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I can't get a job because the world is not an RBE. Under capitalism, it is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged for the average human to be a gullible mindless idiot. This is because if they were not, they would not accept that they are given the short end of the stick while those of borgeoise decent are placed on a pedestal simply for being born. I would not complain if life wasn't fair in the natural way that it isn't fair, but instead we live in a fabricated man made system that is designed specifically to hold me back and give everything to others arbitrarily despite the fact that they are in no way better than me. I am perfectly entitled to rant when people like lil pump are rich and famous despite the fact that I am 678576878 times better as a rapper or people like Ben Shapiro are listened to when I am 4897390769865 times more insightful and correct. The only reason they are ahead and I am behind is because they are stupid specifically, in order for an RBE to work it requires that people are not idiots, which means that in an RBE rappers with real skills would be successful and people who repeat "gucci gang" 50 times would not be, and people who are correct would be listened to rather than lying zionist shills who deliberately dumb down and spin every issue they talk about. Side: Yep
we live in a fabricated man made system that is designed specifically to hold me I am perfectly entitled to rant The only reason they are ahead and I am behind is because they are stupid specifically LOL!! That was great!! The whole thing, but the above are highlights!! Fuckin Waaa!!! Hahaha Life has some unfair cases, high and low. But from this post you seem to be right where you should be. I will definitely reference this when pointing out the pathetic jealousy and hatred at the root of the empty, failed shit you promote. My god, if I was jealous of the likes of lil pump, I would re-evaluate myself. Side: Yep
@Amarel Laugh it up, retard. This merely proves that you are so stupid that you literally will talk about merit one minute and then excuse the fact that literal human trash is being given millions of dollars by society while people with real skills and talents not to mention children are stuck in poverty and not allowed to live out their potential. You are so fucking stupid that you think capitalism is the magnum opus of civilization and that there can't possibly be anything better, ESPECIALLY not something based on scientific methodology rather than superstitious constructs of the mind. If you think I am where I should be, where do you think Lil Pump should be? Do you think he somehow "deserves" what he has more than I do? I am better than him in every way, and every other way at that. Side: Yep
If you think I am where I should be, where do you think Lil Pump should be? Idk. Did he rip off his lyrics from you? Is that what this is about? Did he steal all that money that people gave him in exchange for something they thought was worth the price? It’s so pathetic how entitled you are. There is nothing you can do that anyone finds valuable enough to trade you for, and you hate them for it. The fact that other people are capable of doing things that someone would trade them for only increases your frustration. Your assertion that in fact it is you who is superior has no basis beyond your own opinion, which no one values. Even if the world were wildly different, even if I were required to pay you to mumble into your computer mic, you wouldn’t be more valuable. You would only be a leech. Do you think he somehow "deserves" what he has more than I do? I don’t think a person has to do much to deserve more than you do. I am better than him in every way Not in any way that anyone values. And I think I will laugh it up, your worthless opinion notwithstanding. Side: Yep
They are pretty much just idiots being handed way more than they deserve. I’m inclined to agree. That’s why I don’t hand them anything. It’s not up to you or me or some benevolent ruler to determine how people spend thier money. They can give it to charity, thier kids, or some stupid rapper etc. It’s none of your business. Side: Yep
@Amarel I have been reading the recent threads around here and in all honesty I can see where this "evilnom" guy is coming from. Capitalism in no way rewards an artist for how meaningful or adeptly made their art is, but merely for mass appeal. It seems to me he is frustrated because he is working hard trying to be a rapper and he feels mainstream rap is intellectually vacuous and promotes the wrong type of people, which is perfectly understandable. You are telling him his opinion is worthless but it is also a matter of subjective opinion that so many people enjoy this Pump guy's music, what makes their opinion more valid? I would like to hear this guy rapping, I bet you he's better than Pump. Side: Yep
You can hear him on YouTube. Just ask him. It’s not up to capitalism to reward people. It’s up to someone who values what you are producing to pay you for it. I don’t value lil pump in the slightest, and I have lost nothing for his gain. I don’t begrudge the likes of lil pump because someone else with some other opinion gave up thier own money to make him rich. That’s a free economy, it’s hard but it is fair, even when products are stupid. Evil is frustrated, but not just because no one buys from him. He hates the system itself, he hates people who are valued by others, and he hates those others for their values. That’s what I find so disdainful. Side: Yep
