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Yes, it should be mandatory. No, it should not be mandatory
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Should National Service be mandatory for all male singaporeans?

This is a debate for members of SCSS 2E3 and 2E5. Kindly refrain from posting if you are not a member of said classes. 

For students, keep in mind at all times that this is a debate for class and only appropriately language should be used. Please respect each other and each others' opinions. 

 

Ms. Sam 

Yes, it should be mandatory.

Side Score: 183
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No, it should not be mandatory

Side Score: 96
3 points

They once said,"Discipline is the refining fire by which talent becomes ability." Do our fellow Singaporeans have that refining fire?Frankly,I don't think so.We are talking about a country where crimes are a trend.From gangsters to gambling, the crime situation has increased by 19.6% on 2005.Due to the introduction of National Service,the situation has decreased by about 11%,not saying that NS was introduced recently but for sure,it plays such an important part to nurture youths to adults,or boys to men.Hence,National Service should or must be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as discipline,an important quality that one should possess,can be taught through National Service.How you may ask.From simple things like waking up on time or even the temptation of pointing your gun to your own platoon.By these simple things are where a person knows what is best for them and so that they are mature enough to make their own and right choices in life..How can a person live without discipline?He would have no sense of direction and would do anything that he thinks is right.Therefore,I conclude that National Service is very important and it should not be 'abolished' just because of tiredness and so on.With no doubt,I think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.Thank You.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
catticus90(360) Disputed Banned
2 points

but for sure,it plays such an important part to nurture youths to adults,or boys to men

Why do people need to do National Service to become mature?

From simple things like waking up on time or even the temptation of pointing your gun to your own platoon

Waking up on time is not an attribute of the national service. I learnt to wake up on time with an alarm clock.

By these simple things are where a person knows what is best for them and so that they are mature enough to make their own and right choices in life.

But why do they need to learn simple tasks through National Service? People learn simple tasks simply through living, working and developing mentally. How does waking up on time and not pointing a gun at your own platoon equate to knowing what is best for you? Can't people become mature and make the right choices in life by not doing National Service?

How can a person live without discipline?

But why do they have to receive discipline through National Service? It's not the only source of discipline. I for one have my parents to blame for 90% of my discipline. The rest lying with other adults such as teachers.

He would have no sense of direction and would do anything that he thinks is right

Not having discipline doesn't mean you're going to be delusional about morals. People grow up without discipline all the time in developed countries. Sure, it can produce rude, ignorant people but I hardly think it means they're going to contribute greatly to crime rates. Many just take on morals and learn right and wrong from the perception of the civilization around them. Unless you grew up in a windowless room with no social encounters you can get the general idea of societies morals.

Anyway, why should the entire male population of Singapore be punished for a minority of men who commit crime, are lazy, undisciplined e.c.t? Would you see it fair if your country made National Service mandatory because some of your citizens commit crimes even though you had never broken the law and were a wonderful person?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
mssamantha(40) Disputed
3 points

I don't believe catticus90 is in our class. I also don't think they understand the purpose of our debate or our point of view (how could they if they are not in SCSS 2E3 or 2E5).They do make some interesting points, though. What do you all think??

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I agree with catticus90.

It is NOT necessary nurture youths to adults, or boys to men with discipline or responsibility through National Service. They may be other ways, such as training them to be responsible from young. It's the best time to teach some manners and responsibility.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

Hilman,

Can you think of other important qualities that NS teaches beyond discipline? I think you make a strong argument, btw.

Ms. Sam

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with you. On your statement about crimes, I think that NS may not have much of an impact. Internal defence are th police and SCDF. The army is more suited against external defence, threat from other countries. "It plays such an important part to nurture youths to adults,or boys to men." I don't think so. Parents are the one who should mould their children not outsiders. They are merely training the youths to become soldiers who listen to orders and fight for their country. "Waking up on time" Ha! I wake up every morning at 5am to do my morning prayers. All one needs to wake up early is to train oneself, not necessarily during NS. "Temptation of pointing your gun to your own platoom." I think they would rather point the gun at the instructor then their platoon mates and this is coming from someone in a uniformed group.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
*Hilman(17) Disputed
3 points

