... Most people would say it is human just because it is the offspring of a human, and they would never call it a fetus because they're sensitive to that word.
... That's what they all say, unless a mother is dying then SAVE THE BABIEZ!!!!!!!!!
... I don't know if anyone could agree to that.
... This one I don't quite understand.
... Isn't context always valid?
"It can and does occur, and in some instances transitioning may actually make reproduction permanently impossible for the persons concerned."
Well, I guess that's their choice. Personally, I don't think it will matter a lot to the population as a whole if transgender people can't procreate because in America we really don't need any more children. There are many who can be adopted and want to be loved. I guess in other countries it matters.
Yes, sorry. I'm just used to calling her a he because everyone else does. He is physically a boy but he identifies as a girl. He shaves and when his parents aren't around, he wears skirts. I've never seen him come to school in a skirt because his parents want him to be a boy. Now he's in Therapy and the Mental Hospital or maybe just the Mental Hospital. He's actually been there since last Friday and still hasn't contacted us back or anything so we don't know how he's doing. I barely know him but he's awesome and I'm really worried!
You mean according to them? Well, they just don't care... or maybe they do. But I think it should be protected because sometimes it is necessary. Some people who are already born, no matter the age, still deserve to live as much as the fetus. But the fetus isn't born. It hasn't started breathing yet. It can't think. Therefore, I think already born humans are more important than an unborn fetus.
"Evolution is a theory; it cannot be proven.
Evolution may be proven sometime in the future.
-1 because you contradict yourself."
Actually, it isn't a contradiction. He said it cannot be proven yet (YET) but maybe in the future we will be smart enough to. For now we are faithful...
There is NO moral excuse for cutting up a baby's penis/vagina. It's not your body. I honestly get sick when I think about it being legal and actually happening. I'm afraid of thinking about the screams of the baby and how the child will feel later on in life. Good thing it's legal to sue your parents for it later.
It's not right to FORCE someone to be something else. Unless they ask for it. But what we should do is force everyone who sells junk food and ruins our veggies to keep those pesticides and other substances away from our food so we can choose to be healthy on our own. It's hard enough for me to keep healthy near donuts...
Nah. It really depends actually. While the adult has more experience in the world, the kid is learning far more in school. Some people are just close-minded and their kids are open-minded. It depends on the person. But gosh, I hate it when people say kids are dumb and adults are great.
I change my mind. I didn't take into consideration the difference between smart and wise. The older you are the wiser you may be, but sometimes the younger generation knows best.
Not if someone I love was burning in Hell. I'd be one of those burning in Hell but I know how I'd feel about the ones I care for being hurt. I guess God wouldn't give me much of an option... I heard several Christians talk about how wonderful it would be to be in Heaven watching everyone else burn.
I can't believe people actually think being pregnant is better than being dead. If you're dead, you're either in peace or in a heaven of sorts (depending on your beliefs). Those are both better than child-birth. It's not always less painful, but being pregnant has consequences and being dead doesn't.
"I hope there is some little piece of honesty in your questions here. It's really hard to tell since you seem to think that if somebody died for you, they sacrificed nothing. I guess that's the atheistic ultimatum, that life is nothing and nothing is sacrificed if you give your life trying to save somebody else's life."
Yes, I am being honest here. I t's not that I think that, I think that just about GOD. Because God didn't die so he didn't sacrifice himself like you all say. You think very little of life it seems...
"I'm going to believe you have enough decency in your bones to appreciate it when somebody sacrifices their life for you. You were created with a body. God took on a body like yours to save your body from Hell, He died in your place to save you from what your wrongs against Him demand...Hell. People are threatened with Hell because they don't care that they have gone against and away from God and He has no place for them other than Hell."
I would very much appreciate it but I would feel so terrible if they did. And if he saved me from Hell I guess all those threats of Hell you Christians are always talking about are false.
"Think. Don't let those devils make you stop thinking and get stuck accusing God of not being good. God is good, always, and He loves you."
I did think. That's how I became an Atheist. I also read the Bible, both old and new testament.
"Repent of ALL your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ in His bodily resurrection, receive Him by faith as your Savior and be saved from Hell. He took what you deserve when He took your death. If that's not good enough for you, then you take your own death as a sinner and it never ends in Hell."
I know you mean good but I really don't believe you still. It's not that being "saved" isn't good enough for me, it's just that I don't see God the same way you do. And that's OK.
"So if I am condemned to die, and you step up and die in my place, you sacrificed nothing when you suffered and died to save me from it? Hell is continuation of dying, you are dying now and need to be saved from Hell. God the Father sent God the Son, who He gave as the payment for your sin so you don't have to pay in Hell. Hell justifies the existence of sinners. We are all sinners, God loves us so much He became a man and died in our place."
