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Why are Americans so obsessed with Racism?
America has become consumed with racism and in the process the loony left accusers have made being white an unwritten crime which is punishable by being CANCELLED within the dictates of their own racist CANCEL CULTURE.
I've typically found that the people who are pissed off about others being against racism, are indeed racist. I don't believe every old book, story, movie or song that happens to have racist elements should be removed from society, however I do believe there should be a learning element attached to them. Perhaps once people stop being racist/sexist (if ever that happens) then the learning element can be removed and the entertainment can be taken for what it is but in the meantime when we still have people spitting fire over minor censorship instead of actual...you know...racism....we will need it.
We have now shipped our racism phobia over to the U.K.
Mad Meghan has accused the British Royal family of being
R-A-Y-C-I-S-T despite being welcomed into the Royal fold and enjoying a 'Fairy Tale wedding'.
MAD MEGHAN typifies black Americans and is a good example of the product of the loony-leftist's victimhood generation.
It seems that if there is any aspect of their lives with which blacks are disgruntled they shout;- R-A-Y-C-I-S-M.
Most of the world's other nations are exasperated and aggravated with the endless cries of R-A-C-I-S-M, so why can't the bellyaching blacks shut up and get on with their lives like everyone else?
This poor unfortunate part black, victimized person claimed that some, unnamed person within the Royal Household stated that they wondered how dark the skin of her unborn baby would be.
IF such a comment was made should it be considered as R-A-Y-I-S-T?
It was made clear by both Harry and the poor downtrodden quarter-cast that the alleged comment was not made by The Queen or The Duke of Edinburgh.
So, the part black wife of Harry makes an unsubstantiated allegation about what could have been, and probably was an innocent remark and leaves everyone open to suspicion.
These two pieces of self-serving, over privileged egotistical narcissists dropped the R-A-Y-I-S-T allegation on a 94 year old Queen and her 99 year old husband.
Such lovely people.
These are the sort of filth the U.K., could well do without.
It wasn't that a COMMENT was made about her child's skin tone. It was that CONCERN was expressed about his skin tone and how it reflected poorly on the image of the monarchy. And yes that is textbook racism
Harry is the one substantiating the claim. It's not just her word. It's both of them. And it's about the smallest stretch in the world for me to believe them. The ancient leaders of an entrenched British WASP imperialist monarchy are racist? GASP. No! Couldn't be! Say it ain't so! What an OUTLANDISH suggestion.
Like wtf do you base your incredulity upon aside from the fact that you're racist and stand to benefit politically by downplaying any instance of racism rearing its head in society?
Exactly. They're 90+year old WASP monarchs. Being racist comes with the territory lmao. I have no idea how conservatives are so aghast at this accusation.
It seems that if there is any aspect of their lives with which blacks are disgruntled they shout;- R-A-Y-C-I-S-M.
Hello Antrim:
Aren't you the fellow who calls black people Bongos?? You ARE.. Aren't you the guy who makes fun of black peoples lips? You ARE.. Aren't you the guy who lists accomplishments of white people while saying that black people are too stupid to invent anything? You ARE..
You HATE black people.. You, my friend, are the R-A-Y-C-I-S-T. Why in the hell should anybody listen to a thing you have to say about black people???
You, my dear little Excon, current criminal, who is way off on a standard black-man's/ Bongo tangent.
You have just lambasted black people the world over with your irrational rant.
You're the black enamelled fool who thinks he's Jewish.
It's you who is highlighting that black's contribution to mankind's inventions and discoveries that go to make up the modern world is pretty much zilch.
It's you who is drawing attention to the black man's features which developed as a natural consequence of living in their African environment, just as the white man's facial characteristics evolved by living in a more moderate climate.
IT IS CONVICTED CRIMINAL FILTH LIKE YOU WHO ARE THE TRUE RACISTS.
IT IS CONVICTED CRIMINAL FILTH LIKE YOU WHO ARE THE TRUE RACISTS.
Hello again, Antrim:
Awww... Just when we was starting to be friends, too.
I thought you LIKED being called a white supremacist.. After all, you DO call black people Bongos, and you DO think white people invented everything of value.. You post incessantly about it.. You certainly represent white supremacy thought.. I thought you embraced it.. I thought you were PROUD of being white. No, huh?
So, what happened? Changed your mind?? You're not dumb. You understand the words.. What's the confusion about??