I don’t value lil pump in the slightest, and I have lost nothing for his gain. I don’t begrudge the likes of lil pump Yet you begrudge evilnom for pointing out that he is an idiot who is in no way particularly deserving of millions of dollars compared to starving children or people with actual talent. You love capitalism so much that you assume someone must be a piece of shit if they point out that it often distributes vast amounts of resources arbitrarily to people who have done nothing to deserve profuse amounts of wealth while at the same time it creates abject poverty for people who have done nothing to deserve abject poverty. Your shameless verbal abuse directed at a struggling artist is quite disturbing. You have clearly never experienced poverty, else you might comprehend how frustrating it is to have nothing and watch these brain dead celebrities and people born into wealth galavanting about, never having to do any real work or contribute anything of substance to society in their lives. he hates people who are valued by others You are putting words in his mouth because you hate him. You hate him simply for being poor and recognizing that there are so many who have more than him who have done nothing to deserve it. I am willing to bet that you grew up in an upper middle class home or higher, and that your parents bought you a car when you were a teenager and paid for your college education and paid for your license, all the works. My mother kicked me out of the house when I was 15, I wasn't even old enough to drive and I was homeless. I had to scrape by, literally struggling just to survive, paying for all the stuff you were handed in life as a homeless kid. I am now an engineer who works with lasers and water jets, making aircraft parts and medical devices. I know what it's like to have nothing, and to see someone like lil pump and hate them. If you ask me, engineers should be payed more than boys who wear pink braids and rap about doing drugs! Side: Yep
@Swordfish Couldn't have said it better myself. I am glad to see someone new here who is respectable. If you want to see me rapping go to Luminiferous Aether on youtube. I have the lyrical aspect down but I'm still trying to get the resources to record something that sounds professional. Side: Yep
Yet you begrudge evilnom for pointing out that he is an idiot No, I begrudge evilnom for blaming the world for his own circumstances, and for attacking economic freedom as the culprit of his supposed injustice. who is in no way particularly deserving of millions If someone else gives up their own money for something that I am not willing to pay for, it is not my concern. Does that guy deserve the money the other guy gave him? I don't know, it's not stolen and it's not my money. compared to starving children significantly less with the worldwide rise in economic freedom. or people with actual talent No, I give my money to people with actual talent. You love capitalism so much that you assume someone must be a piece of shit if they point out that it often distributes vast amounts of resources arbitrarily Capitalism doesn't distribute resources, people trade them among each other. The process isn't arbitrary, it is derived from the aggregate of individual decisions. If evilnom had his way, resources truly would be distributed arbitrarily, with my resources going where he prefers. Arbitrariness is the characteristic of economic dictatorships. Of course evilnom doesn't want to actually coerce anyone, he just wants everyone to magically agree with his ignorant position and poor aesthetic tastes. It's pure fantasy. He isn't a piece of shit for his ignorance, he is a piece of shit for the willful manner in which he holds to it. Your shameless verbal abuse directed at a struggling artist is quite disturbing His status as a struggling artist does not put him above reproach. His ideas and presentation put him well within it. it creates abject poverty for people who have done nothing to deserve abject poverty. Again, economic freedom has reduced poverty more than any other economic model. This is a statistical and historical reality. Very few people deserve poverty. If a primitive hunter missed his target, he went hungry; not because he deserved to go hungry, but because that's life. The primitive hunter gatherer who sat around bitching about other hunter's good aim or lucky shot, rather than hunting, deserved to go hungry. You have clearly never experienced poverty This baseless assertion says more about your bias than about your understanding of me. This is an anonymous website, so you can't possibly know anything about me, let alone how much you've missed the mark. It's not wealth that fostered my love of economic freedom. But my personal experience isn't relevant to the issue. else you might comprehend how frustrating it is to have nothing and watch these brain dead celebrities and people born into wealth galavanting about I'm not without empathy for a person's plight. I am without empathy for a person who chooses blame over responsibility. This is evilnom's primary characteristic. You are putting words in his mouth because you hate him I don't hate him, I don't know him. But the character presented on this site is contemptible. You hate him simply for being poor and recognizing that there are so many who have more than him who have done nothing to deserve it Now who's putting words in mouths? I don't hate poor people, and I don't judge evilnom for his poverty. I judge him for his hatred of other people for their choices which have no effect on him. I judge him for crying that the world is specifically against him rather than seeing the deficiency in himself. Until he does, he won't improve as a person. I judge him for thinking that he is a better arbiter of other people's choices than they are. If he had any power to bring his bad ideas into reality, I likely would hate him. I am willing to bet that you grew up in an upper middle class home or higher, and that your parents bought you a car when you were a teenager and paid for your college education and paid for your license, all the works. I wish I could take that bet. My mother kicked me out of the house when I was 15, I wasn't even old enough to drive and I was homeless. That's your mother's fault. Not mine. Not society's. I had to scrape by, literally struggling just to survive, paying for all the stuff you were handed in life as a homeless kid. Your bias is showing. You don't know anything about me. I am now an engineer who works with lasers and water jets, making aircraft parts and medical devices. That's awesome. Your virtue isn't in your victimhood, it's in your response to it. While it's laudable, it's irrelevant to the subject here. I know what it's like to have nothing, and to see someone like lil pump and hate them. Lil pump didn't kick you out of your house. His money didn't come out of your pocket. Hating people like him was a waste of your time and effort. If you ask me, engineers should be payed more than boys who wear pink braids and rap about doing drugs! I'm inclined to agree. Which is why some of my money has gone toward the efforts of engineers, and none of it toward the efforts of lil pump. Side: Yep
