There was not a single shred of scientific evidence in what you posted. Only arguments about others claims that were not backed up by any scientific data. Is that the best you can do? It's laughable.

Making the claim that some species evolved from others, because they are similar is not science. It is supposition. Nothing more.

While it is a fact that fossils exist, they do not support the theory of evolution, since there is another explanation for them. Try again.

I didn't ask for a freakin website. I asked for facts. Show me one. Just one.

In reality, there are absolutely no scientific facts to support the theory of evolution. Try to prove me wrong.

You have proven nothing. We both have statistics backing up what we say. But ask yourself this. If you were planning on killing someone, would you kill them in a state with, or without, the death penalty?

And I knew I should have banned you the first time you opened your mouth.

Wrong. Murder is SOMETIMES a crime of PASSION. I don't know the statistics, but many murders are planned in advance. These are the ones who will stop and think. Is this really worth it? And, once again, look at the number of murders committed by someone who has already murdered someone else. Do you even know how many? Do you even care?

It would also help if we televised all executions. People need to see the consequences for murder.

All I'm saying is that rational people pay attention to the consequences of their actions. Granted, most of them think they will never be caught, let alone executed. I never claimed that executions eliminated murders, but they DO have an effect. The data supports this.

Like I said before. Liberals have put so many restrictions on the death penalty, that it is not as effective as it used to be. If we had speedy trials and executions, it would definitely prevent murders, if for no other reason than those murderers are dead and can no longer kill. Do you have any idea how many murders are committed by repeat offenders? Then we send then to prison to learn how to be better criminals. Justice has lost it's teeth, and it's all because of bleeding heart liberal scumbags, who would rather murder babies before they have a chance to be born.

Did it ever occur to you that the reason the murder rate drops is because people who might be considering doing it might think twice after hearing about new executions? The fact remains. Whenever someone is executed, there are an average of 74 fewer murders.

Not a damn thing. But the numbers are valid for the years in question. Do you doubt that a new study would show the same results?

If you can read this and still believe that the death penalty does not prevent murders, then you are denser then uranium.

Statistics show that every time someone is executed, 76 fewer people are murdered.

Why should I do that? You'll simply ignore it. Besides, it's easy enough to GOOGLE. You do know how to use GOOGLE, right?

Sure there is. We have first hand accounts of the people who witnessed it.

I hear ya, and I totally agree. Too bad our elected officials lack common sense. And even the few who do are bought and paid for. We have the best government money can buy.

And how do you know that God is a delusion? Can you prove it? The answer is no.

You're right, I can't, and that's why I don't make the claim there is no god, I simply do not believe because of a lack of evidence.

You mention a lack of evidence. There is plenty of evidence. You simply refuse to believe, but it's not for a lack of evidence.

Jesus claimed to be God, in the flesh. There is plenty of historical evidence to support this.

There may be evidence to support a man from that time called Jesus, and even of his claims, but there is no evidence to support the claims being true.

Over 500 people witnessed seeing him after His Resurrection.

How can you explain Christianity without a Christ?

How do you explain Islam without Mohammed? How do you explain Scientology without Xenu?

No one is claiming that Mohammed was a fictional character. He was, however, a pedophile and a murderer.

They stuck to this claim in spite of being imprisoned, tortured and even killed.

Willingness to suffer for something has no bearing on whether something is true. People from all religions have suffered for their beliefs.

Do you know anyone who would suffer such torment for a lie? I don't.

They certainly would if they believed the lie. Remember Heaven's Gate? What about the martyrs of Islam?

It is one thing to die for something you believe in. It is quite different when one dies for something they have witnessed themselves. Jesus rose from the dead. That is the message they died for. They died for something they knew to be true. If they did not believe that it was true, they would have renounced Christ in order to save themselves.

Agreed. But I still have a problem with artificially imposed age limits. Not everyone is equal in development. As long as someone can demonstrate that they know what they are getting into, especially with their parents guidance and support, I don't see why a 16 year old cannot marry. I do draw the line at 16, though. I've met some very mature 16 yo. Can't say the same about 15 yo.