Where is your convincing counter-argument backed up with indisputable evidence that the claims in whichYOU INFERRED that blacks did invent and make life changing inventions/discoveries?
Explain to me, but more importantly, yourself how by quoting facts is racist or represents the condition of so called white supremacy?
Here, once more is a tiny fraction of the inventions and discoveries made by whites throughout history.
The computer.
The internet.
Electricity.
The light bulb.
The telephone.
The radio.
Television.
Radar.
X-rays.
The internal combustion engine.
The diesel engine.
The automobile.
The jet engine.
Space going rockets.
The aeroplane.
Penicillin.
Most life-saving and pain-relieving drugs.
Modern surgical operating techniques including anaesthetists and antiseptics.
High yield farming methods.
THESE ARE BUT A TINY REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF THE CONTRIBUTION WHICH WHITES HAVE MADE TO THE WELFARE OF ALL OF MANKIND.
In addition to the fact that blacks do not feature in any of these outstanding achievements of whites it must be recorded that blacks represent a disproportionate number of violent crimes in relation to their overall percentage of the population.
NOW YOU DUMB-ASS, YOU EXPECT THAT THE CRIME HERE IS QUOTING THE FACTS AND WHITES SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR THE BLACK'S LACK OF INVENTNESS/INNOVATION AND THEIR INBORN PREDISPOSITION TO VIOLENT CRIME, LAZINESS AND AVERSION TO FORMAL EDUCATION.
WAKE YOURSELF UP THERE BOY AND RECOGNISE THE STARK TRUTH WHEN IT HITS YOU UP THE TEETH.
BLACK'S UNDERACHIEMENT AND VIOLENT NATURE DOES NOT DIMISH BY PRETENDING OTHERWISE OR NOT HIGHLIGHTING THEIR WEAKNESSES.
Nor does ''shooting the messenger'' lessen their failure as a race.
It's they, the blacks who SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED AND ASHAMED AT THEIR WOEFUL LACK OF ACHIEVEMENT.
Explain to me, but more importantly, yourself how by quoting facts is racist or represents the condition of so called white supremacy?
Hello again, Antrim:
So, you ARE a white supremacist.. You even list the reasons why.. You believe inventing those things make you better than the people who didn't invent them - especially if those people are black.
One COULD engage you in a pissing contest over which race, and in which century somebody invented something that somebody else didn't, and that somehow makes them a superior being..
I can't get my head around that, so I'm not gonna engage you further.. I'll leave you with one thought, though. Inventing things or not inventing things makes you no better or worse than anyone.
You have totally failed to even address the reasonable challenges which I set you.
Of course I didn't really expect a rational reply from someone like you.
Answer my questions and I'll consider giving you a reply.
In the meantime, for God's sake, if not for your own sake, try really hard to understand that the weak and intellectually challenged don't become strong and intelligent by pretending that they are anything other than what they are.
THE DUMB GUYS IN THE CLASSROOM DON'T BECOME SMARTER BY PRETENDING THE HIGH-ACHIEVERS ARE STUPID.
Everyone would be delighted if blacks would smarten up and start inventing things from which we could all benefit.
We would all be over-the-moon if blacks would cease their criminal ways and knuckle down to the disciplines of education.
BUT SADLY, VERY SADLY WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO.
I know that you are thick as a bucket of champ between two planks but surely even a dim wit like you could understand that elementary principle of life.
and high time it did ship out to the uk. the world is not exasperated and aggravated by the recognition of the colonial racism it has been subjected to. racist white people are. get the fuck over urself m8,
The populations of the nations of your defunct, so called Empire are uniting to saturate the flag you're so proudly displaying in THEIR INDIGENOUS BLOOD in protest against the nation, (that's you load of cunts,) which slaughtered 10s of 1000s of their forefathers before enslaving them.
You are a hypocritical shit-bag who needs to take a long hard look in the mirror before you embark on your sanctimonious preaching about racism.
You big brave fuckers gunned down the peoples of developing nations who only had spears with which to defend themselves and you now have the barefaced audacity to boast about it.
The day of reckoning is still to come for you fucks.
ONCE YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKS WERE FACED WITH A MODERN ARMY SUCH AS THE GERMANS WHO KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF YOU LOT IN TWO WORLD WARS, YOU CALLED ON THE GOOD OLD U.S.A. TO PULL YOU OUT OF YOUR SELF-MADE QUAGMIRE IN WHICH YOU WERE ANNIHILATED .