I begrudge evilnom for blaming the world for his own circumstances Is poverty not a byproduct of capitalism? for attacking economic freedom It's not very free for the poor now is it? You are only free if you have money, and those with enough money can quite literally get away with anything. Indeed, for the 1% it is a very "free" system where they can buy entire political parties and even have people killed without suffering any consequence. Of course, for the working man who is stuck working for the 1% in order to feed himself and his family, and cannot take the risks necessary to "climb the ladder" it is not very free. Especially when he is being robbed by the state every month by force. I would argue that he is actually quite trapped by a fictional set of social constructs that are designed to benefit the 1% and keep him working to produce profit for them rather than himself. If someone else gives up their own money for something that I am not willing to pay for, it is not my concern. Does that guy deserve the money the other guy gave him? I don't know, it's not stolen and it's not my money. So you admit that capitalism is not meritocratic, splendid. Glad we got that sorted. Now you can stop insulting people for pointing it out. significantly less with the worldwide rise in economic freedom. The fact that you refer to capitalism as "economic freedom" proves that you were always privileged and thus given freedoms that those starving children were not given. Only the privileged could be narrow sighted and shallow enough to think that way. Capitalism doesn't distribute resources, people trade them among each other. The process isn't arbitrary, it is derived from the aggregate of individual decisions. What you are failing to consider is that those decisions are made within a social context of capitalism. Thus capital is what decides how resources are distributed and the very fact that we distribute them based on capital influences people's decision making process. The primary objective in capitalism is to make a profit, this being the driving force behind trade in a society heavily influences the nature of the trade. For instance, it encourages you to rip people off in every way possible because what is optimal for the capitalist is making the most profit you can make at the least expense. If evilnom had his way, resources truly would be distributed arbitrarily, with my resources going where he prefers. He mentioned something about "scientific methodology". It appears he's a Marxist such as myself. Anywho, your resources arbitrarily go where the state or your boss prefers under capitalism. Of course evilnom doesn't want to actually coerce anyone, he just wants everyone to magically agree with his ignorant position and poor aesthetic tastes. It sounds to me that you're just putting words in his mouth because you don't understand what he is really advocating. It's remarkable to me that you can make so many assumptions about someone and their views just because they criticize your perfect, flawless system of "economic freedom" yet get your panties in a bunch when someone points out the probable fact that you are a privileged lad who fails to comprehend the problems that capitalism creates, because for you it has created nothing but a free ride. Again, economic freedom has reduced poverty more than any other economic model. Poverty is a human invention. What has always existed is scarcity, and capitalism embraces scarcity and pushes all the scarcity down to the working class while a few privileged cunts such as yourself hog all the resources. This is how "poverty" gets made, my dear. If a primitive hunter missed his target, he went hungry; not because he deserved to go hungry, but because that's life. The primitive hunter gatherer who sat around bitching about other hunter's good aim or lucky shot, rather than hunting, deserved to go hungry. Yes, but that is not at all analogous to what evilnom is doing. Because as he already said, if life was not fair for it's natural "survival of the fittest" reasons he would not complain. But instead life is not fair because of a system of human invention which arbitrarily hands a free ride to those who are not fit and holds the fit back from reaching their potential. This baseless assertion says more about your bias than about your understanding of me. Your own baseless assertions prove your bias towards capitalism and your hatred for anyone who tries to take away your free ride on the backs of the working class. Notice how you have made at least a dozen assumptions about evilnom and are so biased that you refer to capitalism as "economic freedom". It's not wealth that fostered my love of economic freedom. It's not wealth that fostered your love of a system based on personal profit and privileges for the wealthy? Side: Yep
Is poverty not a byproduct of capitalism? No. Poverty proceeded capitalism. The idea that poverty is not the norm is a byproduct of capitalism. It's not very free for the poor now is it? It's not slavery. Whether you are free depends on whether other people compel or constrain you. It has nothing to do with the non-coercive circumstances of your life. You are only free if you have money That's incorrect. Freedom is not the ability to act, it's the absence of someone halting or compelling action. I would argue that he is actually quite trapped by a fictional set of social constructs that are designed to benefit the 1% and keep him working to produce profit for them rather than himself. Yeah. You argue it all the time, but never successfully. No one is beholden, except by promise, to the person they decide to trade with. Nor does me paying you make me a villain. So you admit that capitalism is not meritocratic As I've consistently maintained, if only you would read, capitalism is better for merit than for any other system. Your simplistic anecdotes to the contrary