One day, you will learn the truth. Hopefully, it won't be too late. And how do you know that God is a delusion? Can you prove it? The answer is no. You can't. Jesus claimed to be God, in the flesh. There is plenty of historical evidence to support this. In fact, How can you explain Christianity without a Christ? The 12 Apostles claimed to have seen a risen Christ. They stuck to this claim in spite of being imprisoned, tortured and even killed. Do you know anyone who would suffer such torment for a lie? I don't.

If you believe that a Christian can become an atheist, then you have no conception of what a Christian is. There is no such thing as a former Christian. Becoming a Christian involves a fundamental change in a person that transcends the physical. It is a transformation that makes one a child of God. You may have called yourself a Christian, but you can call yourself anything you like. You're still you. And you were never a Christian.

The question is where do we draw the line? Some areas allow marriage at the age of 16. In some cultures, they marry even younger. I've always thought that 18 was too old. In colonial times, marriage at the age of 15 or 16 was common. What has changed between then and now, that someone can go to prison for having sex with someone the day before their 18th birthday? I think it should be based on a persons maturity, and ability to take care of themselves and raise a family. Also, if one is physically and mentally mature, they should be able to do what they want. Age has little to do with that. It's life experience that determines that.

So, I guess that means you are against protecting children from sexual predators. Is that what you are saying? And why are you trying to protect those who prey on children? Are you a child molester? Should I call the FBI?

Dating methods do NOT agree. In fact, different dating methods often disagree when used on the same samples. The simple fact is that they are not nearly as accurate as you claim.

You were a Christian? I doubt that. A Christian would believe the Biblical account of Creation. Since you don't, you were never a Christian. You may have called yourself one, but you never were one.

So you believe that raping, then strangling a 12 year old girl to death is not evil? You don't deserve to live. You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong in the world.

I can't even take you seriously. But I guess you can't help yourself. I bet you went to a public school. Didn't you? Poor slob. They brainwashed you pretty good.

WOW! Never seen anyone so greatly fixed on defending dangerous perverts. Wait. I have. Lots of liberal scumbags do that every day.

Radio carbon dating relies on assumptions. Such as whether or not decay rates are stable. There is evidence that environmental factors alter this. Then you have to figure that the amount of Carbon 14 in the environment has remained stable. There is convincing evidence that it has not. Assuming the earth was created 6,000 or so years ago, it would have had very little C14 in the environment. This would give false readings based on the amount of C14 that was missing from the environment.

Doesn't matter what it is. If someone molests a child, they need to be put down. Just like you put down a dog with rabies. Like I said. Molesting a child requires a conscious choice to do so. They made the decision, they pay the price. Simple as that.

Not true. Radiocarbon dating is unreliable. There have been many scientific papers about it's unreliability. Did you know how they really date fossils? When they find one, it is found in a particular geologic column. They say that they know how old the fossil is by where it was found. So, how do they know how the strata is? Well, because they found a fossil of known age there. Circular reasoning, in the extreme. In fact, there is no reliable way to date fossils beyond several thousand years.

Is there a difference? A pedophile is simply someone who has not yet acted on their impulses. Even if they never actually molest a child, they undoubtedly have downloaded images if child porn. Much of it was paid for. So they are supporting those who actually do prey on children.

Well, aren't you just special. Keep denying God. You're in for a rude awakening. You see, it doesn't matter what anyone believes. God will have His way. Nothing you can do about it but submit. You're playing with fire, and you don't even know it. Only a fool says there is no God.

Seriously? You're using the "You're too stupid to understand" argument? How lame is that? I'll have you know that not all scientists agree on anything. Many of them disagree with the big bang and evolution. I suppose you're one of those idiots who think that 97 percent of scientists agree with man made global warming. Here's a news flash for you. That's a bunch of BS.

It requires a conscious act of premeditation to molest a child. It is not a disorder. It is pure evil. Regardless of why they do it, it deserves the ultimate punishment. People like that don't deserve to live.

No one knows how the universe came into being. No one witnessed the event. All we can do is speculate. The math they used to figure out the big bang breaks down when they try to take it back to the actual event. I repeat. No one knows. It's nothing but a matter of faith...for BOTH sides.

There are documented cases of people being blacklisted, fired...etc, for disagreeing with the establishment. It is highly politicized, and the peer review process is a joke. They simply rubber stamp the theories they agree with, and ignore anything that threatens their beliefs. It's no different than what Galileo went through. Instead of the church, we have a community of scientists who defend their pet theories against all comers. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's actually happening. And it needs to stop.