WHEN UNCLE SAM RESCUED YOU BROKEN DOWN BRITS YOU SHOUTED, AND STILL DO, ''WE WON THE WAR, SUCH A FUCKING YARN.
What's a real laugh is that you think I care about YOUR yarn. Enjoy wasting your breath.
Also:🇬🇧🇬🇧=✓, 🇺🇸🇺🇸=💩💩
Translation: If encouraging toxic stereotypes is the level which we've descended to, then consider the stereotype that we're just plain better than American arseholes like you.
I thought you might need pictures to have it explained.
Some universities have tried to ban whites entering their campuses and ''deny platform' to any speaker/lecturer whose narrative is not anti-white or, where appropriate contain an apology for being white.
Those trying to express a right of centre ideology are regularly man-handled and beaten up.
The quarter-cast stated that it took great will-power to summon up the courage to announce that she has mental health problems.
1) Who gives a tinker's damn about her mental problems?
2) IT TAKES ''GREAT WILL POWER AND COURAGE'' TO CARRY OUT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND ROYAL DUTIES.
3) THESE TWO SHIRKERS RAN AWAY LIKE BLUE BLAZES ONCE THE QUARTER-CAST REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A PRICE TO BE PAID FOR ALL THE GLAMOUR AND GLITZ OF ROYALTY.
4) AS CAN BE SEEN AND HEARD ON ''YOUTUBE'' THE WORLD'S NON-ALIGNED/NEUTRAL MEDIA HAS UNEQUIVITLY CONDEMMED THE TWO TREACHEROUS RENEGADES AND EXPOSED THEIR CONTEMPTABLE SELFISHNESS FOR WHAT IT IS.
The instances of whites being manhandled off university campuses and shouted down when expressing their non-leftist credo has been accurately recorded by a number of totally unrelated origins and available for all to see on YOUTUBE.
Trying to tarnish the source of actual events which does not suit your own particular loony left-wing ideology doesn't detract in any way from the validity of the actual happenings.
You can find videos of literally anything on YouTube that doesn't mean it's comprehensive data showing a statistical trend. It means you can find a handful of anecdotes.
These stories come from the same half a dozen very liberal universities and half the time it's a conservative inviting themselves into campus to do their BS "on the street" propaganda videos and a crowd forms to tell them to fuck off. Sorry you don't like free speech. You're entitled to speak not entitled to have people listen or respect what you're saying. Especially on a private university campus where you have literally zero first amendment claims.
Maybe if you bothered to cite evidence instead of just saying "youtube agrees with me" I'd take your claims more seriously. But citing youtube is like citing Google.
Yeah vaccines cause down syndrome in teens age 16-18.
Google agrees with me
The entire search engine. That's what I'm citing
That would be a stupid thing to say and do. You don't cite the search engine you cite the sources you pull from the search engine. Youtube is a search engine
fake facts that wouldn't be the worst thing if they were true. white folks denied non-whites access to academia, and that legacy is still felt. id prefer a race neutral and diverse academia but the exclusion of whites is the next best option. fair turn and such. of course, this whole WhItEs ArE oPpRrEsSeD bit is nonsense at the outset; even as a bit of reactionary alarmism ur rhetoric falls pitifully short of being compelling to anyone who aint a racist.
Fair turn? Did you deconstruct your individualism along with everything else? What do white students today have to do with white faculty and law makers from years ago?
I'm not claiming whites are an oppressed class, I just find it disgusting that you believe that to be "the next best option". Fucking stupid. I would say it's up there with your "murder children" idea, but at least that's consistent with your vacuum of a foundation.
You do get very upset at people having different opinions , the tragedy for you is you cannot ban him on this post for disagreeing with you , but hey that just means you might have to actually defend your emotional outburst for once ......I’m really rooting for ya tough guy
Jace has a different opinion than me on almost everything. I've always appreciated the way that he arrives at those opinions. But an endorsement of racism as being in a category of best options with non-racism is divergent from other opinions of his which he has previously shown to logically follow from his premises, or at least from his reasonable preferences.
I don't take issue with people who disagree. I never ban for mere disagreement. You and Nom are trolls. Nothing else is necessary to ban either of you on a whim.