notwithstanding. Life happens, and is often not fair from an individual's perspective. But economic freedom is the most fair system ever implemented in an unfair world. The fact that you refer to capitalism as "economic freedom" proves that you were always privileged and thus given freedoms that those starving children were not given. You have some things to learn about proofs. "Economic Freedom" is synonymous with "Capitalism". There are less starving children because of increases in economic freedom, following the USSR getting the fuck out of the way (making it ok for India and China to increase economic freedom) If I could, I would bring economic freedom to the rest of the starving children. Only the privileged could be narrow sighted and shallow enough to think that way. You know a lot about me that isn't true. Your arrogant conceit affirms my gratitude that people like you aren't in a position to affect me at all. What you are failing to consider is that those decisions are made within a social context of capitalism. Thus capital is what decides how resources are distributed and the very fact that we distribute them based on capital influences people's decision making process. I wish you would read a relevant book so you could start to know what you're talking about. Would you like recommendations? This computer that I am typing on? Is capital. If I get a small business loan (the way most business owners did) for a 3d printer, I'm the newest manufacturer in town. If you make a living selling wood carvings, then your whittling knife is capital. Capital flows in varying degrees of concentration in various sectors. The economic history of capitalism has seen the means of production become more diffuse over time. That's the main reason why only the deceitful and the ignorant want to be rid of it. I don't take you for deceitful. it encourages you to rip people off in every way possible You're providing an example of why short run thinkers make bad businessmen. Companies act dishonestly, that's true. But consumers and competition inevitably discover this and the dishonest actor suffers. There is a disincentive for dishonesty, even more so with the mass availability of information. Such high degrees of forced honesty have opened the door for things such as ride share and air B&B. Such trust in strangers with so little negative effect could never have been heard of before. what is optimal for the capitalist is making the most profit you can make at the least expense Making the most profit is optimal. This isn't because of capitalism, this is because of life. If a business wishes to be competitive in winning over buyers (since we can't force them either), it must reduce cost, so that it can reduce price. Now more poor people can afford more, thanks to profit. There are less poor people than ever before, thanks to profit. There are more rich people than ever before, thanks to profit. The poor are richer than ever before, thanks to profit. Incredibly, there are more free things now than ever before, thanks to profit. No one who is looking at the history and the facts can ever again condemn capitalism on false zero-sum-game arguments. You have to look elsewhere. your resources arbitrarily go where the state or your boss prefers under capitalism. It's true that taxes forcefully take my resources for things beyond my preference, but you'll find capitalists want less taxes and less tax funded boondoggles. As for the rest, my resources go where I direct them. To claim otherwise is an extraordinary claim with no evidence whatsoever. You don't even know my circumstances. It sounds to me that you're just putting words in his mouth because you don't understand what he is really advocating. Disagreement does not equal misunderstanding. It's remarkable to me that you can make so many assumptions about someone That's rich. the probable fact that you are a privileged lad who fails to comprehend the problems that capitalism creates, because for you it has created nothing but a free ride. Like I said, rich. It's not wealth that has fostered my love of capitalism. Get it through your skull; attacking your assumptions about the personal life of an anonymous online opponent only speaks to your bias. You know little about economics and nothing about me. Poverty is a human invention Tell it to the cavemen, who lived in opulent wealth. Scarcity has always existed. The formal institutions that protect economic freedom are those that protect property rights for the masses rather than the few, and the rule of law with no one above it. These are relatively new ideas, as is economic freedom. These institutions and the capitalism they enable have made scarcity less of a problem for less people than ever before in human history. Your singing Marx's tune which was false when he said it, and the emperors new clothes today. Because as he already said, if life was not fair for it's natural "survival of the fittest" reasons he would not complain. His bitching doesn't become justified just because he is ignorant of how the world works. Especially not when he refuses to learn. But instead life is not fair because of a system of human invention...holds the fit back from reaching their potential. No it doesn't. Life can get in the way. But you/FM are held back because you are unfit. The problem is not the system, it's you. Change yourself. Your own baseless assertions prove your bias towards capitalism and your hatred for anyone who tries to take away your free ride on the backs of the working class. Now you're just trolling. My assertions about capitalism are rooted in economic theory, economic history, and statistics. Your baseless assertions concern my personal life which you cannot know anything about. Personal experience is not relevant on a site like this. And besides, I get called a liar by you two retards enough as it is. Notice how you have made at least a dozen assumptions about evilnom Quote all twelve motherfucker. However many you find, you'll show that they are based on his behavior on this site. I said I don't hate him because I don't know him. His ideas and character on this site is what is so contemptible. Side: Yep
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