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The numbers of children getting Covid from schools and spreading it to others is MINISCULE! All this fear mongering from Democrats was purely fictional in order to hurt Trump. They have treated this pandemic from the beginning as a means to defeating Trump. It is truly disgusting how corrupt these people are.
Oh and I agree that media has gone haywire with COVID and spread a bunch of nonsense. And the truth is I really don’t care if some of you die. Especially if you were out looking for it. Survival of the fitness right ?
BUT what I do know is the conditions my brother ( EMT ) and my friend ( nurse ) in March. The amount of work they had was inhumane and was real. THIS IS undebatable.
So out of respect, I ask some of you to please not dismiss and ignore their work.
Where I’m from it is known that children are the least at risk of being seriously sick.
Honestly, we all need to remember the original problem here: the health care system cannot handle a big number of people being sick all at once.
Therefore, doing whatever we can to slow the spread and will make sure that we don’t overwhelm the healthcare system.
We all know that COVID will often lead to hospitalization for old people and weak people (small percentage of the population). This percentage however is too much for the hospitals. The hospitals do not have enough staff and enough space for this amount of sick people.
that’s it. I don’t understand how politics can come into this debate. this is simply based on logic and simple facts. The simple facts are :
(1) COVID dangerously affects a small percentage of the population
(2) this affected percentage = too much in quantity for the hospitals
(3) overwhelmed hospitals = no doctors and nurses available anymore
(4) quarantine and mask just slows down the spread in order to avoid that everyone will be sick all at once
Thanks for bringing the conversation back to sanity. Yes, people like you and I who have not tried to destroy Trump with Covid politics look at the facts, and see how children are seldom affected.
Trying to destroy Trump is a waste of time. I am annoyed by anyone who strongly believes that Trump is the problem with this world. Trump is the most logical product of the American system.
I disagree with President Trump on some things but agree with him on others, and that's just my centrist opinion. I support President Trump, and I don't care if I am hated, for it. Yeshua who is my God and Lord, loves me. :)
You do know that's how science works, right? There was and still is a real fear that children could get it however early on when this was happening they found children less at risk. That doesn't mean kids can't be carriers and since many kids have family members at home who are at high risk there is still a concern. School are busting their behinds trying to make this as safe as possible and they are doing a really good job with it. Colleges have not been doing as well because you can't control college kids the way you can the younger one's.
"This does not mean the risk of contracting the coronavirus is zero. Poor and inconsistent reporting in many parts of the country means that experts do not yet have a full view of the situation, and most schools have been open for only a few weeks. It’s also unclear how closely the incidence of the coronavirus in schools is tied to policies in schools such as mandatory mask-wearing.
Most of the nation’s largest districts opened with fully remote teaching, so the data are largely from smaller communities. And the pandemic may grow worse as flu season and winter approaches.
But the fact that large swaths of the country opened for in-person school while others did not offers the more cautious districts a chance to observe how things have gone elsewhere in charting their next steps."
Trump has consistently downplayed it from the beginning and somewhere around 268,000 Americans have paid the ultimate price. Listen to the science, not some orange buffoon with a sharpie.
Trump is the one who has been listening to Science. You on the other hand have been listening to corrupt Democrats who have been trying to over throw Trump's Presidency for his entire term!
The Science and data from the very beginning has told us that kids handle Covid VERY VERY WELL, and seldom transfer it to family members!
Here you are still repeating the same old tired lies from the Left as to blame Trump for the deaths. GET REAL! Bleeding heart Sociaist Europe has had the same problems in their nation! IT'S NOT TRUMP'S FAULT!
Try blaming China just once in your life! Trump probably saved many many lives when he so early on banned China flights, while Biden criticized him for it!
Schools are not safe because they did a good job with Covid rules. Schools are safe because kids do not get or spread this diseases very easily. PERIOD! Those are the facts and data from the so called experts.
I will continue to listen to common sense from the Orange Nobel Peace Prize nominee President because he is not a politician. He is the exact opposite from trained politicians who have perfected the art of lying to the low end peasants who gladly vote for their free stuff at the expense of the working man.
Trump was defeated by a coup from the biased media. PERIOD! These corrupt media outlets buried every story hurting Demcrats, and cheer leaded every story hurting Trump. If you don't get that, then there is little hope for that type of ignorance.
In what world was Trump listening to science? Has he been proactive in wearing masks? No. Has he actively encouraged his followers to practice social distancing and wearing masks? No. He stood up there and downplayed every bit of this, wanting to create venue's that would encourage massive crowd's against the judgement and advise of the scientific community and his own advisers, just to make himself look good.
Of course schools are as safe as they can be because they did a good job listening to scientists and doctors. They are practicing distancing, mask wearing, and cleaning and notifying parents if there is a member in the county that was verified as having a positive test from Covid. In instances, such as colleges, where people AREN'T practicing the recommendations of qualified Doctor's there have been massive outbreaks. Hospitals are STILL trying to find room for the influx of people.
He is the exact opposite from trained politicians who have perfected the art of lying to the low end peasants who gladly vote for their free stuff at the expense of the working man.