So the police and the SCDF need not go to National Service?National Service is separated to HomeTeam,Police and the Army.So,internal and external defence are pretty much because of National Service."Parents are the one who should mould their children not outsiders."Then let me ask you,why aren't your parents teaching you English,Mathematics,Science,Art,Home Economics,Mother Tongue,Design and technology and so on?Aren't teachers 'outsiders' too?Imagine a world where parents teach or nurture their children although they are already adult.So,if a couple has 10 children,they will just commit suicide right?No more schools,no more universities and most importantly,no more National Service.First of all,as a Muslim,morning prayers start at 5.45 am not exactly 5 am.Secondly,one cannot expect everyone to be like oneself as people differ.Some people might wake up at 9 am or even later and so,national Service will get them to be more disciplined and teach them to wake up earlier by strict routines which I think is fair.If one accidentally slip,could he be able to get himself up with a lot of scratches and wounds,or by some help by others?Take National Service as a life changer not a house of torment.For the last point given for the temptation, you have just given another reason why National Service is mandatory.Thanks.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it is important to protect Singapore, our only home. Although National Service can be tough, this could be a good chance to train the guys to be more disciplined as getting up early in the morning may not be an easy task. Other than that, having good health and a fit body is very important when there is a war. Not only must we be mentally strong, we must be physically fit too in order to protect Singapore. However this does not mean that only males can protect Singapore. Females can also do their part by taking care of family as females are physically weaker than males. Also due to our small population as compared to those bigger countries with more people, we could only rely on our own citizens and advanced weapons to protect Singapore thus it is really important to train male Singaporeans to ensure that they have the mental power and fitness to fight during a war hence I think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
mssamantha(40) Disputed
2 points

LiXuan,

You make some interesting points. I wonder, which kind of war would Singapore's National Service need to participate in? Can you foresee any conflicts that might result in war? Who does Singapore need to protect itself from?

Ms. Sam

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
3 points

National Service(NS) SHOULD be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as all of them have protect our nation in times of war. Let assume if there isn't any NS in Singapore, during wartime, Singapore will suffer alot so we have to be prepared in case of such times. Males that attend the NS can also build up their physical standards though the process is tough and the male Singaporeans can learn to endure hardship during the training. Although I feel that NS should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans, I think that women can also play a part in protecting our country. Singapore is our home so we have to do all we can to keep it safe. I personally feel that it is very important for Singaporeans to protect our country so regardless of male or female, all of us have to do something for Singapore to become a peace and war free country for the locals and tourists to stay in.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
mssamantha(40) Disputed
2 points

Jia Ling,

Can you be more specific or provide examples of how women can support Singapore? Can you think of any wars that may arise in which Singapore will need to participate? Who is Singapore protecting itself from?

Ms. Sam

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
3 points

Ns should be mandatory for all male singaporeans as we should let all men experience the physical and mental "toture". This is the time where all men are treated equally, be it rich or poor.Singapore is a small island with a relatively low population compared to our other neighbouring countries such as malaysia and Indonesia.If these countries were to attack us, Singapore would be powerless as we have not enough men to defend Singapore from these external threats. Adapted from "the man and his ideas" by Mr Lee Kuan Yew "It will not do to depend on others to defend us.We would be in a very difficult situation if there is trouble one day in our country,if there are enemies invading us and those defending us belong to another state,people not loyal to our nation,but only soldiers employed by us. It would then be too late to feel sorry about it"

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

The part of all men are treated, be it rich or poor, equally may be true... to some extent. The trainers may be fair, but the one participating may NOT. They may not argue in front of the trainers but they will have some disputes between all the participants.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
mssamantha(40) Disputed
1 point

Wazza - your point, "this is the time where all men are treated equally, be it rich or poor" is very interesting. Could you elaborate? Why is this important to the nation and to the individual?

Ms. Sam

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
MyDebateNub(5) Disputed
3 points

Hi Ms Sam I think Aaron's point is that Singapore should exercise equality despite having different financial statuses or being a so-called "higher class citizen". Most of the time, Singaporeans are judged by their housing and where they stay. Those that stay in condominiums or private housing are labelled as "rich kids" and some of them carry a self-centred and boastful attitude when they enter NS. They may think that due to the fact that their families are more well-off they should not be doing the same amount of work as the other recruits just because they think the rest are simply "commoners". This will definitely affect the nation if they carry this mentality into the war, where they might not be willing to fight alongside their allies and stay away from the front lines, thinking that their lives are more important than others' lives. This will greatly reduce the efficiency of the platoon and this will eventually affect the whole team, possibly leading to a drop in team morale. "One for all, all for one". This is a phrase commonly said to emphasise the importance of teamwork and it especially important in the army, where you have to be willing to put your life on the line. For the individual, he will not be very popular with others and it will lead to a lack of social etiquette if he cannot work with others and stick to his mentality that he belongs to a higher "class".

Ms. Sam can you comment on my 1st comment please?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
0 points

"Ns should be mandatory for all male singaporeans as we should let all men experience the physical and mental "toture"." That is exactly why no one is willing to join NS willingly. If instead we are to associate NS with honour, pride and so forth (refer to my argument above) more people will be willing to join NS and it will no longer have to be mandatory.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
3 points

In my opinion, I feel that NS should be mandatory.

