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3 points

if the dictator was good yes, problem is, there is a 1 in a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance of the dictator being good

1 point

you make so very very weary.....

you do know this kind of whinny shit storm is exactly why every other country is embarrassed to be seen in the same room as America for the last couple of decades?

and while were on the topic of him being a communist did you also know hes a Muslim? and went to a racist church? and is the anti Christ? also he part of the Illuminati, wants to eat baby's, is creating death panels, and oh, free mason's, just throwing it out there

1 point

probably many, wont be getting to them in a very long time though

1 point

they can have no stance on human rights the same way anti/pro abortion groups don't have to have stances on animal rights

3 points

the hint is in the name PETA = people for the ethical treatment of animals

its like expecting the postman to collect my trash

3 points

"Although I don't support Palin, she did have experience as Governor."

if i am not mistaken, didn't she resign 18 months prior to her end of term?

2 points

ooh dear god, is she actually going for it?

please tell me this is some kind of sick and twisted joke

1 point

"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it. " - Voltaire

0 points

if holly wood is to believed, that would end badly, and Hollywood would never lie.

but seriously, its probably a very bad idea.

1 point

Glenn beck is whatever hes getting paid to be. case and point, the gold company he was being funded by

http://mediamatters.org/research/200912020029

1 point

as long as Sarah Palin is in the republican party and their is more then a 00.000000000000000000001% chance she might become president, i will never vote republican, and if she became vice president the risk would have been to high

3 points

they need to make that into a song parody

"Another communist country bites the dust!"

but ya, woot and all, but we don't know what reform might lead the Cubans to, could be something worse then communism...like..super communism..is that a thing? that's a thing right? fuck it im trademarking that shit

1 point

trust me, no matter how sound your logic is, on the matter of Muslims, conservatives only see OMG TERRORISTS HELP US AHHH!!!!!

1 point

actually there is 1 that is unforgivable

Mark 3:22-30

"he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"

Matthew 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men"

this is actually what made me convert from being a Christian, it pretty much means that if you say, or even think that god could not forgive even once for a split MOMENT, then your going to head, so yeah, the biggest crime in Christianity is THINKING.

EDIT: some mistakes.

1 point

have you ever tried making it rain in a strip club with pieces of gold? it leaves bruises, that's my excuse in court anyway

http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/scrooge-mcduck-make-it-rain.jpg

1 point

the guy who invented tetris got jack shit, if I'm not mistaken, and the guy who made the AK-47 got shit all

1 point

depends really, if the Germans got the japs to attack Britain instead of the Americans, Britain would have been defeated, there is no doubt in my mind about that, even though we had a smashing air force it wouldn't have been enough to defeat the Nazis and the japs. but we would probably get back our independence if the soviets won against the Germans, although if the soviets did win by themselves then they might have tried to claim Britain for their own. and if I'm not mistaken the Americans convinced Canada to join, although i might be wrong about that one.

and i must disagree with the statement "we were doing fine" we had been chased out of mainland Europe and British soil was held by the Germany.

http://jersey.com/english/discoverjersey/occupationtoliberation/theoccupationofjersey/pages/default.aspx

and we cant forget the humiliating defeat of Singapore

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/fall_of_singapore.htm

i guess really we could never know

1 point

"shows a change over recent year."

this is what i said.

"Merseyside Police said in Croxteth and Norris Green there has been a 23% drop in firearms discharges since then."

and this is what the article said

so yes, violence has been decreasing,

"Meanwhile, anti-social behavior in the area decreased by 30% between April 2006 and April 2009 and violent crime dropped by 34% for the same period. "

(from the same article)

1 point

admittedly that is a very good evidence, i found this that shows a change over recent year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8216113.stm

1 point

when the fuck was it a mosque? its a community center with a area for Muslims to pray.

