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Blacks want vengance-not justice, ''OR'' apart from free tvs, do they know what they want?
When the black community say they want justice for the death of Floyd, what exactly do they mean, and can they define the type of justice to which they refer?
The crazy cop who allegedly killed the suspected criminal has been arrested and is being processed through the country's judicial system. What more do they want?
The black rioters and looters have turned into a frenzied lynch mob of murderous criminals who are intent on causing further death and destruction on the streets of American cities and indeed other cities worldwide.
The blacks have graphically illustrated the necessity of reintroducing an enhanced form of segregation as it is clear that they are totally incapable of living in a society which is predominately white.
I'm glad you designated them "black rioters and looters", certainly not the black, white, brown, yellow, and red "PROTESTERS". They are a totally different group after totally different things, with a totally different attitude!
Your second paragraph is disgusting and you should realize that the "predominately white" society will, in likely another decade, become a predominately black, white, and brown society, in that order. There is already a group of whites that are "totally incapable of living in" that society. Will we need SEGREGATION for THEM?? ;-p
The blacks cannot define what they mean by justice because they haven't the remotest idea what they want.
The crazy cop is behind bars awaiting trial.
This is the the type of justice which is standard throughout the western world.
Do these blacks want to change the legal processes and if so, how?
That was a rhetorical question as they appear to lack the intelligence to organise a Sunday School picnic never mind formulating and implementing an alternative judicial system.
Mindless rioting and criminal looting is the standard mindet of the average black person.
More than just justice in this one instance, they want an end to the pattern that they see of bias in the entire system.
Severely limiting these types of restraint holds, less military-style policing, better training around implicit bias and de-escalation techniques, non-lethal weapons and tactics, more use of body-cams, better civilian input/oversight, better funding of programs that prevent crime - after-school activities, mental-health services, etc.; reduced incentives to be "tough-on-crime" (private prisons); fewer laws against non-violent crimes (weed use, etc.); fewer discrepancies in prosecutions, sentencing, etc.
I think they may be protesting for a while...
It is not that black people don't want these things, or can't organize, it is that a democratic-republic often does a poor job of representing the interests of minorities.
Applicants for posts of seniority in any private concern or government department are normally filled on the basis of merit and by those with the relevant qualifications.
As previously pointed out, generally speaking blacks have an inborn aversion to the disciplines of formal education.
This racial characteristic leads to fewer blacks being appointed to executive posts due to their lack of verifiable competency, i.e., a diploma or university degree, to perform any given function.
Once positions are filled simply to meet the political agenda of the 'justice warrior brigade then we are placing ourselves on the slippery slope to social and economic disaster.
Would anyone feel safe flying in an aircraft piloted by someone who was appointed on the basis of their ethnic background as opposed to his/her flying abilities and possessing verifiable documented confirmation of their qualifications to do so?
Blacks have turned into a terrorist group of anti-American urban guerrillas who are intent on destruction, theft and murder.
and a white applicant with a criminal record is more likely to receive an interview call-back than a similar black applicant without any criminal background.
Except that potential employers will hire someone they think is white over someone they think is black even when given the same résumés.
There are a lot of black owners and Democrats in hiring positions doing that exact thing. If they hired them, that would theoretically fix your problem, but they don't. What, you thought Republicans were running these big cities where blacks live? Dude!
and, as we've already discussed, the entire criminal justice system, etc.
Amazing logic seeing most judges and mayors in cities with black populations are Democrats.
Other ethnic groups such as Asians and whites prosper and, in the main, abide by the law of the land.
This begs the question, why is it invariably the blacks who are the ones who wreck and ruin great areas of our cities and have this persecution complex?
For instance, the law abiding Chinese work hard and generally speaking go quietly about their daily routines in a businesslike manner.
WHY CAN'T BLACKS DO THE SAME?
While opposed by the native Americans white settlers persevered and pioneered most of what is now the United States of America turning it into the greatest nation on earth.
Blacks seem to be gripped with the sole intention of murder and mayhem as a means of turning the United States into an Africian third world country.
As far as I know, Asians are not classified as being of the white race and as I have included all those of Asian descent to be hard working, law abiding citizens of their adopted countries your accusation has been rubbished.
Chinese, Filipinos, South Koreans, Japanese to mention but a few of those from Asian countries all contribute positively and equally to, if not better than the whites, wherever they settle.