Conscription in Singapore, called National Service (NS), requires all male Singaporean citizens and second-generation permanent residents who have reached the age of 18 to enroll in the military. They serve a two-year period as Full Time National Servicemen, either in the Army, Police Force or Civil Defence. NS allows youths to gather together and forge a strong bond as residents of the same country serving together. With global resources being a rising demand, there is a higher chance that war will break out due to disputes between countries. Thus, we will need an army to ensure our own safety in times of war. Moreover, there have been a rising number of terrorist attacks throughout the globe and Singapore might be targeted sooner or later as Singapore is a very densely populated country and an easy target due to its size.

Firstly, National Service ensures that we build up a defence against invaders instead of leaving our country defenseless. Additionally, it helps to ensure that our youth are kept fit and thus lower the obesity rate, keeping us in the pink of health and this will eventually lead to males having less health problems in the future. This means that less of the country’s finance can be spent on building medical facilities. If NS is not compulsory, very few people would decide to enrol into the army and the army would probably be very small in number. This would result in having an undersized army and we would not be able to defend ourselves properly. We once relied on the British to defend Singapore, but they eventually retreated and let the Japanese take over during World War II. This eventually led to Singapore being dominated by the Japanese and many lives were lost in that period of time and it was a period of great turmoil. Thus, we must ourselves defend Singapore and we will need our own military force. Thus, having mandatory NS would help to stabilise the military defence of Singapore and thus help protect our country against attackers. Singapore would also be a safer place to live in. These are some of the nation-related reasons of why National Service should be compulsory for men.

Secondly, many commentators have stated this generation of graduates that have just come out has been labelled as the “Strawberry Generation.” This is because we have shown little resistance in whatever we do, and we have proven ourselves to be unable to cope with stress. There is also a lacking of perseverance and the older generation has complained that we are not determined enough. There has been a declining trend in Singapore in terms of character development, and the calibre of Singaporeans seems to be decreasing rapidly. This can all lead down to one problem---having a lack of fundamentals in character. Boys (including some teens and youths) are getting spoilt by their parents and there have been many situations where the child has not been disciplined well enough due to their parents’ soft-heartedness. NS, however, solves this basic problem by instilling discipline in our children. It is only through imposed discipline that self-discipline can be instilled. In the Army, we have to wake up at the crack of dawn and this is an example of having disciplined. Many youths nowadays wake up close to noon, and such habits can be seen as a sign of laziness. Even with an alarm clock, we refuse to take note of it and simply shut it off. The minority have been able to cultivate good habits like waking up early and thus there is a need for National Service in Singapore to guide our youths back on the right track of life.

Thirdly, National Service also helps in developing mental resilience. When we enter the workforce, we will be bound to meet daunting situations that may overwhelm us. If our mental capabilities are not well honed, we might just crack under the pressure of the project. Also, in NS, we will meet with people from all walks of life. This is something that will help us see what the outside world is like. Having to work with all kinds of people will help to cultivate our teamwork skills and experience many different feelings. Being subject unto the officers who seemingly give pointless tasks helps to train your patience and this can help a lot in worklife when your boss may give you assignments just because he wishes to. NS is the place where “boys become men”. It brings out the fullest potential of every man in every person in NS, making sure that we have a competent military force. Unlike other big countries like the U.S, where NS is not compulsory, many people that are just doing office work are untrained in combat and they will become burdens in the country should a war occur. I believe that the government has reviewed the NS policy many times and the current system is a result of much consideration. Although Singapore has a lack of manpower, if all of our men have both brains and brawn, the calibre of capability will help us to par with those countries with more manpower and larger armies.

Many people say that NS should not be mandatory. They claim that NS is a waste of two years and that time can be used to pursue a career. This is not true as those two years in the army can help to train a person to tackle the challenges of being in the Singapore workforce more efficiently and thus contribute to the Economic Defence of Singapore in an improved manner compared to throwing a bunch of inexperienced scholars, who have no experience in handling people. Many times in school, we are spoon-fed by our teachers and we do not have the ability to take care of ourselves. Without the NS, we will not learn to take care of ourselves. Without that ability, how are we to take care of our future families? If we cannot take care of our families, how do we raise up the next generation of Singaporeans? It is also said that we should have an army that is willing to serve. However, is this possible with the current situation in Singapore? Our youths are all intelligence-orientated and we are taught that “brains are better than brawn”. In National Service, there is a misconception that we need more brawns than brain. This leads to people becoming disinterested in the Army, and who knows how the enrolment for the Army will drop if NS becomes voluntary? The result will certainly leave Singapore in an extremely vulnerable position for other countries to take over. Besides, much of Singapore’s current population is made up of foreign talent who have become Permanent Residents (PR) in Singapore. Why is it that we take up the same space, live in the same country, but they have no obligations to defend it? Should they decide to live here or even become a citizen here, it has become their responsibility to help defend their home here in Singapore.