1 point

thats why is said "gun related" :)

and i would rather be stabbed in the gut then shot in it , but hey, thats just me :)

1 point

fuck no, he wanted to carry on WW2 with the Russians, he was a psychopath, although admittedly what we needed to beat the Germans.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209041/Operation-unthinkable-How-Churchill-wanted-recruit-defeated-Nazi-troops-drive-Russia-Eastern-Europe.html

1 point

if you bothered reading my argument you would notice i said gun related violence, and did not cover increase in all cases of violence, which the article you linked tackles.

the US has a higher murder rate then the UK

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

and ill also relink the amount of murders in the us with firearms compared with the rest of the world

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

1 point

"create more violence."

this is one of the only parts i disagree with.

the restrictions on guns in the UK are huge and we have very few gun related violence incidents

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm#map

"the Second Amendment was intended to supply the nation with guns if the current government oversteps its authority with exorbitant laws of tyranny through the elimination of freedom and liberty."

you have got to remember this was ages ago, when the government wasn't very strong, and a rebellion was possible, its not in the US today i believe.

(I'm tired so i might have read some things in the wrong context)

(EDIT: and heres something i just found, don't know how accurate it is

though)

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms

4 points

don't know how accurate this site is, but it gives a good idea of what hes done

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ promises/

seems hes doing alright so far

1 point

can someone tell me what the videos saying? my sound is a bit screwed

1 point

its glenn beck what do you expect?

find a better source then glenn beck and well talk,

i shall remind you that he belives hes a messenger of god

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0421/beck-god-gave-me-a-plan/

0 points

http://www.britannia.com/celtic/wales/facts/

http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html#Ao

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_inventions_and_discoveries

fuck you we have

"Long may she reign:

May she defend our laws,

And ever give us cause

To sing with heart and voice"

well done you can spit out some useless song. shes a danger to our freedom in the way that she can, if I'm not mistaken,

· declare war and send troops abroad;

· to make international and European treaties;

· to make appointments and award honors;

· to make major changes to the structure of government

that to me, is a blatant insult to the people. and no amount of titles should ever make her opinion and choices more important then the average citizen

2 points

"would mean confusion and pubic unrest in England"

good fuck the English, us Welsh, Scottish and northern Irish will get along just fine without some lady sucking up our money.

shes a hamper to our freedom.

1 point

homosexual families have every right to adopt children in fact according to a recent study

"however, they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression"

so yeah, gay families raise children better then straight families.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html#ixzz0u4FujqPT

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/ 0,8599,1994480,00.html

2 points

maholLinder knows to much....QUICKLY!!!! SILENCE HIM!!!! ATTACK MY FLYING MONKEY MINIONS!!!!!!!

1 point

unless you can prove a religion is right, then no, because even if i say ive "embraced it" i wont really have, because i wont believe in it without proper proof.

1 point

the chair, it has brought the world joys for many centuries, and has provided rest and comfort for people across all the world

1 point

i think that most religions are fairly irrational, a lot of the times they do harm, do i think people shouldn't be allowed to have religious beliefs? no, they can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't effect me or other peoples way of life, but when people like the one in the videos start trying to force their ideology on to people, then theirs a problem.

1 point

yet, i bet we both knew Africa was a Continent right?

its been shown before you don't need to be smart or right to make money.

some of the greatest and most creative people have died poor.

Nikola Tesla

Harvey Ball, (he created the smiley face, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JN5N5r9mbo0/SYZCuGMf6YI/AAAAAAAAACM/Imd-Qm5LN9I/s400/Harvey_Ball.jpg )he only got $45 for his invention which has been sold millions of times.

and Socrates.

2 points

no they're stupid because they are, palin didn't know Africa was a Continent, bush helped alienate America from the rest of the world, and Glenn beck makes little to no sense.

3 points

no.

but yes only in extreme cases, and only if we can prove the person is guilty without a doubt.

3 points

don't worry, from a British perspective, after bush, Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, nothing could make your country look worse.

3 points

depends what you mean by normal,

where i live they arnt "normal" as in common, but where i live neither are blacks, should i treat blacks differently? nope.

besides, being gay is genetic, and natural, there are many examples of animals in nature being gay.

and many of the worlds greatest people have been homosexual

freddie mecury

leonardo da vinchie was suspected of being homosexual

richard the lion heart

to name a few

3 points

we lived millions of years apart. we know this from fossils, and the fact their are no human fossils dating back as far as dinosaur fossils

0 points

"civilized gathering in the world"

chavs

need i say more?