Jace has a different opinion than me on almost everything. I've always appreciated the way that he arrives at those opinions. But an endorsement of racism as being in a category of best options with non-racism is divergent from other opinions of his which he has previously shown to logically follow from his premises, or at least from his reasonable preferences.
Well let’s wait and see his defence I think you’re misrepresenting his views , bit I’m sure he will clarify his position
I don't take issue with people who disagree.
Really ? I was off this site for 7 months and I came back here and the first post I saw was one of yours with an outrageous attack on another , it’s par for the course on here everyone trolls and bounces of each other
When I joined here years ago the atmosphere was different and some excellent debate and debaters took part , if you seriously think people come here to debate you’re deluded also if you think that I and others are like this on other forums like DI you’re again deluded
I moved from here as the bitching , fighting and constant one upmanship became the norm
I never ban for mere disagreement. You and Nom are trolls. Nothing else is necessary to ban either of you on a whim.
Sure I engaged in trolling here because debate rarely happened one or two sane comments were posted on each topic then all hell broke loose
I warned Andy of this 2 years ago but the man was too busy with work and family commitments to step in , it’s unfortunate as he’s a decent guy who put a lot of work in
Meanwhile I like others get decent mutually respectful debate on DI without all this bullshit
It’s rather telling you accuse me and Nom of trolling when you appear to take relish in it , but of course I expect no more than you to totally deny this as usual it’s always everyone else except me
Yeah. If he could manage to keep the like of nom out, this place might be different.
But the outrageous remark that I first seen when I came back here was from you attacking Nom who had penned an excellent response to one of your posts he included citations and links and you savagely attacked him without once addressing his arguments , yet again he gets the blame for your failure to defend your position you did the same with me several times as every rebuttal to your arguments is met with a sarcastic remark or “I’m right cause I say so attitudes “
Seriously mate you need to take a long hard look at yourself before you condemn others
Seriously mate you need to take a long hard look at yourself before you condemn others
Amarel is the classic example of the narcissistic personality disorder. An absolute inability to self-reflect or self-criticise his own thoughts, coupled with the delusion that his unlikability is always the fault of the other guy.
Amarel is the classic example of the narcissistic personality disorder. An absolute inability to self-reflect or self-criticise his own thoughts, coupled with the delusion that his unlikability is always the fault of the other guy.
I think it’s rather telling that he never ventured over to DI where his tantrums would not be tolerated and his positions on free will, morality , the law and government etc , etc , would be shredded and his sneering attitude leaving him getting a spanking from mods
It is remarkable I thought the same myself as in this guy is full of rage and self loathing but I guess that’s our fault as you correctly observed it surely couldn’t be his
I note he replied to another by typing a piece that would make War and Peace seem like a short story , his “ observations “ about law and property are absolutely hilarious
I think it’s rather telling that he never ventured over to DI where his tantrums would not be tolerated and his positions on free will, morality , the law and government etc , etc , would be shredded and his sneering attitude leaving him getting a spanking from mods
Absolutely buddy. I've pretty much lost patience deconstructing and refuting his claims because A) Most of them contradict each other and B) He never listens or acknowledges criticism anyway. Not unless you're prepared to acknowledge him as some kind of intellectual equal like Jace does, which appears to be the delusion he is trying to satisfy.
You are a sneering troll and the evidence for that is clear, since you are the one who has launched the unprovoked attack, and I am the one laughing at you for being such a transparently salty halfwit. 😂
amarel struck me as having a somewhat visceral reaction to my stance, but thats not entirely unreasonable given my stance, their prior knowledge of my views, and their own normative commitments. and while they did misunderstood me in part, i don't think they deliberately misrepresented me here. incidentally, i cant recall that they've ever banned me despite our strong disagreement on most things.
amarel struck me as having a somewhat visceral reaction to my stance, but thats not entirely unreasonable given my stance, their prior knowledge of my views, and their own normative
Well yes his visceral nature is what has him posting emotional arguments which are unreasoning in nature and don’t stand up to scrutiny
commitments. and while they did misunderstood me in part, i don't think they deliberately misrepresented me here.
That is rare for Amarel
incidentally, i cant recall that they've ever banned me despite our strong disagreement on most things.