With this I conclude my comment. For a greater cause and a safer, more reliable place to stay in, I strongly support NS being mandatory. People say that “it is better to be safe than sorry”, and having men to be trained in the Army for general knowledge does not harm anyone. We require balances in all Five Aspects of Singapore’s Defence and Military Defence is something that is not to take lower priority. The government has made the right decision, and there is no need for any change in the government policy. Our males complain about NS, but sometimes “you have to be cruel in order to be kind”. War is ensuing in many countries, and it might just become inevitable that Singapore get involved in one. If that is the case, we will need the Army to show that we are NOT some small country, but we are a country that CAN fight back and we are not to be taken lightly.

To all previous comments:

Singapore is not a country that relies purely on manpower and military force. Under the leadership of our government, we have forged alliances with many strong countries and have many allies to assist us. Such examples are China, U.S, Malaysia and many others. War alone, is not a reason for National Service to be mandatory.

@Li Xuan:

I can’t believe a lady would actually want to enrol in the NS; you must be the rarity amongst the millions of ladies in Singapore. For this, I would like to put down my thoughts concerning this. I support NS for ladies as well. We all stay in the same country- so why do only the men give 2 years of their lives into the army while the females can move on? Defending the country is a role for all and it is also important that we maximise the manpower that we have as Singapore is considered to have a small population when compared to other countries. However, Military defence is a very large scope- the ladies do not necessarily need to be on the frontlines. Additionally, try to imagine what would happen if the women were to be captured as POWs. However, if guys were to be captured they would most likely be tortured or killed. Also, it has been scientifically proven that females have lower physique compared to males. After all, guys would rather sacrifice their life then let a lady die in war. Thus, Ladies would be more suited to work a bit more “behind the scenes”, having roles such as medics, intelligence or admin staff. This would allow the men to be able to learn other things that can be more relevantly applied in battle, e.g. tactics or rifle handling. They would also be able to concentrate in battle more. However, there are some disadvantages of having ladies in the Army. For example, the ladies might pose as a distraction to the men’s training. At the age of 18, many men are beginning to start looking for girlfriends and they might find a lady which attracts them within the camp. This might manage to spur him on to excel further, but what would happen if more than one person likes a single girl? This would eventually lead to fights and things may become lethal if the soldiers have easy access to the weapons. The contributions that women make for NS will be much different from what males will put in. For a start, they must be willing to accept this change in the system as girls in Singapore tend to lead over-protective lifestyles and for them to be involved in Singapore’s defence might be something that they may need time to cope with. Their contribution will often be more indirect as their roles would involve taking care of the men and ensuring that they are in the best condition to go for war. Thus, women would be more ideal for contributing to the “behind the lines” defence. NS should be introduced to women and the youth should be educated on the importance of military defence. We should not take NS as a form of torture- Instead, we should think of it as a way to contribute to our country by defending our homeland. Ladies should also strengthen themselves so that they will not become a burden to the men during wartime. By introducing these changes, Singapore will become a better place for us all.

Sorry Miss. Sam, this is Sean here, please pardon me I forgot to put my name inside my username.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Sean,

First let me just say that I am quite impressed with your comment and your responses.

I think, for those that argue that NS is a waste of time, they are thinking too narrowly. It is without a doubt that people grow during their two years, both physically and mentally. I think the issue is more about whether or not people should have the choice to decline this growth. What do you think?

As for those who work behind the scenes when it comes to both war time and times of peace, is knowing how to shoot a gun the only way to contribute? How about those who build the tanks, fighter jets and listen to sattelites? They may not know how to shoot a gun, they may not have been to NS, but they are still contributing to national safety, aren't they? I think to say that anyone who has not been trained in the military is useless come war time is a bit of a stretch.

Finally, and other people have made this point, is joining NS the only way to curb rising obesity rates? How about changing the type of food children eat in the canteen in school? Making mandatory strictly to address obesity seems like a stretch as well.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Garbage Clarified
1 point

People who build their career during those two years or pursue their studies can also grow physically and mentally.

As for your second point, can't female contribute?