My problem with Science is that it is too easily politicized. There are many cases where scientists, and university professors, have suffered professionally for questioning Uncle Darwin. That's not science. It's dogma, backed up by threats.

That doesn't even qualify as a theory. There is no way to test it.

AMEN!! We are too soft on criminals. They used to fear the law. Not anymore.

Even though that person wants YOU dead? His lies put you on death row, and you're telling us you wouldn't want him dead? I don't buy it. You would spend the rest of your short life wishing him dead.

So, you think that someone who bears false witness is not a danger to society? What if you were on trial for a murder you did not commit, and someone lied about it, to get you convicted? How would you feel then?

He also claims that the Universe exists because of gravity. Which is rather funny, since gravity cannot exist without matter. So, what was the source of this gravity, when the universe, and matter, did not exist?

Science has its place. Origins theory is not one of them. Why?

It's simple. Science it the pursuit of knowledge, through observation and experimentation. As far as origins are concerned, there is nothing to observe, or be experimented upon. So, in effect, it's not really science. Is it?

No question. They deserve to die. Sure, you could give them life in prison, but statistics prove that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated. Best just to remove them from the gene pool.

The way I see it, such false accusations are equivalent to attempted murder. I say kill the bastard. Not because of what they did, but in order to prevent others from doing the same.

Why is it too harsh? A false accusation can ruin someones life. The punishment should fit the crime. What is someones good name worth? I would go so far as to invoke the death penalty for perjury in a capital case. If someone tells a lie, in order to have someone executed, they deserve to die. Or do you think that's too harsh?

I have always thought of hate crimes as an oxymoron. First of all, any crime against an individual involves hate. Second, how is a jury supposed to know what you were thinking? There is no way to know, for sure. Sure, you can look at past behavior, but no one can know what goes on in someones head when they commit a crime.

The only hate I see is the hatred of those who wish to silence me. I will fight to the death to prevent that from ever happening, to me or anyone else.

The Constitution does not guarantee you the right to not be offended. This is the reason some people want hate speech laws. They disagree with what you say, so they label you a hater. They cannot win an honest debate about anything, so their only alternative is to try to silence the opposition. Classic Rules for Radicals tactics.

Congratulations. You're banned. It is painfully obvious that you are not interested in civil debate. You were antagonistic and rude from the beginning. Life is too short to deal with haters like yourself. Have a nice day.

Challenge accepted. You seem to care a lot about your precious points. YOU are my new pet project. I will bring your score down into the gutter. Just like you did to mine. I didn't have the buffer of thousands of votes, like you do. But I'll keep chipping away at it. I'll get my friends to help.

Suck it up, buttercup. At least I didn't ban you. You're good for the occasional laugh, at least. Not much else, but there is your entertainment value. Stupid is funny, and you do it soooooooooo well.

They were allowed to enslave those taken in battle. I suppose you would be happier if they were killed? You're such an idiot. And indentured servitude was the ONLY way they could pay off their debts. They were basically agreeing to work for someone, under a lawful contract, to discharge that debt. Once again, you're an idiot. Does it hurt to be that stupid? Is that why you are so angry?

Your ignorance is showing again. The slavery mentioned in Scripture is referring to indentured servitude. It was a common practice, and there were rules in place for the ethical treatment of them. Modern slavery, known as man stealing in the Bible, was expressly forbidden, and carried the death penalty for those who were caught doing it. In fact, people in Biblical times would sell themselves into slavery in order to make good on debts that they owed. They would work off that debt, and were freed once the debt was resolved. They are not the same thing. You would know this if you only did a little research.

The Bible forbids slavery. If someone is a slave, it's because someone broke Gods law by stealing them, or purchasing them. So the actions of others can affect anyone who is caught up in the consequences of the sins of others. And it is never a waste of time to do what is right, no matter ones circumstances.

What behavior created these mentally disabled people? I asked for human caused societal ills. Actually, mentally disabled babies are often the result of doing drugs. I assume you know the Biblical view of drugs.

Oh, come on! You know perfectly well which God I'm referring to. When a Westerner, especially in the the USA, mentions God, they are referring to the God of Jacob. You would know this if you had read my initial reply that started this topic. Pay attention.