Really ? I’m impressed as his normal reaction to cross examination is ban
i cannot speak to the relationships amarel has with others, nor can i account for the difference in our respective experiences with them. but from my experience, amarel is a predominantly reasoned person who does not observe the asinine convention of repressing one's emotional relationship to substantive issues. i generally respect them and value the intellectual relationship we have maintained over the years.
from my experience, amarel is a predominantly reasoned person
Coming from someone who thinks the idea of language is to overcomplicate and obfuscate all clarity of meaning, your interpretation of what is "reasoned" is of absolutely no worth to anybody with half a functional brain cell.
When people "strongly disagree" with each other in reality (i.e. when they aren't pretending for the sake of what they perceive as a reward), they inevitably end up resenting each other.
You call it "ad hominem drivel" but scholars simply call it critical analysis.
your inability to respect and disagree with someone
Spare me your absurd pseudo-intellectual fallacies of induction. You cannot infer, on the basis of my rejection of your convoluted, senseless word salads -- which rarely if ever contain a valid point or idea -- that I cannot respectfully disagree with someone.
You are simply an idiot, and that is why you are getting the impression that I think you're an idiot.
You are simply an idiot, and that is why you are getting the impression that I think you're an idiot.
It’s the truth buddy Jace is nearly as big a tit as the 7 gunner
You’re absolutely spot on an example attempt to read Amarels latest “piece “ from Friday of utter contradictory nonsense to another user , my cat would put together a better piece typing blindfolded with its tail
Jace responds the very same way every time as the 7 gunner
cannot speak to the relationships amarel has with others, nor can i account for the difference in our respective experiences with them. but from my experience, amarel is a predominantly reasoned person who does not observe the asinine convention of repressing one's emotional relationship to substantive issues.
Yet you called him a buffoon two months ago it seems his little pat on your back has placated you somewhat , a very Pavlovian but lamentably predictable response
I generally respect them and value the intellectual relationship we have maintained over the years.
“Intellectual relationship “ 😂 You mean two bullshitters couching every statement in academic sounding gibberish in an attempt to see who can piss higher ? Sure buddy keep telling yourself that 😎😎👌
“Intellectual relationship “ 😂 You mean two bullshitters couching every statement in academic sounding gibberish in an attempt to see who can piss higher ?
i dont think that i did, actually. regardless, im sure ive found them lacking on occasion and may well have said as much at those times. but thats not inconsistent with my observations that i find them to be predominantly reasoned and that i generally respect them.
my view of amarel is consistent, despite your baseless speculation that ive adjusted my attitude in response to them patting me on the back (which didn't happen). what has changed in this thread is ur attitude towards me once it became clear that i wasn't going to join ur amarel bashing band wagon.
and no, i mean intellectual relationship. i don't know them well outside of our intellectual discussions, so that's why i delimited the relationship that way. fortunately for amarel and me, ur disdain for vocabularies which exceed ur own really is nothing to do with us.
perhaps u should try chatting with burrito who shares ur aversion to words as well as ur bizarre need to ineffectually dissect a relationship that's nothing to do with u. in any event, im done entertaining ur silly bit of nonsense.
Of course you don’t as you’re to arrogant to accept facts
regardless, im sure ive found them lacking on occasion and may well have said as much at those times.
“Lacking on occasion “ translation ....Amarel is a bullshitter
but thats not inconsistent with my observations that i find them to be predominantly reasoned and that i generally respect them.
Translation.......he gave you a pat on the head and you’re wagging your tail in joy
my view of amarel is consistent, despite your baseless speculation that ive adjusted my attitude in response to them patting me on the back (which didn't happen)
My view is not “speculative “ it’s based on your exchange with Amarel where he insulted you and you cowered like a whipped cur then he placated you by complimenting you on your “repugnant “ views , truly tragic that you delight in such as “compliment “
. what has changed in this thread is ur attitude towards me once it became clear that i wasn't going to join ur amarel bashing band wagon.
Neither Amarel or you are being bashed so stop being a drama Queen , you and he are here because you don’t want debate otherwise you would debate on an actual debate site......
BTW I called you a drama Queen you’re probably in tears now at being “misgendered” 😢😢😢
and no, i mean intellectual relationship.
That would be a first an “intellectual relationship “ without intellectual exchanges 😱 You and he think your “hip “ and “with it” because you read Postmodernist junk online and use the latest phrase or buzz word
I just bet you call a new born baby a “theyby” in case you place gender identity on an infant that may be “gender fluid”
I don't know them well outside of our intellectual discussions, so that's why i delimited the relationship that way. fortunately for amarel and me, ur disdain for vocabularies which exceed ur own really is nothing to do with us.
