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Would you support a American theocracy?

Simple would you support the American government becoming a theocracy of any religion if yes please specify which religion and why?

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Side Score: 5
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Side Score: 6

Yep. Make it a Christian nation. Christianity built this nation and is the bulwark against Islam, the cult of death. Some philosophy will run and dominate this country. You can call it a religion, you can call it a philosophy, you can call it whatever, but the fact is, as the secularists gain power, they are letting Islamists into the West in mass and causing terrorism on a global scale. Secularists have no discernment on this type of issue overall. Anything goes, even child brides, covering women in oppressive ninja suits, and killing gays, just as long as Christianity is opposed. Oh, that's working out great. The leftist hatred of Christianity is why the West has become the violent, chaotic hell hole we see today. They want no rules and "tolerance for all", yet have some twisted mindset to hand it to the strictest and most un-liberal belief system on planet Earth, all in the name of blind "multi-culturism", never mind that Islam is commanded to conquer us by migration, outbreed us, and kill us or force us to pay jizya or convert once it gains numbers in its eschatology. Evangelicals may not be perfect, but they built the most prosperous, strongest societies in the history of mankind. It was on the up and up until recently, when the left decided laws and common sense were to be mindlessly labeled as some form of evil bigotry.

Side: Yes
Iacov(68) Clarified
1 point

So how would you treat those who follow a religion that was neither Christianity or Islam?

Side: Yes

If you really have to, then this is the list of acceptable religions I've compiled thus far - (quoting myself from another debate)

My list of religions that are not bad includes - Sikhism, Buddism, Advaita Hinduism, Taoism, Jainism, Deism/Atheism (which aren't really religions, but formally are), New Age mysticism among some others that I've not yet decided on.

Most of these are Eastern, though. Seems like you didn't have any variety there.

Additions so far - Catholic Christianity, LaVeyan Satanism

Side: Yes
Iacov(68) Clarified
1 point

What about Asatru Paganism? Is there a reason you wouldn't find it acceptable or are you simply not familiar with the religion?

Side: Yes

No, I don't think I've ever heard of that.

It is welcome if it does not explicitly promote violence or ignorance. And if it isn't too annoying, on the borderline of promoting those things (which sweeps away many other sections of Hinduism.)

Just because some people need a deity over them, and attacking that isn't an interest of mine. Anything dogmatic doesn't serve those purposes solely for which religions can be excused, so they're unacceptable for a theocracy.

Side: Yes
3 points

Nope. Let everyone believe what they want to believe. The moment one religion holds the reigns of power they either sweep that freedom away or chip away at it. Why would we ever want that in the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Side: No
1 point

Because Christianity created the home of the brave. Every single right given to women or minorities was through an appeal to the conscience of Christianity. No other civilization ever got there, even still today. Asian, African, and Middle Eastern "non Christian" nations still view women as far inferior, their race as the "master race", and tolerate no foreign ideas from the outside. The nations people try to escape to today are those which were shaped by Christianity over the scope of centuries and time. And we've seen what the secular philosophy gets us. Chaos and violence in the streets.

https://www.plimoth.org/what-see-do/17th-century-english-village/faith-pilgrims

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChristianityintheUnitedStates

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2790/ europeans-converting-to-islam

Side: Yes

No, America has never been a theocracy because that would mean forcing people to believe something. We've never had that until the political correctProgressive Secularists came along today.

Today we have a secularocracy whereby if every state does not agree with Gay marriage, they have no choice. THEY ARE FORCED TO CHANGE THEIR MARRIAGE LAWS TO FIT THE DOGMA OF POLITICAL CORRECT SECULARISTS.

Progressive Secularists are now trying to force every public school to allow boys in our daughter's bathrooms.

Progressive Secularists are trying to disarm Americans.

Progressive Secularists have censored the freedom for communities to have a nativity scene on public land in honor of our Christian heritage.

Progressive Secularists have censored the freedom of communities to choose to have a school prayer (with no child forced to pray).

I laugh at the Left's hpocritical lies of how Christians want to make America a theocracy while Progressives themseves are the ones forcing their ideology on everyone else.

Side: No
AveSatanas(4415) Disputed Banned
1 point

Today we have a secularocracy whereby if every state does not agree with Gay marriage, they have no choice. THEY ARE FORCED TO CHANGE THEIR MARRIAGE LAWS TO FIT THE DOGMA OF POLITICAL CORRECT SECULARISTS.

No theyre forced to change it according to the constitution you claim to jack off too.

Progressive Secularists are now trying to force every public school to allow boys in our daughter's bathrooms.

That has literally nothing to do with religion

Progressive Secularists are trying to disarm Americans.

That is blatantly false and has nothing to do with religion

Progressive Secularists have censored the freedom for communities to have a nativity scene on public land in honor of our Christian heritage.

Again, it violates the constitution which you claim to jack off to. Also christian heritage according to YOU not to actual history.

Progressive Secularists have censored the freedom of communities to choose to have a school prayer (with no child forced to pray).

Yet they upheld the right to have a moment of silence where kids can freely pray. They can freely pray whenever they want. But you cant have public schools as a branch of the government be holding prayers. That is the most blatant first amendment violation ever. Plus you cant make kids sit through hearing a prayer even if they dont have to participate.

If a school had a muslim opening prayer but your christian kid didnt have to participate i bet you a million bucks youd still throw a hissy fit.

I laugh at the Left's hpocritical lies of how Christians want to make America a theocracy while Progressives themseves are the ones forcing their ideology on everyone else.

God forbid they force their ideology of complete and utter indifferent treatment toward all religions equally on the masses. Oh what a terrible thing.

Youre such a whiny bitch its incredible. go back to your safe space your stupid is showing

Side: Yes
Iacov(68) Clarified
1 point

I was really happy with this and I agreed with you completely until I got to very last sentence.

Side: Yes
1 point

What would you call this place then?? You couldn't call it America, you couldn't go by America's Constitution any longer. The original American's (aside from the REAL original Americans, the Indians.), came here to escape religious persecution! To escape the churches that had them thrown in prison for not paying the government (the churches), taxes. Anyone who wants to go back to that should move to a theocratic country .... hard to find, today, unless you believe in Islam. Why? because they don't work without fanaticism! Religious power MUST be controlled because religious power is the easiest corrupted power in the world! Put the fear of a god in peoples minds and they will do ANYTHING to keep from it's wrath! Want another world war? Pit one "god" against another!

"Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious conviction." [Blaise Pascal]

Religious conservatism: Our bridge to the 11th century!

Side: No