3 points

well, if they hadn't around 2 million American soldiers would have died taking over japan, as well as many Russians, and from a military and political standpoint, you'd be a idiot not to drop it.

1 point

i know what you mean, but morals or different for different people, and i don't believe in forcing my beliefs onto other people

1 point

heres some arguments for abortion.

Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester, when a fetus cannot exist independent of the mother. As it is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord, its health is dependent on her health, and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb.

The concept of person hood is different from the concept of human life. Human life occurs at conception, but fertilized eggs used for in vitro fertilization are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Is this murder, and if not, then how is abortion murder?

Adoption is not an alternative to abortion, because it remains the woman's choice whether or not to give her child up for adoption. Statistics show that very few women who give birth choose to give up their babies - less than 3% of white unmarried women and less than 2% of black unmarried women.

Abortion is a safe medical procedure. The vast majority of women - 88% - who have an abortion do so in their first trimester. Medical abortions have less than 0.5% risk of serious complications and do not affect a woman's health or future ability to become pregnant or give birth

In the case of rape or incest, forcing a woman made pregnant by this violent act would cause further psychological harm to the victim. Often a woman is too afraid to speak up or is unaware she is pregnant, thus the morning after pill is ineffective in these situations.

Abortion is not used as a form of contraception. Pregnancy can occur even with responsible contraceptive use. Only 8% of women who have abortions do not use any form of birth control, and that is due more to individual carelessness than to the availability of abortion

The ability of a woman to have control of her body is critical to civil rights. Take away her reproductive choice and you step onto a slippery slope. If the government can force a woman to continue a pregnancy, what about forcing a woman to use contraception or undergo sterilization?

Teenagers who become mothers have grim prospects for the future. They are much more likely to leave of school; receive inadequate prenatal care; rely on public assistance to raise a child; develop health problems; or end up divorced

Like any other difficult situation, abortion creates stress. Yet the American Psychological Association found that stress was greatest prior to an abortion, and that there was no evidence of post-abortion syndrome.

personally, i think it should be a choice, why should someone else, who has no idea what a person is feeling have the ability to make a decision for them? although i believe abortion is always a very bad choice, and shouldn't be considered, but it should still be a option.

2 points

"Precisely why they were good candidates"

ill refer you to my comment on how palin didn't know that Africa was a continent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWZHTJsR4Bc

2 points

trust me, people with a lot less of a reasone have won that award.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18382_the-6-most-baffling-nobel- prizes-ever-awarded.html

1 point

ahh...well...there goes my argument...while i try to think of a new argument wacth this video to the end

http://www.viciouspotato.net/

1 point

that doesn't reduce the fact that its the largest increase since march 2000.

and i would rather have a temporary increase then none at all.

and the economy is definitely recovering. slowly but surely

1 point

they might have done something i liked, but not much, since their against a lot of what i believe in.

and if they were elected, even though it doesn't seem physically possible, America would become definitely become a lot more alienated, every European i have talked despises McCain and palin. and most Europeans think the hard right in America is a joke.

2 points

yes lets let the person who didn't know Africa was a Continent become vice president. /face-palm

there was a lot of infighting between the 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWZHTJsR4Bc

letting Sarah palin have any amount of real power is incredibly dangerous.

2 points

well, put a welshman in the same group as a englishman, I DARE YOU! it is very dangerous to call a welshman a englishman.

1 point

hell would need to exist, and since there is no factual evidence for a hell, there is no Reasoner to take it into a political equation,

2 points

"Unless you back this up with some sources, I refuse to believe such nonsense."

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0415483620100604

google search is your friend

"You know why they failed? Because back then, people had larger brains."

nice argument, maybe you can use your own brain next time.

1 point

seeing a gold doesn't have a opposite this whole thing is irrelevant, and compared to Bush and the rest of the bat shit crazy republicans (Beck, Palin, McCain.) hes a good prez

1 point

how is the UK 161 and US 159?

and no, the US wont be placed in the top list of dictatorial states anytime soon, or am i missing something?

1 point

everyone? what are you on about? most of the educated Greeks knew the earth was spherical. the Native Americans knew it. and so did many medieval scholars. pretty much everyone did, the thought of "everyone thought the earth was flat" is a myth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

"These people wrote first hand accounts of what they saw and heard" so if i write about how i owned the world and then made puppies fly out of the air, it might be true?