“Ur disdain” 😂😂😂 This from a clown like you holding forth on vocabularies 😂😂😂
perhaps u should try chatting with burrito who shares ur aversion to words as well as ur bizarre need to ineffectually dissect a
relationship that's nothing to do with u. in any event, im done entertaining ur silly bit of nonsense.
But I do talk to Burrito and he makes perfect sense ,B and I love words when used correctly you and Amarel are pure and utter bullshitters trying to appear “trendy “ by using the latest Academic term or buzzword .....
I just bet if a neighbour greeted you with “ good morning Jace “ you would be startled and respond as in ......” your statement is vague and it’s iteration confusing on several levels , I shall first critique it linguistically as the term “ good “ is open to interpretation as a linguistic link between it and its intended “target” is unclear as Jace is referring to what ? The identity of the entity Jace is unclear .....as Kant once mused , etc , etc ........Amarel as a nosey neighbour on hearing this exchange would also berate the neighbour for using inconsistent linguistic devices which he finds “distressing “.....
The bewildered neighbour would flee to the comforts of the nearest bar while you and Amarel continue to bullshit about language and meaning for the next 20 or so days
probably ur greatest error in judgment here is in supposing that the bar would be a safe retreat from me. surely id follow the beset neighbor to discuss the matter over pints.
probably ur greatest error in judgment here is in supposing that the bar would be a safe retreat from me. surely id follow the beset neighbor to discuss the matter over pints.
And totally finish the poor man off with a dissertation on postmodernist thought and it implications regards gender issues 😂
not implausible, although id say im more likely to go for the jugular by denying the self altogether. that's the reason the pubs dont ban me - i generate depressive alcoholics. really, im their cash cow... supposing that cash and cows and pubs exist, of course.
i cant recall that they've ever banned me despite our strong disagreement on most things.
This "strong disagreement" you refer to is precluded by the symbiotic relationship you have with him in which you both appeal to each other's need for validation as support for your own pseudo-intellectual drivel.
This "strong disagreement" you refer to is precluded by the symbiotic relationship you have with him in which you both appeal to each other's need for validation as support for your own pseudo-intellectual drivel
One is as bad as the other you’re right the attitude of the two of them is “if you cannot blind them with science baffle them with bullshit” 😎
your unsolicited interjection speaks volumes about your own insecurities.
Your failure to comprehend the purpose of a free public debate belies your inability to use a word without looking up a synonym first in the online thesaurus. You are so self-evidently desperate for intellectual validation that it is pitiful watching you try to find it in ridiculous language.
That's your second inductive fallacy in the space of two posts. You cannot take an experience unique between you and I, and then arbitrarily expand it into a general rule. That is what idiots do, hence why I am calling you an idiot.
i can see how you came away from my remarks with your impressions. however, they're not entirely correct. i'll try to clarify, though i don't think it'll make my position less repugnant to you. another dead baby stance, as it were.
i should reiterate that my first order preference is that academia be identity neutral and diverse. failing that, i have very little interest in academia and don't much care what happens to it. certainly, i would find my own exclusion rather trivial and uninteresting. and i don't really care about "white students today" in and of themselves. i don't identify with them through race, or as a student for that matter. whatever they might deserve isn't something i take any particular interest in for its own sake.
moreover, if academia is not identity neutral and diverse then it is just a brawling grounds for racists (and other bigots). if the cake is racist however its cut, then id mildly prefer it be cut to favor resistant racists rather than dominant racists. that is at least the more interesting option. and by "fair turn" i didn't mean anything normative or moral, rather that violent retribution is in human nature so it wouldn't be the most surprising thing to me. really, my stance is less an endorsement and more a permissiveness born out of divestment and resignation.
you're right that this signals a departure from my earlier selves, but not because ive deconstructed my individualism. rather, because ive developed a deep pessimism towards our species and its political existence. previously, id have cleaved onto the ideal academia and refused to permit anything outside of that ideal. but it doesn't bother me now to say that if the ideal is beyond us, then i accept the violence and chaos in whatever way best satisfies me. i just don't see what denying the violence of our social existence gets me, other than a diminished ability to negotiate that existence.