Only a ravening lunatic could interpret my attitude as that of ''a white supremacist''.
SUCH PITIFUL RHETORIC CAN USUALLY BE ATTRIBUTED TO BLACK RACIST LOSERS WHOSE NEVER ENDING QUEST FOR WHITE SUPREMACISTS DRIVES THEM TO SEEING THEIR HOUSE SURROUNDED BY K.K.K., THUGS WITH BURNING TORCHES 24-7-365..
America will always be encumbered with people like you who are always ready to rake the ashes of racism for the slightest reason or for no reason at all.
Blacks, not Asians or whites, enjoy nothing more than a good evening of recreational rioting and looting..
If you insist on avoiding the contents of his post to focus on the content of his character, that negative character will feel justified in maintaining the beliefs laid out in his post
While the black community commits a disproportionate amount of crime, the precent of black people who are violent criminals is the extreme minority within the overall minority group. Though black males account for around 50% of murder, it is still incredibly unlikely that any given black male you meet is a murderer. Thus it is a completely irrational misunderstanding of statistics to apply anything about black statistics to any given black person.
The issues you outline are not absent from other groups. There are white and other racial subcultures that have persistent generational poverty, crime, and substance abuse. But we don't tend to categorize those groups for close analysis the way we do race. There are cultural characteristics passed from generation to generation that inhibit the kind of prosperity you seem to believe depends on race.
Black people who were not raised with (or independently rise above) negative cultural characteristics tend to do relatively well. White people who are raised with negative cultural characteristics (or independently adopt them) tend to do relatively well. This means you are incorrectly attributing to race, that which is more relevant to culture. Historically, this mis-attribution has served to preserve negative cultural characteristics.
Let's pretend for a moment that you are correct in attributing negative outcomes to race. Since these issues that are more prevalent in the black community are yet not an issue for the majority of the black community, the most appropriate racist solution would be to encourage interracial relationships. Thus would dilute and diffuse the negative traits that have such an outsized impact on overall society. This solution would be valid if the facts that racists rely on were actually attributable to race. Funny enough though, racists oppose interracial relations. They prefer historically failed and atrocious solutions like segregation, genocide, or sterilization. This is because the racist position isn't derived from facts, but rather from an emotional aversion to outsiders and differences.
As it is though, interracial relations needn't be encouraged nor opposed since race isn't the operative factor in the issues you present.
The black man is a product of the Democratic Party and its attempt to create a second class citizenry to keep it in power with bribes of no consequence but just enough that they don't turn on and kill the Democrats in power. The New Deal made blacks dependent on white Democrats, so blacks can never leave. The Democrats own an entire race of people who cannot escape, sadly.
It's not a fantasy, it's statistics. But statistics can't tell you anything about an individual. That's the racists fallacy. You have adopted the same fallacy, but with the goal of rejecting the statistics.
Close to half of all murders are perpetrated by black men. Also, approximately half of all murders victims are black. Most violence happens within ones race, not between races. If you wish to avoid these facts, then you are simply avoiding the path to solutions. Solutions, by the way, would disproportionately benefit black people. Are you against benefiting black people? I know your not, but if you adopt the racists fallacy, you'll get racist outcomes. Don't do that.
Lemme see.. We got lies.. We got damned lies.. And, we got statistics. Have you seen M's statistics? He's got 'em.
Look.. You could only BELIEVE blacks commit more crime, if you believe that black people are inherently less moral than white folks. That's a racist supposition.
That's not my supposition. The stats don't indicate that there is anything inherent in black people that leads to crime disparity. But the crime disparity is real. Crime statistics are consistent across organizations on this matter, as are CDC statistics that measure victimization.
If you believe that statistical disparity can only imply inherent racial qualities, then you are making the same false assumption as the racist. Rather than throwing out the facts of the matter, you should throw out the false assumption.
There's a strong correlation between poverty and crime. I don't think these issues are as separate as you think. I would argue that the effects of generational poverty, which can be seen across races, explain much more of the current problem than notions of current racism.
Look.. You could only BELIEVE blacks commit more crime, if you believe that black people are inherently less moral than white folks. That's a racist supposition.
They create more crime because people in poverty commit more crime. They are in poverty because Democrats used the welfare system as an enticing weapon to make sure blacks had no incentive to make more money. They have to constantly work themselves to death to maintain a constant minority serf class to help them win elections by promising just a smidegen more on that welfare check and that food stamp card. They realized the New Deal was a great deal, not for blacks, but for them.