There you go, trying to shift the goal posts. This thread is not about the existence of God, but of Gods law. This law DOES exist, wherever it came from. And there is conclusive evidence that disobeying this law results in bad things happening. Do you dispute this?

Well said! I'll admit that I wasn't really prepared to argue this. I just threw it out there to stir the pot, so to speak. And BOY, did I! Moral absolutes are like Kryptonite to these folks, and their replies prove it.

I believe the problem is that most people refuse to admit that there are moral absolutes. Why are they so threatened by such a concept? Everyone would agree that taking the life of an innocent would be morally wrong. That is a moral absolute. And it is also a good law to enforce. The problem occurs when moral absolutes are applied to something that person enjoys doing. They cannot even fathom that they should deny themselves, for their own good, as well as the good of others. They are focused on their own pleasure and desires, and damn anyone who says they shouldn't indulge themselves.

First. I have read it. Many times, in fact.

Second. I'm still waiting for your example. Do you have one, or will you continue to waste my time?

Excuse me. I asked for specific examples of behavior. Now, would you care to try again? If you're lucky, someone might think you're somewhat intelligent, if you could give just one example. But I'm guessing that you can't.

I really can't think of any. Jesus taught us the proper way to act. Anything contrary to that is harmful to the individual, as well as society as a whole. If you look at the ten signs of a dying culture, you will notice that each and every one of them are actions contrary to Scripture. Thus, there are moral absolutes. Ignoring them will always lead to pain and suffering...because they are the opposite of what Jesus taught.

All I have to do is look at what it is like in atheist countries, like N. Korea. Wherever you remove God from the equation, misery and death follow. In fact, you cannot point to one societal ill, that is the result of human agents, that is not contrary to what Jesus taught us.

I'm not one to say that all liberals are alike. There are actually a few that I respect and admire...Because they are NOT LEFTISTS. I have no real problems with blue collar Democrats. But this new breed of Democrats is comprised of every sort of evil, vicious and self serving scumbag; who have been the cause of demise of countless cultures throughout history. I believe they call themselves Progressives now. Different name. Same scumbags. Make no mistake. They are evil. Their ultimate goal is to enslave everyone to their way of thinking. Through force, if necessary. Enough said.

What can one say about how Liberals act? I could fill entire books on this subject. Liberals are adults who have never matured mentally. When you watch how they behave, in any situation, just compare it to how a spoiled child acts, and respond appropriately. Too bad we can't give them all the spanking they deserve. It would make things a lot easier.

Liberals are only offended by things that are good and decent. Like marital fidelity, a belief in a Creator, and anyone who disagrees with them about anything. Poor little snowflakes.

The only thing I'm proud of is being a child of God. Nothing else matters, compared to that. Not saying the other things aren't important, but what does any of it matter if you wind up in Hell? And if you know God, then all the good things in life will follow.

Am I proud to be an American? I'll answer with a question. What difference does it make? It's only a label. People are the same sinful, miserable, violent mobs they always are. No matter where they live. I am Proud of what America once was, but it is no longer the same America. We kill unborn babies by the millions, then allow murderers to keep their miserable skins intact. We dishonor everything that was once held dear. There is no accountability for our elected officials. Corruption is endemic. Don't think that Trump can fix anything. He can't. America's condition is the result of the populace, and we have lost our way.

If you're interested in why I think this way, GOOGLE "ten signs of a dying culture." America displays all ten symptoms. Something that has never happened in all of recorded history. The only thing that can save us is a miracle. And that will never happen unless Americans humble themselves and turn back to God.

When you're a politician, you keep secrets. It's what you do. If our government told us everything, there would be a panicked revolt. How does that quote go?..."YOU can't handle the TRUTH!"

Ben Shapiro said it best. Liberals are adults who have never matured mentally. They are adults who act like children. Which is why they favor the Nanny State, and all the freebies that Dems offer to entice them to vote for them.

It's called perjury. It's a crime. A felony, in some cases. So yeah. Lock 'em up.

The Bible also states that all things were created by Him (Jesus) and for Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. I'm no braniac, but it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. It's like basic math. Which makes me wonder about those who refuse to see the obvious. Is there a correlation between this and basic math skills? Someone should research this. Could be interesting. ")