I appreciate the deeper dive. I have to view your posts as explanatory rather than justifying. This means often reminding myself that justification should not be sought from you. I don't find your explanation repugnant so much as depressing.
ha. yes, i expect that that is an adjustment from discussions with most people. value nihilists make for difficult conversationalists. incidentally, i also find my explanation rather depressing.
I have to view your posts as explanatory rather than justifying.
Ah, so you admit you have no free will? I'm glad that's cleared up.
This means often reminding myself that justification should not be sought from you.
What are you even talking about?
I don't find your explanation repugnant so much as depressing.
You've literally just accused him/her/it of not justifying her posts, but explanation is the (attempted) justification of an idea.
This is why you both are so ridiculous. It's like a little love affair where you both write huge quantities of rubbish without actually saying a goddamned thing of worth. I'm not even a PhD and it takes me less than ten seconds to notice the stack of logical and/or linguistic contradictions in your sentences.
This is why you both are so ridiculous. It's like a little love affair where you both write huge quantities of rubbish without actually saying a goddamned thing of worth. I'm not even a PhD and it takes me less than ten seconds to notice the stack of logical and/or linguistic contradictions in your sentences.
You’re right Amarel types reams of contradictory bullshit and gender issues Jace responds with reams of utter tripe and they both continue the pretense they have said something meaningful......pathetic
Where was that? I haven't heard of the banning of whites, just white racist troublemakers trying (and succeeding), to stir up trouble! It's almost as if they're TRYING to get banned ... it makes better headlines!
No. I just liked America when it WAS great. When we had patriots that loved democracy. The number of people alive today that actually know what America was like is a minority. We weren't perfect but WERE working to be. Lefties and righties disagreed often but found solutions. What you call "cloud- cuckoo-land" was so much nicer and safer than what we have today that I consider YOU unfortunate that you have NO idea what it was like. Enjoy YOUR "buck stupid" idiocy. I never needed a gun to walk down the street though I always had a few at home. What is taking place in the world in which I live is what people like you cause.
So now you're jumped the shark from calling someone that's been banned a racist, which there is no evidence that Ben Shapiro is actually guilty of being one himself. You've somehow shifted the goalpost to calling him a fascist, or at least calling Trump one, to much the same effect. Both of which would be untrue assumptions on your part.
So were you calling out racist, or fascist, and how do this apply to someone like Ben Shapiro?
Which basically means you can't prove either the claim of racism, or fascism.
I can play by those same rules, claiming that anyone who voted for, or even just likes Biden is a pedophile. And by your own standards I would be correct on that matter.
No. Basically it means I have nothing to argue ABOUT. Anybody with a knowledge of what America WAS, when it WAS GREAT, knows a fascist when they see one. They've come out of the woodwork the last 4 years. Swamp scum. They call themselves "patriots". They hate a democratic government. They attack citizens. They are JUST LIKE the brown shirts of nazi Germany ... no better.
No. It means I see no point in debating with someone who has his mind, as it is, made up. "IT IS WHAT YOU SAY IT IS... BECAUSE YOU SAY IT IS. That's not an act, it's a fact according to you. We just went through 4 years of "facts according to someone". That added up to nearly 30,000 verifiable lies. He was a fascist, he was a racist. That's not a claim, that's a verifiable fact.
No, those are still just claims that you can only make. Not that you can prove, or have even attempted to prove.
I've given more than a few posters the exact same chance to supply their own citations for this kind of thing, and they do nothing, but spout the same repeating lines.
Then that just means that the both of you are still simply stuck with having similar opinions.
Though I do find it funny that of all the things you conveniently decided to ignore from my post. Was the request for some proof of Trump's supposed fascism.
But now you've gone and backed yourself into a corner once again. Stating that I'm somehow hiding political extremism.
So you really need to start taking the time to actually think, before you post a response to anyone.
Good for you. You both share an opinion with nearly 100% of the rest of the US.
Someone keeping, or reading a book, is not proof of fascism.
You don't happen to have any citable policies that he put forward, or any actions that he took during office?
All you have as proof, is a book that's most likely been read by over half the country, not including the amount of college students that both keep their own and write papers on the exact same text.
Your proof, is nothing but a fallacy.
Which is most likely why you refrained from supplying it in the first place.
Here's the point where BurritoLunch contradicts his own post
You really are so stupid. First you ask for "proof" that Donald Trump is a fascist, as if the ENTIRE WORLD hasn't been talking about it for the last four years!! Then you claim almost 100 percent of Americans hate fascists, despite 70 million of you VOTING FOR ONE.