You are absolutely right. He hasn't perfected the art of lying which is why it's so easy to see how much of a liar he is. It is VERY clear that he'll get as much as he can at the expense of the working man.
I repeat that schools are safe because kids seldom have any problems with the disease, as well as not spreading it to others.
If the schools had some recipe for keeping kids safe, we would be doing great in all our other places using the same rules. We are not! It's the kids! PERIOD!
Did you know that cloth masks are only about 3�fective? Do you hear that on fake news? Nah, all you hear from these Trump haters is that he did not push masks every word out of his mouth.
Maybe you missed it. Masks are not working. People are using their masks and it does not matter! I read where 70% of people getting Covid WERE WEARING THEIR MASKS!
I repeat that schools are safe because kids seldom have any problems with the disease, as well as not spreading it to others.
Are you familiar with children?
If the schools had some recipe for keeping kids safe, we would be doing great in all our other places using the same rules. We are not! It's the kids! PERIOD!
Except very few other places use the same rules as schools are. Mostly because egotistical adults (both young and old) feel what they perceive their rights to be are more important then keeping their fellow humans safe.
What I hear from Trump's cronies is that they say the masks don't protect them from getting it. That's only partially correct. Most people of reasonable intelligence understand that the mask is to protect others from getting it, not just to protect them from getting it. Let me put it another way. If you sneeze on me and I'm wearing a mask while you aren't, I will still get hit by your spittle. If you are wearing a mask and sneeze, I don't. The mask is more effective keeping the virus within the confines of whoever has it. And since the virus can take up to 10 days to even show itself and affect the host, people who don't wear a mask and feel fine can still EASILY be a carrier and infect others. If people don't get that after...what....10? months? Then they are willfully ignorant which is actually worse then just being plain stupid.
It is very difficult to argue with someone who simply sits there making up his own facts and auto-rejects all contradictory information as "fake". You are much better off calling their doctor.
So you are saying that schools have the answers to keeping people from getting Covid, and the rest of the WORLD does not do it? People are dying in Europe in case you missed it. So all these nations are refusing to do what you say schools have done to save lives?
LOL, that is how you deny the simple facts that kids have very ittle problem with Covid? You make up stuff off the top of your head. Making blanket statements that the world refuses to save lives by doing the same thing schools are doing?
I take that as a concession to my debate and the facts. Kids have very little problems with Covid, and are not big spreaders of the disease to others. PERIOD!
you are saying that schools have the answers to keeping people from getting Covid
What I said was: "Of course schools are as safe as they can be because they did a good job listening to scientists and doctors. They are practicing distancing, mask wearing, and cleaning and notifying parents if there is a member in the county that was verified as having a positive test from Covid. In instances, such as colleges, where people AREN'T practicing the recommendations of qualified Doctor's there have been massive outbreaks. Hospitals are STILL trying to find room for the influx of people."
that is how you deny the simple facts that kids have very ittle problem with Covid?
I didn't deny it. In fact earlier in my discussion with you I said that early on we found kids where less at risk especially from complications, HOWEVER they can still be carriers. They can still infect family members who are higher risk.
I take that as a concession to my debate and the facts. Kids have very little problems with Covid, and are not big spreaders of the disease to others. PERIOD!
Talk about making stuff up off the top of your head!
Doctors and the data agree that kids ARE NOT big spreaders of Covid and the very reason why schools should have been kept open. Trump was right as with most common sense things he supports.
The Lefty used this virus to demonize Trump without any evidence to back up their claims. Wait a minute, just like they did with the so called Russia Collusion. Fake news, fake Democrats, and fake debaters.
Schools aren't operating in their 'normal' capacity. If you think that then you would be wrong. Most are operating at half capacity, with remote distance learning, half days, cleaning days and rules for those who are coming into class such as wearing masks, distancing, and frequent sanitizing. Some school are ONLY remote learning.
The Left doesn't have to demonize Trump, the idiot does it to himself. If he'd had his way then things would be worse then they are. Thankfully school officials listened to the qualified professionals such as doctor's and scientists and used common sense. Of course we still have a large amount of people (idiots) desperately trying to ignore the science (or discredit it by saying the evidence is changing....which is exactly how science works by the way) by claiming it's all fake. Democrat or Republican, this should be taken seriously and it's not by a vast majority of uneducated fools who argue with the people who have actual medical degree's, knowledge, and experience. Hospitals don't have the space for that kind of intentional ignorance.
They fight for free education for adults but not children and teens? THAT is discrimination.............................................................................
Probably the reason there aren't as many cases in schools is because not many people are going back to school because of what the experts are saying. If Trump were controlling it the children would be dying, no doubt.
LOL, are you so naive to believe what the Trump hating fake news tells you? The experts and doctors are saying that schools bave been safe all along! You are still swallowing fake news!
Please act like an intelligent person and see through the politics. PLEASE! IT'S EMBARRASSING!
LOL, are you so naive to believe what the Trump hating fake news tells you?
Are you actually mad? Let me just see if I have this straight a moment. You are telling us to ignore all the evidence and all the facts and instead get our "news" from the alternative reality Twitter feed of a man who passed the milestone of 20,000 lies to the American public in June this year? What is actually wrong with you? Do you have a personality disorder or something? Problems dealing with reality?