Staying on that same idea, this is why the Democrats kept promising prison reform while not delivering, despite Trump proving that all they would have had to have done was snap their fingers. But they never did it because the promise of doing it was enough to garner votes and keep blacks down trodden and angry all at the same time.
You say the most ridiculously stupid things. You have to begin with the supposition that crime is race related in order to even take race related crime statistics in the first place!! It is classic circular reasoning, like beginning with the premise that Nazis are more cultured than blacks and then using correlations implied by statistics to present a false cause/effect relationship.
The fact of the matter is that criminologists have been studying crime statistics for longer than you have been alive, and they illustrated long ago that there is a link between poverty and crime. But because you do not want to acknowledge that proven correlation, you instead point to racial statistics without informing anybody beforehand that blacks and minorities have much greater rates of poverty than whites. Hence you, and indeed the entire American right wing, are deliberately misleading people with the false assumption that race and crime are related.
Whoever told you that your claim is fantasy is absolutely correct.
You have to begin with the supposition that crime is race related in order to even take race related crime statistics in the first place!
That's as far as I got. Once I saw that your argument premises on the absurdity that statistics necessarily assumes there is a causal relationship between correlates, I remembered that your a fucking moron not fit to comment on the dirt on my shoes.
your argument premises on the absurdity that statistics necessarily assumes there is a causal relationship between correlates
Clearly it does not. Show me where, dickhead. What I said is that you have to begin with the assumption that crime is race related in order to research those statistics. You have to begin with the assumption that there is a correlation between race and crime, because otherwise there is no point researching the statistics. It's like researching who commits more crime: blonde-haired or black-haired people. Blue-eyed or brown-eyed people? Who commits more crime between these groups? You have no fucking idea, do you? And the reason is because nobody has assumed these traits have any correlation with crime.
Ice cream consumption positively correlated to murder rate. Strongly, actually. But they are not actually related.
I am very interested in discussing the correlation between crime and poverty and how this impacts people of different races. But I'm not interested in discussing it with someone as simultaneously stupid and arrogant as yourself.
The days of me educating you on basic concepts, only to see 0 development, are long over
Ice cream consumption positively correlated to murder rate.
Nobody researched those statistics, halfwit. Learn how to use Google properly. The effects of weather on crime were researched, the seasonal sales of ice cream were researched, and somebody glued those statistics together. Nobody set out to discover whether ice cream sales have any correlation to crime, which makes your analogy false and misleading.
I am very interested in discussing the correlation between crime and poverty
If that were true then the correlation between crime and poverty would have been what you mentioned, not the correlation between crime and race.
The days of me educating you on basic concepts
Oh shut your mouth you boring troll. You're an idiot.
Statistics fall into a category of academic research known as quantitative analysis. As with all forms of academic research, one begins with a hypothesis.
But you would know nothing about academic research, which makes it all the more ironic when you make claims about "educating" me.
No statistic on Earth says that blacks commit a "disproportionate" amount of crime. Disproportionate to what? And is that paralleled in all other countries?
It seems like no matter what, some will never be happy; it will never be enough. The left's goal is to perpetuate and compound the victim mentality among minorities and act as their Savior so they will vote for them. 60 plus years of Democratic policies have done little to help the minority community. Maybe they will wake up one day.
As the violent hordes of mixed race rioters and looters blaze across the cities of America and Europe causing death and destruction while chanting ''Justice for Floyd'' they have forgotten to spell out to which version of justice they are referring.
The crazy cop Derek Chauvin is in police custody charged with 2nd degree murder and the other three suspects have been formally charged with with aiding and abetting 2nd degree murder.
What exactly do the rioting FILTH want?
Do the FILTH know what they want.
The demonstrations have turned into and mish-mash* of destructive recreational rioting- cum- lucrative looting and smug virtue signalling.
''Did you see me on television last night turning over a police car with my right hand while holding a stolen television under my left arm'' and shouting justice for Floyd?
60 plus years of Democratic policies have done little to help the minority community.
Hello High:
It's true.. But, up until that time, we did a LOT:
World War II and Civil Rights
Rosa Parks
Little Rock Nine
Civil Rights Act of 1957
Woolworth’s Lunch Counter
Freedom Riders
March on Washington
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Bloody Sunday
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Civil Rights Leaders Assassinated
Fair Housing Act of 1968
We FIGURED that it was enough.. And, it woulda been, had the right wing not blocked us every step of the way.. You know, like you're STILL doing suppressing the black vote..