I literally showed you that the man reads Hitler speeches before he goes to bed at night. What is actually wrong with you? 😂
No you showed me that he owned a copy of the book, not that he "read the book before he went to bed every night".
You're also forgetting to point out just how much you've failed to actually supply some form of hard evidence for these claims. Beyond the fallacy of someone just owning a book.
So you're doing nothing, other then building a false argument on lies and misconceptions.
Which is why I asked for proof to begin with. It plainly shows that you cannot stand up to a legitimate discussion. Much like your childish tirades keep revealing.
Here is your last chance BurritoLunch. Actually face the music, and show that you have some form of debating chops for once. In pointing out something that showed Trump to be a fascist. Because if all you have is that he had a copy of an already widely distributed book. As pointed out by an already inflammatory opinion piece.
No you showed me that he owned a copy of the book, not that he "read the book before he went to bed every night
Stop lying you boring Nazi idiot. I showed you that he kept the book in his bedside cabinet. Your theory that the bedside cabinet is not for keeping books to read before bedtime is interesting though. Please send me your thesis, Herr Dickhead.
You're also forgetting to point out just how much you've failed to actually supply some form of hard evidence for these claims.
You are just so delusional. If it walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist, and pledges to make America/Germany great again like a fascist, then it's a fascist.
A leading Holocaust historian just compared the US to Nazi Germany
Poor little Burrito, still unable to speak and behave like an adult.
You showed me no policy, or action that Trump touted, or suggested that followed what it is that would make someone a fascist.
All you have, is a fallacy and nothing more. You've also missed where Mr. Browning showed some indication that his mention made Trump to be the fascist, because the fact that you just blindly linked the article. Much like Vox usually did in their own actions.
You've missed how this actually correlates to Trump being the fascist in this equation.
How about this as a fact.
You're a pedophile. You walk like a pedophile and you talk like one as well. It's a far gone conclusion now that you are in fact, someone who likes to molest and rape chidlren. I'm sorry that your self-imosed delusion has you locked in this state.
There, I've played by your rules.
You're free to keep running away from the topic at hand now.. Mr. Pedo.
Just out of interest, is it your position that Trump's relentless plagiarism of Hitler speeches had nothing to do with the book of Hitler speeches in his bedside cabinet?
You wouldn't believe it if you saw the Swastika tattood on his ass. I wouldn't waste my time! He walks, talks and waves his fist exactly like Mussolini! He has his own "Brown Shirt gangs", he demands loyalty and obedience! If it walks like a duck .......! :-(
You mean for me to believe something that you can't, or are simply unwilling to supply?
Repeating a lie does not make it true. Seeing as you can't even point to one thing that makes Trump out to be a fascist. You're basically spending this whole time, chewing on your own foot, and crying that I wouldn't believe it even if I saw it. Is your only means to bow out of the discussion at this point, because you simply lack any form of proof that can stand up to even the slightest amount of scrutiny.
Listen, I know you have a hard enough time keeping your train of thought on it's admittedly short track.
But saying that I'm someone else, especially when you have no way of actually showing such a claim to be true, or even sensible. Just shows that you have no power, or even any say in what counts as rational debate.
You're basically a toothless puppy at this point.
It's cute to watch you chew at your meal, but it's also sad at the same time.
Americans are obsessed with racism because, in America, it is among the worst things to be accused of. Racism receives near universal condemnation in America. As such, it is a useful political tool. If people can be convinced that your opponent is racist, your opponent will be forced to go away. This works in the private sector too. If someone is moving on up and you don't like it, scour twitter history and that may get them out of the way.
The problem with this tool is tied to it's power. The more people have come to reject racism, the less racism there is. In order to maintain such a valuable tool, the definition of racism had to be expanded to include things that aren't racist by the first definition. Institutional racism need not even involve a racist individual for charges of racism to be levied. Disparate outcome is sufficient evidence.
In fact, being a non-racist individual can even be seen as supporting racism since it is not anti-racist. And that's where we begin to come full circle. Racism used to mean judging people by their skin rather than the content of their character. But to the anti-racist, failure to do so makes you part of the problem.
Going round and round over such a potent political tool with definitions that contradict other definitions for the same word is what has our culture obsessed with racism. But if you put down the phone and tv, you find most folks basically agree on the general matter. The rest is noise.