No, that is not at all true. I was talking about God/Jesus. He didn't truly die so there was no sacrifice, you see?
Condition...? As in what? Being human? God is the fault of all of this and christians technically say this unintentionally all the time. You basically say "God made us perfectly in His image but it's our fault we're bad" is a contradiction and should not be taken seriously.
I'm not really all that interested in the links you sent me... for now. I don't understand how being all for Equality just under a different term makes you racist and hate transgender people. It makes no sense to me at all and I must say I am not like that at all. Only a fool will say that about me without knowing me and I've met many.
Just to let you know, I read everything you said and I don't fully understand it all so I tried my best to stay with you.
I must say, I really appreciate your calm, kind manner.
"We need feminism because women are indeed still oppressed, albeit it in somewhat different ways. Just because women are less oppressed and discriminated against doesn't mean it is gone altogether."
Okay, and as a young woman myself, I would like to know what ways we are oppressed because I haven't noticed. Unless being expected to look a certain way, either being a slut or a Goody-Goody, and needing to cover up or else I'll get raped or something is part of it...
"here are egalitarian forms of feminism. In fact, the most prevalent forms of feminism are egalitarian."
Oh, cool. So I can call myself Egalitarian?
"It has been a long time since the most prevalent forms of feminism was against egalitarianism."
Ah, I see. It's just a minor amount now. That's what I get for being home-schooled XD But to be serious, I really did do better home-schooled at the time. I was having issues...
Aye. But I don't want to be associated with the modern day feminist (no offence) --> the ones who hate men, lie about rape, etc. I don't see why we NEED feminism anymore if women are no longer oppressed. But I call myself an Egalitarian to let people know I support equality without complaining about one gender. When I say "Feminist" I don't usually mean "Wanting equality for all" no do I hear that from others. Feminist was originally for women anyway. Hence the word "Feminine" in it.
But just to be clear, I am not against all Feminists and Feminism. Just the majority of the modern ones because that's all I see.
"We didn't used to have the firm science. The science is in. Human persons are created at conception. Period. "
If that were true, I think everyone would be on your side /maybe/.
"Pro-life stance is much better stated that all human beings once conceived have the right to complete their lives."
But think of the rape-victims! They have the right as well. Two wrongs don't make a right on both sides.
"The moment that the baby is delivered, then killing it intentionally is called murder, and is a felony punishable by imprisonment or even death. So in the space of a few inches and a couple seconds we go from a "choice", and an abortion to a murder. It doesn't follow any sort of logic."
But abortion isn't killing an already born human...
" We don't wish to "control" anyone. We wish civil rights for human persons of every age group."
Me too. But when you force a kid to have another kid, that's control.
"An adult person already has a right to abstain from sexual activity if they don't like the potential bilogical result. They don't deserve additional rights for bad decision making."
I kind of agree. But I would feel a lot better about being on your side if people would adopt all the other American children that are struggling. (+ rape victims)
Alright. Let me get my points through then.
First of all, the beginning of your post makes it confusing to tell whether or not you're Theist or Atheist. But that's beside the point.
"Bigoted Non-Christians who judge the Christian faith and call their God names, have the tolerance of ISIS. You are the most intolernt closed minded bigots I've ever seen."
Probably because of the intolerant, bigotted, and closed-minded Christians who won't leave us alone.
"60 years ago even Atheists respected Christians and understood all the good that Churches do for the needy. They did not fear our Christian heritage and would never be so bigoted and hateful to call God monstrous and psychopathic. Those names could be given to the supporters of the abortion trade. Live in your dream world. Your so called goodness is diaolical evil."
The only reason Atheists "respected" Christians in those old days is probably because they'd get killed if they spoke their minds. As for the churches, they no longer give to the needy for the most part. Maybe some but not most. The only reason I say such things about God is because the Bible depicts him that way. But it is sugar-coded. I don't know why you keep mentioning abortion but okay.
Abortion was never called "good". It is a necessary evil.
"Now please do what you always do and lie about how you do not agree with late term abortions, etc."
I never lied. I spoke with feelings. But for God's sake, can you please make up your mind on abortion? I have no idea what you really feel about it!
"I won't be replying again. You truly are a waste of time. Your denials of who you are and what you support is mindless."
If I'm a waste of time, why did you waste your time replying to me?
I thought and researched everything on this topic so your "argument" is invalid.
Now, I will not be expecting a reply back.
Heh, sorry. I'm just new to this Atheism thing. I've been getting into arguments with Christians who won't leave me alone so I'm a little harsh sometimes...
And I love everything else you said about this topic. You stayed calm the whole time too!
