Muhammad Ali was Right to Refuse Army Induction
"On April 28, 1967, boxing champion Muhammad Ali refuses to be inducted into the U.S. Army and is immediately stripped of his heavyweight title. Ali, a Muslim, cited religious reasons for his decision to forgo military service.
Born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr., in Louisville, Kentucky, on January 14, 1942, the future three-time world champ changed his name to Muhammad Ali in 1964 after converting to Islam. He scored a gold medal at the 1960 Olympic Games in Rome and made his professional boxing debut against Tunney Husaker on October 29, 1960, winning the bout in six rounds. On February 25, 1964, he defeated the heavily favored bruiser Sonny Liston in six rounds to become heavyweight champ.
On April 28, 1967, with the United States at war in Vietnam, Ali refused to be inducted into the armed forces, saying “I ain’t got no quarrel with those Vietcong.” On June 20, 1967, Ali was convicted of draft evasion, sentenced to five years in prison, fined $10,000 and banned from boxing for three years. He stayed out of prison as his case was appealed and returned to the ring on October 26, 1970, knocking out Jerry Quarry in Atlanta in the third round. On March 8, 1971, Ali fought Joe Frazier in the “Fight of the Century” and lost after 15 rounds, the first loss of his professional boxing career. On June 28 of that same year, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned his conviction for evading the draft." -History.com
See this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/muhammad-ali-vietnam/485717/
Watch these videos of Ali:
A. http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/muhammad-ali-refuses-army-induction-1967-39593864
B. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd9aIamXjQI
C. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFMyrWlZ68
D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JDM4MY71G4
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Against the Motion
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Muhammad Ali was Right to Refuse Army Induction Hello x: I have a problem criticizing behavior that WAS outlawed at one time, but is NOT outlawed today.. Was smoking dope OK when it was illegal?? It WAS.. Was refusing to serve in the military OK when refusing was illegal? It WAS. excon Side: For the Motion
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I dont know much about Muhammad Ali and I'm not really sure what "forgo" means but I must say I wonder what religious reasons he cited; and I believe it is logical that he was stripped from his title, fined and banned from boxing: what would happen if everyone said oops I cant fight because X. And I think its a good show of strenght from the government: even if you are a celebrity you still gotta obey the law. Although the circumstances were different during WW1 in France, people who refused to fight were executed Side: Against the Motion
The Vietnam war was fought in an effort to curb the apparently unstoppable spread of communism which was rolling out unabated, not only across Asia but also in Eastern Europe. Mistakenly or not the politicians of the day decided that enough was enough and the time had come to try to draw a line in the sand. How easy it is for the armchair politicians to smugly spew out their sanctimonious drivel with the benefit of hindsight. Communism needed to be challenged and it sure wasn't going to be the European powers. This was the decision of the duly elected political leaders of the day and as such any citizen who shirked his/her patriotic duty was/is no more that a self seeking crawling coward. People are not at liberty to cherry pick the directives of their democratically elected governments. Muhammad Ali was an anti American, egotistical boastful coward. For my money George Foreman is the unsung American hero. Side: Against the Motion
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You're a fucking scum sucking shit fucker Antrim, no one should be forced to risk their life for any political agenda. Communist states tend to self destruct anyway so why should america be sticking it's nose in everyones business trying to destabilize their government? It isn't for the greater good at all, both communism and capitalism are crap that only serve to dumb down and oppress the common people at the end of the day. You are a domesticated animal if you are willing to risk your life for those in power, you say that the "superior" people at the top are meant to rule while the common people who are inferior rabble are meant to serve, the willingness to fight and die for the gain of the "elite" puts you into the category of inferior domesticated serf rabble. Side: For the Motion
If yellow bellied filth such as you are not prepared to fight for their country then they forfeit their right to live in the United States and enjoy the freedoms for which others have made the supreme sacrifice to maintain. It's gutless dirtball cyber heroes like you who sit back and get a free ride while letting men and women of real substance fight their battles for them. You're the epitome of the standard chicken livered wimp who feels emboldened whilst in the safety of their own home and hiding behind the anonymity of the web. In a free democratic society everyone has the right to stand up for the principles and hard fought for liberties they enjoy or crawl away and claim to be a conscientious objector and have their declared position honoured. Now, filth, go and crawl under the nearest rock. You can come out when you feel that those who have chosen to participate in upholding their nation's freedoms have eliminated any risk which you perceive to be a threat to your hairdo. In real life, face to face situations sniveling low life 'web wonders like you act like frightened little kittens and smile graciously at those asserting their opinions in case they get a smack on the kisser. AAH IT'S JUST DAWNED ON ME THAT YOU'RE NOM. IF I'D REALIZED EARLIER I WOULDN'T HAVE ANSWERED. BUT WHILE I'M HERE I MUST POINT OUT THAT YOUR HEAD IS STILL FULL OF MAD DOG'S SHIT REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER 'NOM' DE PLUME YOU CHOOSE TO SCRIBBLE UNDER. Side: Against the Motion
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I am against the motion purely because this thread is a red herring designed to obfuscate from the reader the fact that xMathFanx is a political fascist who hates blacks and all other minorities. He uses the xMathFanx account to set up these arguments so he can come in using his other sock accounts (Antrim being the most obvious one) and launch vicious racial and/or personal attacks. Side: Against the Motion
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