Can someone oppose abortion without using religion?
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I am Catholic, but do not believe in all their teachings. I am republican but do not believe in all their platforms. I am male and believe it is the woman's right to choose. BUT...none of that impacts my belief on abortion...this is what I believe 1. I do not believe in abortion unless any of the following factors are involved: a. The pregnancy was a result of rape b. The pregnancy is known to be high c. The pregnancy is known to be afflicted with a birth defect (down syndrome, etc.) d. The woman is at risk of losing her own life by completing or trying to complete the gestation period Side: Yes.
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One could advance an argument of implications - economic, innovation, hedonistic utilitarianism, areligious deontology, etc. I think all of these arguments would ultimately be quite flawed and that exceptionally few people ever bother to make them, but nevertheless they could be made. Side: Yes.
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It is said that you cannot refute religion at all because we were created from God himself; which injects his "moral compass". To say, without using religion would be impossible if this was true. How would you respond disprove this claim? (I'm just curious on your input - not really looking to debate this this idea) If you dont want to dive down that rabbit hole, it's cool. Side: Yes.
My strongest objection to this argument is its reliance upon circular reasoning. It assumes the existence of God in order to prove the existence of God. Until the question of God's existence is answered it is equally true that God may either exist or not exist. Therefore, it could just as equally be true that we were not created by God himself and did not gain our morality or other cognition from God. Not only is there no evidence that God imbued us with his morality, I would argue that the sheer diversity of moral attitudes is a contraindication of that claim. The only way in which God could have imbued us with his morality is if God has a fundamentally confused and contradictory morality. And if God's morality is so relative as to constitute all moralities it cannot really be said to be a legitimate morality in any meaningful sense, which further undermines the original claim in question. Furthermore, we can clearly identify biological and psychological processes which explain our moral attitudes. While this is not proof that God did not create these processes, it does weaken the relatively unfounded alternative explanation that morality comes from God for the simple reason that this explanation has less evidence on balance. Side: Yes.
I believe yes... You don't need to get all religious to oppose abortion. I mean I have a religion but I'm not one of those like SUPER religious people. I believe abortion is just wrong and its left at that. No religion or anything... Just thinking its wrong to kill someone... You don't have to be religious to oppose murder do you..? No exactly.. Side: Yes.
Of course they can. Religion is not needed for anything. Well, not for anything useful, that is. I guess it is good for manipulation and oppression and bilking the gullible people out of their earnings and their own free thought and independence. And its good for waging war, as is proven by the fact that millions have been killed in its name. But yeah, one certainly does not need religion for ANY moral cause. Be it opposing abortion, gun control, peace, whatever. We atheists can have--and DO have--good moral values without feeling the need for an invisible fantasy friend that some call God. Just like we can be spiritual without being religious. The two are very different things. Myself, I am Pro Choice. But a I know many Pro Life agnostics and atheists. They simply feel, in their own opinions, that abortion is wrong. The don't need to ask their church or pray to a non-existent sky god to know where they stand morally. And how they think. Or for their ethics. This is because by and large we ares stronger, more independent and thoughtful people than are the religiously-deluded. Side: Yes.
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Abortion is just as much an issue of humanity as it is religious. Would it have been just a religious issue to oppose the holocaust? Of course not! Killing innocent life is inhuman and shows the utter selfish culture we are living in. Democrats in Congress recently voted 177 out of 182 to allow a healthy Baby born alive(from a botched late term abortion) to die! That is where our culture is going as we separate God from our public awareness. Just 15 years earlier, no Democrats supported allowing the Baby to die.(I believe ALL Republicans voted to save the Baby's life.... that would be called humanity) Obviously God is a part of the equation because he sets a moral foundtion for a nation to try and live up to. As we separate God from our land, we see the results of man's selfish moral values. (basically anything goes, if it feels good do it, and if a Baby gets in the way of your fun, abort it) Side: Yes.
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For all the people posting on this argument who say they oppose abortion yet vote for Democrats. When you elect a pro abortion politician, you are indeed supporting abortion and it is laughable to say you oppose it. There are priorities in life. When you say you are not a one issue voter I truly laugh at what you are saying. Issues of innocent life being taken SHOULD BE at the top of your priority when you pull that lever in the voting booth. Tell me for all those who say you are not a one issue voter, would you vote for a KKK member if he supported all the other issues you agee with? What? You say of course not because he is a racist! But when it comes to a politician who supports all abortions right up to birth, you say that one issue is not enough to prevent you from voting for him. Killing innocent life is not as bad as being a racist? THINK! Look within and truly ask yourself if you are all talk and truly could care less about that Baby's right to life. I have absolutely no respect for people who say they are pro life yet vote for politicians who support even late term abortions on demand at any stage for any reason. Who do you think you are kidding? I Know many Catholics who vote for radical pro abortion politicians. Do they think they are fooling God? Yes I know that Republicans are not perfect but at least they have many times tried to stop late term abortions(unless life of mother, etc.) but as always, Democrats stop them. Side: Yes.
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The argument of when a fetus is alive is a complete misdirection perpetrated by religious people. Discussing if the fetus is alive is a red herring. Instead of focusing on whether abortion should be allowed we discuss whether a human is dying. It turns the abortion debate into a moral one instead of a practical one. Side: No.
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