"No, so normally you trust historical accounts written by people who lived in that period of time." the bible isn't a historical account. most of the historic texts about Jesus and co, described him as a "troublemaker" and didn't describe his miracles. and as Ive said time and time again, the bible is full of contradictions, making any "historic account" in it unlikely and flimsy

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/102/

1 point

"Also, you say the Bible has contradictions? Where? Until you point them out to me, I think this is completely untrue."

http://www.project-reason.org/bibleContra_big.pdf

enough contradictions for you? or do you need more?

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm

now explain.

http://www.notjustatheory.com/

and the real meaning of "theory" in scientific terms.

1 point

it is believed that these organisms came from a meteor that hit earth, and unlike creation, there's plenty of evidence for evolution. we have already observed micro-evolution, natural selection and fossil records. Evolution has been a developing field of research for the past 200 years, and is supported by science, and creationists has shown nothing to prove their beliefs.

1 point

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her" - Deuteronomy 15:11-12

"to teh women he said: i will greatly increase your pain in childbearing: with pain you will give birth to children. your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you" -Genesis 3:16

If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." (Deuteronomy)

Heaven is to be inhabited by 144,000 virgin men who have not been "defiled" by women. (RE 14:1-4) [One wonders how this squares with God's command to, "Be fruitful and multiply...(Genesis )]

(war or peace?)

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

1 point

as a welsh man, any team that playing against england ill be cheering on. remember being down with some mates, all watching the game (england verses US). went wild when green fumbled the ball into the goal, dam English chavs.

1 point

my cat acts as if it owns the place, my dogs on the other hand are lovable hug able logs of fur.

if my cat bites me it draws blood, if my dog bites me, it like being bitten by a oven mitt, cause dogs like to play, unlike cats.

1 point

it means i believe he wouldn't have bothered with any divine intervention, ever. or if he did, it would have been retarded....well actually...now that i look at the bible....

1 point

TELL ME THE NAME OF THIS MYSTERIOUS AND MAGICAL COUNTRY DAMIT!! I MUST KNOW!!!

2 points

well that pretty much kills off the "IT HURTS FAMILY MORALS OMG AHHHHHH PANIC" argument, good to see

0 points

where do you live and how can i get to you?

all the women where i live are extremely bitchy, and wont let go of the smallest joke.

1 point

"I'm trying not to be racist but all the black Americans voted him because he was...well...black, so they thought they would get better benefits because their president was black."

I'm not trying to generalize but all the retards voted republican because their...well...retarded and do retarded things, which retarded people like.

see what i did there?

2 points

at the moment? nope.

in a thousand years? who knows?

but i doubt it

1 point

did Europe become a country while i wasn't looking?

but even if they tried a joint effort, it would ultimately fail,

Europe is pretty a continent made out of hate.

Britain hates itself, try getting a welsh man to work with a Englishman, or a Scotsmen to work with a Irish man, or a Irishman to work with a Welshman, or a Welshman work with a Scotsmen, or a Scotsmen with a Englishmen (i think u get the idea) the whole of Europe is pretty much that.

1 point

papers pretty plentifully, so, why not.

and the scene of someone throwing bills off a building that float safely down, is a lot more appealing then throwing many coins off traveling at terminal velocity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dTZUGS14zE

(i could only find that version)

imagine that, but with a couple hundred coins

3 points

villain is more of a moral term then a legal term. so in theory, robin hood took money from the rich who were stealing it, and gave it to the poor. he was by definition, a criminal, but not a villain

1 point

xbox 360 because unlike like the ps3, it has a MANS CONTROLLER. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!! MANLINESS!!!!

but nah, 360 just has better games at the moment, which is why I'm for it. and Sony a dick heads

http://www.destructoid.com/sony-tells-reviewers-how-to-review-lair- this-just-gets-better-43022.phtml

http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/sony-under-fire-for-racist-advertising/

come on...just look at that picture...could they be anymore racist?

1 point

hmm....well seeing as nearly all generations look at the newest generation and think this...and as they've been doing this for the past couple thousand years, id say no.