The experts and doctors are saying that schools bave been safe all along!
No they aren't. I am afraid you are obviously talking absolutely stupid nonsense, because nowhere is safe where humans congregate indoors. The "data" does not seem to agree with you, so how about you go back and read it again you contemptibly stupid man:-
Michigan’s Nov. 30 report on coronavirus outbreaks in schools lists 218 K-12 schools and 37 colleges
Do you have ANY IDEA how immature and mindlessly stupid it is when you can not respond to a debate without personal insults?
Do you actually think I would respond to such a hateful child?
Now I want you to do what people like you always do, and scream that you got banned from my debate. LOL, are you jokes for real? You can not be that stupid to be shocked when you get banned for your hate, CAN YOU?
Don't try to twist my words. It won't work. I'm not denying that children may be at a lesser risk of Covid. But why put children and their families at risk by reopening schools? Have you seen the caseload? Do you know how many people have died?
There's absolutely no purpose to doing that. It's reckless and unnecessarily dangerous.
And yet Conservatives, when given the chance to give America universal healthcare that might help prevent those things, say that people are stupid and lazy and nobody deserves it except for you. That doesn't sound very Christian. It sounds Fascist.
It's also Fascist to spread misinformation about deadly viruses. Even if the children don't get it they can give it to everyone else around them including those at risk. Judging from the state your country is in there are too many people like you who are fine with loads of people dying in the name of the economy.
Children DO NOT spread Covid very easily as we have found with Teachers not getting the disease at very high rates. This is the DATA! This is what doctors are saying!
Yes, Conservatives care for people and the very reason they do NOT want universal Socialized healthcare. We see the long waits in Socialist nations for life saving medical procedures. Canadians come across the borders to get quicker medical procedures.
Americans have the compassion for people who want to keep their private doctors, private insurance, etc.
Children DO NOT spread Covid very easily as we have found with Teachers not getting the disease at very high rates
As has been thoroughly well-documented in this debate, you are the one who is spreading misinformation. Sending children to school who have Covid-19 is quite obviously not safe, and indeed one has to very seriously question the sanity of anybody trying to argue otherwise, let alone one who is prepared to wilfully misrepresent the opinion of doctors.
As per usual, the "data" implies the complete opposite of what you say it implies:-
Since March, 277,285 COVID-19 cases in children have been reported.
It's not misinformation, it's logic. I thought you didn't want to hurt children; Only if it's convenient for the economy, I suppose.
Ok, fine, children don't spread the disease easily. However that is no reason to be breaking down the doors trying to make children go back to school. The risk is imminent even if children are low risk. You shouldn't want to put people at risk no matter who they are.
Privatised health insurance punishes those who have medical problems. It will punish those who contract the virus.
Stop saying "Well, it's not my fault," and start saying "We should all work together."
FINALLY, you admitted children don't spread the disease very easily. Why must people on the Left waste all our time trying to deceive us from the facts, when we could actually be figuring out the best way to allow our nation to open. The vast majority of Americans handle Covid very well. It's those with the most risk who should be kept safe.
Oh, I forgot how Cuomo put people with Covid in the same buildings with the elderly at most risk. You want to talk about punishing those with medical problems?
Children are having as much problem or more so with the Flue than they do Covid, and I see no one barring kids from schools because of that disease.
This non stop fear mongering hysteria over Covid has been politically driven to defeat Trump, and has given the Left a supposed excuse to force their authoritarian control of the people.
Yes, we have all been saying that when Biden takes office, this Covid hysteria will all of a sudden be down played. He's not in office yet! When he is, I want you to look at the tough questions the press gives him compared to Trump. Any questions about Tony Bobulinski? Nahhh, what flavor ice cream Joe!
You might notice that the corrupt biased press and Democrat Party, and Social media censors gave Trump no credit for this unbelievable record speed of a vaccine. Nahhh, all they do is blame Trump for the same deaths going on all over the world.
FINALLY, you admitted children don't spread the disease very easily.
THAT WASN'T THE POINT OF MY POST! WE ALL KNEW THAT ALREADY.
The point, which you wholly MISSED was that IT DOESN'T MATTER. Why would you put children at risk? Is it any coincidence that Conservatives want to do that? No. They don't really care about people. YOU are the one spreading misinformation. Don't get all "high and mighty" and tell me that I'm the one "SPEWING DECEPTION."
Trump has never told people not to wear masks! He has consistently educated people to the fact that masks can help, but not to be forced on everyone, ESPECIALLY when these power hungry hypocrite politicians are constantly caught not wearing masks and ignoring their same authoritarian power trips.
People have always had the freedom to take risks in life. If we want to have family gatherings, WE WILL!
People who are at high risk of dying from Covid should be the ones taking the most care in not putting themselves in harms way.
No one is trying to down play masks and social distancing, or keeping people from wearing masks. We are the sane people in the room who understand that we can not shut down our economy, bankrupt our businesses, shut down our schools, when the vast vast vast majority of people will never die from Covid!
