whatever isn't on instant queue I just walk on down to the video store and buy for 2 bucks.

Look, there is only one thing that matters here, whether he actually did it or not: if there is any doubt whatsoever in anyone's mind, this man should live. Innocent until proven guilty is the cornerstone of our judicial system, and if we're just killing people that we think killed a cop...I mean, where does that leave us? It's bad enough that we imprison thousands upon thousands of innocent men and women every year, but now we're killing people who might be innocent? Not OK.

I guess flooding the world because Noah wouldn't serve him is more fucked up than burning and torturing people for all of eternity in an endless fiery pit?

The U.S. would be Donny Trump; constantly bitching, super rich and unwilling to share

The U.K. would be...well...all British folks: stuck up, whether on the outside or secretly

France would be Sarkozy; fucking everything in sight then laughing it off

Italy would be Berlusconi; also fucking everything in sight, then paying the mafia to keep it under raps.

Germany would be Bill Buckner; just trying to make everyone forget that one HUGE mistake...

Ireland would be Rip Torn; drink, drink, drink, drunk, get arrested for drunk driving monthly

Canada would be Joe Biden; totally clueless, endlessly nice, and generally cuddly.

Russia would be Samuel L. Jackson; a nice enough dude, but you don't want to fuck with him.

Australia would be Bill Murray; funny man, but very reclusive, stays out of everyone's business

and finally Sweden would be Daniel Radcliffe; thinks he's sooooo fucking special because every single chick from his country is drop-dead sexy

Joey.......so weird.....that's why we love you, though.


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