Technological advancements in military capabilities have made obsolete the requirement for physical strength in the army, thereby allowing women to serve alongside men in the army. Conventional wisdom says that women should not serve National Service as physical strength is a requirement and women in general do not possess this strength to carry out the strenuous activities in NS. However, modern warfare is not all about physical strength. In recent years, the landscape of warfare has shifted from physical geographies to the cyberspace. Whilst fighting on the frontlines still carries significance, cyber warfare has grown in importance. This is of particular relevance in Singapore where human population is a limit for army size and technological advantage must be fully harnessed. Take for example the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 where the Russian military infiltrated Georgian security networks to destabilize their military capabilities in order to win the war. This serves as evidence that physical combat is no longer the only aspect in warfare that matters. In many modern wars, cyber weapons win the battle. With this in consideration, physical strength need not be a pre-requisite in National Service, women with sufficient knowledge of cyber warfare can be a significant resource for the Singaporean army as well.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

EVERYONE, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS EVEN IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH A SPECIFIC PERSON.

This is online debate, so there is no need for personal attack.

Many of the comments have sidetracked and people are beginning to attack others.

Indeed, those that sit in front of the computer playing games and looking for girls (when carrying a immature mind) is precisely why we need to have NS for our dear Singaporean men.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

This are my reasons why National Service should be mandatory for all male singaporeans.

Putting aside the daily routine scheduled for you in various units, you probably will have ample time to think about what you truly want to do after NS. Perhaps you might want to further your studies locally or overseas, or start a full-time job.

Ever feel glued to your couch, watching brainless programmes on television while your mind slips into oblivion? Well, NS is the time to kiss your comfortable couch goodbye! You would definitely be working out more during NS and this discipline instilled in you could, in turn, strengthen your mental power and aid you in making decisive choices in other aspects of life.

I believe at the end of your service in NS, you would have a story to tell. A story that you can be proud of, and the best part is, you get to create it. With the right mentality and attitude during the whole course of your Service, you would learn and experience new opportunities— and share them with friends. It will be a story of becoming a real man.

Many times we take the people around us for granted, be they family, friends, or even a significant person. The time you spend during NS would make you cherish the ones closest to you and allow you to realise their importance because you only have a few days per week to spend with them. So, you will have to make a choice on how and who you are going to spend this period of time with.

Lastly, NS would aid in understanding yourself better. Never thought that you could survive in the jungle? Found out that you are actually a good leader? Realised that you’re willing to sacrifice anything for Singapore? Stepping out of your comfort zone can help you discover things about yourself that you’re not even aware of.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

Should National Service be mandatory for all male singaporeans?The answer is yes.National Service is a time when all males are trained to be a man.Even though it may be tough and the officers and sergeants are strict and demanding,it can aid us in facing lots of challenges and facing them one by one without fear.The physical trainings and morning exercises will help us be physically fit too.In the national service,it is when all kinds of people are bonded together.Be it you are rich or poor,indian or chinese,in there,it is always a one big family and all will be treated equally.Also,without National Service,males will not be trained and not able to defend the country.Thus,Singapore will be vulnerable to attacks from other countries as we are not mentally and physically fit.Therefore,to prevent this from happening,National Service is a mandatory thing so that we could face these enemy attacks without any fear and face them with responsibility.Hence,National Service is mandatory for all male singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

I agree that National Service is compulsory for all males in Singapore. We certainly do not know what the future has in store for Singapore , we may be attacked by neighbouring countries , at that point of time , we will require the help of our National Servicemen to fight the war for us. And if National Service is not made mandatory , we would have very little or no soldiers at the battlefield , leaving Singapore totally defenseless. There is a video on youtube that lists many bad points about going to NS. Some of them are , while females of their own age are already working full time , the guys are still serving the NS , thus not earning any income at all. The video also lists that male singaporeans try every way to get excused from the NS , by either getting too injured to exercise or plainly just getting an MC by deliberately hurting themselves. I think that male singaporeans should see the NS as a form of repayment towards the government for ensuringa high standard of education , the cleanliness of the country and oeace throughout Singapore.

Video ( NS Song ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3wi2Tt4Pc

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

I feel that National Service should be compulsory for all male Singaporeans.

Singapore is a small country, and we are in a rather vulnerable situation. It will be extremely simple for other countries to attack us, seeing that we are just a “little red dot”. National Service helps to train male Singaporeans so that they will be able to protect Singapore if there is a war. Other than helping males to keep fit, National Service also helps to train males to be more disciplined, such as waking up extremely early even after a whole day of training the day before. Assuming that there is no National Service in Singapore, what would happen during war time? Singapore would probably suffer, since nobody will be able to protect our country and ensure our safety.

Not only protecting our country, National Service also teaches males different values, for example: perseverance and teamwork.