2 points

cough GLEN BECK cough cough

so yeah. i call BS

and i let Lewis Black explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtlOBa6qa3o&feature;=related

1 point

yeah, the big problem here is that when a lot of Europeans try to find out more about America, and they come across people like Sarah palin and glen beck, they suspect most republicans are like that.

5 points

Zombie land has

What would you do for a Twinkie?

OMG U SHOT BILL MURRY!!

its time to nut up or shut up.

while avatar has

blue furrys

1 point

(sorry for misspelling the title did it in a rush)

after traveling around Europe for a bit, and living in Britain for a large part of my life, i have normally got the consensus that a large portion of Europeans think the American republicans are nuts. I'm not talking about all republicans I'm talking about people like Glen beck, and Sarah Palin.

3 points

"even an American who knows"

pretty much everyone realizes hes American except people with a case of paranoia.

"is not honest and unfit to lead" hes more honest then that chimp bush, or the majority of politicians.

"he tell the truth no "

about what?

1 point

id rather him trying to improve foreign relations, i mean, over here in Britain the large majority of the people i know think little of America because of bush.

3 points

War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~Bertrand Russell

All the arms we need are for hugging. ~Author Unknown

in summary, make hugs not war

1 point

yes they are...but so are British...and french...and Chinese... and pretty much everyone else...

just a few days ago 2 people blocked the road side by side to have a 5 min chat on one of the busiest roads in the area i live in. that might just be them being jackasses but if i wasn't in a good mood i would of road raged and rear ended one of them.

1 point

well they did give us all those awesome (if annoying at times) spartan quotes to use, (even if most of them were made up)

so i would say they have a get out of jail free card, maybe not a 22 billion get out of jail free card though....

2 points

"your poor choice."

and if you get raped?

"atleast put it up for adoption :'("

this i agree with, i belive it should be a choice, but in 99.99% of cases it will be a wrong choice in my eyes

1 point

no way, the monarchy is only sucking up money at the moment. they can veto any law they want, so 1 person who hasn't had to work a day in their life has more power then nearly anyone else. Nowadays the monarchy is just for tourists, and even they are not that important to the tourist industry. when my cousins from the US come over to visit they really only want to see the palace and stuff, they could care less about who's in charge.

it costs around £100 million a year to keep them

http://www.centreforcitizenship.org/monarchy/mon5.html

its ridiculous that the tax payers have to cover their asses.

and to anyone that says its part of the British heritage

THEIR DAM GERMANS!

1 point

I also heard elephants from the planet Zeno were invading, god said so himself on the news, you would have seen it if you watch, but i guess you dont.

See i can make up bs without a reference point to

2 points

that game has a ridiculous amount of countries to play as doesn't it? AND GOD DAM IT WHY WONT IT LET ME COLONIZE CUBA???

1 point

what, this is why we SHOULD have public nudity, cause it gives me chuckles.

2 points

yeah you grab the guns, fighter jets, tanks, fuel, food, all the needed supplies

and ill grab the whiskey.

1 point

did i ever specifically say "i hate Islam" i don't think i did, and i apologies if i have, i don't hate people because of their religion, and i try not to hate people at all. but this is a debate site which is why I'm debating.

i have tried multiple times to connect with god, and i thought i had with multiple religions, until something proved that it was a lie. he found a belief he can follow, good for him, but why should i ? Ive never felt any real divine intervention, and until i do, or something comes up that has enough to sway my belief to follow a particular god(s), i shall continue being a atheist.

1 point

well. i guess when the zombie Apocalypse happens Michigan will be a safe zone, and guess who be laughing then? well us as well since we both live on a island and have armies of livestock to do our bidding.

1 point

well played good sir well played, but i think my point of worry still stands :)

1 point

this is why you Americans confuse the British people, your 16 you can join the army, 18, hay heres a rifle have fun, your 20 and want some booze?!?!?!?! SOMEONE CALL THE CHILD SERVICES!!!!!! HES A MADMAN!!!!

1 point

really food is the only thing that keeps us from thoughts and emotions.

"maybe this war isn't a good OHH DONUTS, I LOVE DONUTS!!!!!!!!!"

but nah its mainly the evolution thing.


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