Oh, did I mention the cops lynching unarmed black people?? DUDE!
We FIGURED that it was enough.. And, it woulda been, had the right wing not blocked us every step of the way..
I'd ask for examples, but I know you won't because you never give them, butI'll give you an example. Joe Biden 1994 crime bill would be called white supremacy if it wasn't a Democrat. Let's look at a left wing source.
Joe Biden’s Role in ’90s Crime Law Could Haunt Any Presidential Bid
The effort, which defined much of his time as committee chairman, culminated in the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, a sweeping, bipartisan bill that touched nearly every aspect of American law enforcement that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.
More than two decades later, that legislation is once again the subject of fierce debate — this time, as a bipartisan coalition of activists and lawmakers seeks to undo the era of mass incarceration they say the 1994 crime bill helped create.
And the sad irony is, you'll still vote for him over the man who passed criminal reform. How could a man be convinced to do that? Brainwashing and programming. That's the only logical conclusion. It's like the wife who's husband beats her, but she refuses to leave him or acknowledge the abuse. The husband has convinced her he loves her and will change, but he never does. He just ups the abuse while she doubles down on staying with him.
You know, like you're STILL doing suppressing the black vote..
How can you suppress the black vote when the only white people where blacks vote are Democrats? And an even better question is how can you suppress the black vote in the first place? Name a person who wanted to vote, but didn't because a Republican in Fredericksburg, Texas stopped them, and explain how they stopped them.
Now that's funny. Rosa Parks, in 1955, had to stand up for herself on a bus due to Jim Crow Laws literally created by the Democratic Party, and you consider that a Democratic Party win....
due to Jim Crow Laws literally created by the Democratic Party, and you consider that a Democratic Party win....
Hello B:
It's been said a jillion times, and it'll be said a jillion times more.. History COUNTS.
In REAL history, the southern Democrats WERE the racists you said they were..
But, then the Civil Rights Act happened which the racist southern Democrats couldn't abide. So they ALL switched parties and became Republicans.. That's where they are today...
If you want my agreement, which you so desperately do, you gotta tell the TRUTH, and you didn't..
Amazing how you've lived for 47 years but only aged 5. What's your secret?
Faith. But, you have none so... I guess you'll never know and will have to slowly watch the sand spill down the vile, knowing that in 50 years, you'll either no longer exist, nor will any of your Nazi comments, or...you'll be in Hell trying to debate me and convince me that that stinch of sulfer is nice once you get used to it, eh buddy?
If you had faith in anything except your own self-interest you wouldn't sit here 24 hours a day telling lies which sound like they came from the mouth of a 5 year old child. Nowhere, in any faith, does it say one must be a liar to gain the grace of God. Quite the opposite, in fact.
you'll be in Hell
Priceless. Yes pal, I'll be in hell. Except I'm not the pathological liar who voted for a rapist, am I?
I propose you stop buying blacks you retarded Nazi idiot.
Cool. I didn't realize I had bought any blacks. Could you show me the receipts of where I purchased some people. That would be super interesting to witness. I'm bored and game, so go ahead. Show me those receipts. No receipts? Awww. There's a shocker.
You literally just asked how we can stop blacks selling blacks to whites as slaves you fucking idiot. Stop buying blacks. Always you try to make the black man into the criminal and the white man into the victim, because you are a brainless racist cunt.
You literally just asked how we can stop blacks selling blacks to whites as slaves you fucking idiot.
Well, what I actually was addressing was Excon's point that if "history counts", how does he calculate blacks selling blacks and having them as slaves caculate into his equation of "history counts". It appears that to the left, history only counts if you can attempt to somehow twist it or use it to attack the right. In this case...it failed. It dropped to the floor like a limp willy during the winter, eh Nom?
Always you try to make the black man into the criminal and the white man into the victim, because you are a brainless racist cunt.
Not actually. The white man was guilty in the George Floyd case, and the white man runs all of these giant leftist cities that the left tells us are targeting minorities and filled with "systematic racism". So why doesn't the Leftist white man screaming about racism ever do anything to fix his own house? We both know why. If you have to let a million blacks die, that's just the price that must be paid for white leftists to maintain power. Isn't that right burrito?