National Service is extremely tough, and many are bound to feel like giving up half way, since this generation is also known as the “strawberry generation”. However, in NS, there is no such thing as giving up. You can only keep trying, and keep trying.

Teamwork is also a very essential value in NS. Like what Mr Liu said, “Go far, go together”. If you want to go far, then you have to work together as a team and solve the problems together.

I’m Yee Leng by the way.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

I think that National Service should be mandatory. In NS, they can not only learn to be fit physically, but also fit mentally. With fit mentally i mean discipline, teamwork, perseverance and resillience. Men are physically fitter than women, and they will have to take up the task of protecting their country, their family and friends should Singapore get invaded and attacked one day.

In NS, they have to abide to strict rules, like having to wake up early in the morning, just like @MyDebateNub had said, that Signaporeans are labelled as "The Strawberry Generation" by many, one of the reasons to be the current level of technology allows the people to do things online without having to move from one place to another or with just a click on the mouse, we can buy things from other countries. Another reason could be as Singapore's economy is going stronger and better, hence many families have better finances, and many families are getting maids to do their housework and things so this generation of men and women are getting lazier. I have even read an article that some foreign pupils who are studying in Singapore are quite shocked when they saw that some Singaporeans don't even know how to do household chores. This is even more of the reason why they should have compulsory National Service. To train them to be more independent without the help of maids, technology and such.

Some men complain that going to NS is a torture, a waste of time and a horrible "nightmare". Then, if NS is not compulsory, there will be definitely a huge decline in enrolment for the NS. Then, who will know when another country will just suddenly sttack Singapore? By that time, won't all the men no matter they have gone to NS or not, have to go out and fight to protect their country? Will they even win against the other countries who have bigger number of trained army forces with only their small amount of trained men? That is, a really small chance. By the time, the men who do not go NS and train, how will they be able to protect their families and loved ones?

Everyone in Singapore has good education, we all learn of a lot of things and have knowledge. However, could one with lots of knowledge yet little physical abilities just use wit to beat the enemies with weapons? Or do they just stand there and get scared out of their wits? Training strictly and "torturously" allows the men to become more mature and not be just a "frog in the well" who has never seen the reality of the world outside. No enemy is so kind to do things our way. If one just uses textbook knowledge and try to "talk their way out", (no offense) but they will just get killed or blasted out of their way.

In conclusion, NS should be mandatory to train the men to be better, since they are "gifted" with a better physical fitness which some women might be really envious of (like me, for example). If women had been blessed with better physical fitness than men, then going to NS to train and to protect the country, I for one will not complain. However, since the men are the ones who are fitter physically, the ones who complain of exhuastion and things, they have to train even more to mature and drum into their heads that they are the ones most capable of protecting the country.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

In my opinion , National Service should be mandatory for all Singaporeans due to the fact that Singapore is a small country. Singapore does not have any major natural resources and the only resource that we have is human resource , also known as manpower. The only thing that has kept Singapore going through the years since its founding is the booming economy as Singapore is placed smack in the middle of the commercial trade route. Back to the topic , National Service should be mandatory as we do not have enough manpower to defend ourselves in times of war and conflict. Like my father used to say ''A single nuclear bomb could wipe out almost 3/4 of the population of Singapore'' , i feel that we should be well prepared to face tough times. As many Singaporeans have the mindset that a soldier's pay is not that high and that soldiers have to undergo tough trainings makes the local Singaporeans less interested in working as a career soldier. Hence , there will not be much Singaporean males who have been trained militarily. By enforcing the law that National Service is mandatory , Singaporean males will be trained militarily and can be put into action in times of conflict. In conclusion , i feel that National Service should be mandatory as Singapore does not have enough manpower to fight in conflict.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

yes it should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans to undergo National Service. Singapore is a small country, it can only rely on her own people to protect her. The reason National Service became enforced was because Britain intended to reduce it's forces in Malaysia and Singapore, thus it became obvious to the government that they had to set up an army on their own as they were no longer able to rely on the British troops for denfence. An earlier result of lack of defense in Singapore was when the British surrendered to the Japanese within 2 days of the invasion, which left us defenseless thus we fell into the Japanese's clutches easily. To prevent history from repeating itself, we have to rely on our own army no matter how small it is. Not only is National service needed to defend our country, it also teaches values like responsibility. National service trains the male population to be strong mentally and physically, preventing the development of too many "strawberry generation" otherwise known as fragile and weak people.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

Every male Singaporean citizen and permanent male resident will be serving two years of National service in Singapore.

I strongly feel a need that National Service to be mandatory.

Although most people claim it to be a waste of time, and that the two years could be spent into developing skills and furthering studies, think about it. Without strong security in psychological defence, economic, civil, social and military defence, what use would knowledge and the learnt skills be when the time is to come for war?

NS should be mandatory as firstly, we need to ensure Singapore is ready for war at anytime. History told us about the Japanese occupation. It was a painful and torturous time for everyone affected by the war. If we strengthen up our security and defences by NS, such painful wars might not happen again, and there will be peace in the country. We should not just wait and regret the next war that might be happening at anytime.

NS trains the mental and physical fitness of most of our male Singaporeans and permanent residents, it is an important part of building up in a male's life. It will certainly train the individual to be more independent and stronger in both mental and physical and will definitely train the male individual to be ready for work/studies or etc when the male is out of NS.

NS will build up one's character, and that is an important thing in life. Thats why the army officers in charge will be strict and unlenient.

NS will also strengthen Singapore;s bond together. In NS, the males will meet new people and will learn to communicate, make new friends, take time to bond in the two years well. This will certainly strengthen our social defence. With NS, we can't guarantee that all the 5 defences of Singapore are very strong, but we can promise that as long as NS is mandatory, there will be less possibility of war considering our war defences and there will never be a repeat of the Japanese war ever again.

NS will give the male individual ,experience that will teach them not to be naive . The NS experience that the males will get will guide them better in life and lead them to make correct choices. In NS, the males learn better what is right and wrong so that they wont make the wrong decision and regret.

Lastly, two years in NS will give them more time to think about what they want to be in the future. Maybe after NS, they will want to serve NS full time? No one will know. NS will give people opportunities to think slowly for the 2 years and make a permanent decision on what they want and can become. In NS, the males will know their strengths and weakness much better than before and this will lead them to career planning and choosing the right career for themselves. In a job the males are good in, they will generate more productivity and will make a bigger contribution to the country in some way or another.

All of this sums up my belief that NS SHOULD be mandatory in Singapore and it will definitely not be a waste of time on anyone at all.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as Singapore is a small country with no natural resources at all. But why can we be on the same level or even higher than other big country is because of our citizens. People is what make Singapore what she is today. To have all the citizen all fit and healthy is very important to maintain the economy of Singapore. Other than that, as we have lesser people as compared to huge country, our army is also lesser. If other countries attack Singapore one day, we will just be take over easily due to our lack of soldiers that's why National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Since female is physically weak than male, the male should take over the job for protecting the country while the female will take the job of taking care of family.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
mssamantha(40) Disputed
3 points

Zoe,

Is NS the only way that Singapore can be on the same page as bigger countries??

Ms. Sam

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

It is not the only way... But it is one of the MAIN ways...

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it serves some purpose. It changes the mindset of a youth to an adult one. So that we boys will be fully mature, independent, responsible and discipline. After National Service, we would know when to make the right decision when not to, like being on time. This is exactly the problem with teenagers nowadays, we are spoil, dependent on others, too used to being told what to do. National Service just seems to be only way to solve all this. Besides that, National Service has one more purpose. Teaching boys to protect Singapore. If National Service is not mandatory, who are the ones that is going protect us from invaders, enemies? Are we just going to just sit back and watch the war? Are we going to let 46 years of efforts just go down the drain just like that? So i conclude that National Service be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it trains us to be a real man and protect our only Singapore from invaders, enemies.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
neoapril(2) Disputed
1 point

i do not agree that serving NS will change the mindset of youth. Yes, i agree that it does help in that aspect, however, these are what the school have been teaching for all these years, so i believe that even without NS the boys will still be "fully mature, independent, responsible and discipline"

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

NS should be mandatory as it is an important key factor that moulds male cadets into better men who work for both the nation as well as the social society. Even through NS there are still several men who are 'pampered' too much and these men are not going to be able to survive in case of a serious threat. the reason why i say that some NS men are pampered is because of a recent news article in yahoo which shows a NS man walking empty handed while his maid is trailing behind him helping him carry his army bag. These show how 'weak' our NS men are and yet we have people complaining about tough training in the army. We must know that NS plays an important role in the Singapore's history. While building the noble quality of discipline in the male cadets, NS has also made close bonds with other nations. Like Operation Wallaby which takes place in new Zealand recently and Exercise Thunderstrike which took place in Australia.

While NS is a painstaking 2 years, it forges friendship between soldiers that would last forever. Such tough bonded friendship cannot be obtained easily as soldiers go through alot together before they have close relationship with each other.

NS provides a fit body for those who are obese with forcing BMT(Basic Military Training) every single day for around 9 weeks and another 9 weeks for those who failed their first BMT. This thus reduces the obesity problem in our nation from growing on.

With that i would like to end my argument.

By the way this is Kishore, Ms Sam.

Supporting Evidence: The article on 'Pampered NS men' (tauhuayboy.wordpress.com)
Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

thatonal Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as they have to be trained in order to protect Singapore in the future. National service may be difficult, but it trains them to be physically fit and also moral qualities such as discipline. They will also learn some war commands from their sirs in the camp and do foot drills. These males will be more mature and their mental ability to care for our country will increase. One will never know reality and terrorism may occur in Singapore or wars would occur in the future, that’s when national service comes in handy. At that critical stage, Singaporeans must know how to react and defense themselves. Without the proper training, there would be pandemonium in Singapore and it would be more vulnerable for the enemies to attack us. We must be mentally strong when this happens. In addition, males are believed to be physically stronger than the females, thus they should all the more go for National Service to protect those females citizens. In conclusion, National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans, only then Singapore will have a strong military force. National service is a must.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
1 point

"Their mental ability to care for our country will increase." This may not be true. Some Singaporeans male may still despise being forced to go National Service. For them, it may be torture. This may apply to Hady. He is currently having a mindset that National Service is blocking his freedom (games, relationships etc.) If he is forced to go for National Service, his mindset may change for the better (he will start to care for Singapore) or worse (he will hate Singapore more for forcing him to join the National Service).

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
adriankhoo(5) Disputed
1 point

I do not agree with your two of your statement.One is that NS trains man to have moral qualities such as discipline but as Chew said,it's passion,not discipline for example like you. When you do well in your math,why? Is it discipline? No! Is passion for the subject or like Kishore,why does he go for his NCC practice? Is it discipline that make him go for it? Same thing,NO! It's the passion he has for NCC. So there should be no need for NS be mandatory for males as when the males have passion in their country,they will naturally fight for it. Totally no need for NS.

Secondly,you said males are believed to be physically stronger than females but as you said,it is BELIEVED only,not proven. So it is just a opinion,not a fact(see i apply what ms sam taught,not bad) thus females should also go for NS as they may perform even better than males in NS.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

National Service should be and made mandatory for all Singaporeans is because of the small community we have compared to others. Without enough manpower, the males will have to sacrifice without a choice. It gives males a sense of discipline, teamwork and respect. At 18 years, the start of military life will allow this values to be nutured in them as they are turned from a teenager to a soldier. This time is the best as teenagers are turning into young working adults and such morals are important in building their character and personality. This will make them feel more matured and make the right decisions in life as they grow to be more responsible for their family and the nation. The physical training helps in improving one's stamina and fitness which makes them feel stronger physically and mentally. Such things can bring them far in life as they are braver to carry on to new heights and overcome challenges that are tough like how National Service are feared by some. Therefore, even people who thinks they are unfit to do tough jobs will still get experience in such areas which makes them a less weaker person. National Service also breaks the line where different men are separated because of their identity in life. Like how clever people may be called nerds, rich people being arrogant and gangsters ruling over small people. In National Service, all of them would be treated the same way, being rich or having such attitude could not escape. When everyone is treated equally, it is harder to have fights breaking out among ourselves which reduces the crime rate in Singapore. The crime rate in Singapore had decreased from 680 in 2009 to 650 in 2010. It also help one to be more thoughtful of others' feelings and respect their decision in time to come.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I totally agree with what you said about people being treated the same way. It is true that when people are treated without any difference, they will start to think that they are all the same in one way or another, which will prevent them from quarreling over who is right or who is better, which leads to the breaking out of fights, increasing the crime rate.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service (NS) in Singapore is compulsory for all males and it is 2years. It purpose of having NS is to be always ready in case there is a war. Also, NS is a process whereby males can learn new stuffs which they do not and also train themselves to be both mentally and physically fit.

Firstly, males are usually more fit as compared to females, physically and that is why they are serving NS and not the females. Well, there are also some males that are physically less fit and that is why they are in NS.

Secondly, if NS is not compulsory for all males and they have the choice of going to serve or not. This will result in lesser people taking the initiative of serving NS and there will be lesser people being there to defend the country if there is really a war.

In conclusion, based on those reasons (above), i strongly think that NS is compulsory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
0 points

One question. Why will it result in lesser people taking the initiative of serving NS?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
JackTay(3) Disputed
2 points

For example there are 1million males at the age of serving NS, if its compulsory, there will be 1 million people serving it. However, if it is optional, there will definitely be lesser people as compared to NS being compulsory. so does that answer your question?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
MyDebateNub(5) Disputed
1 point

Wow I believe that we really need to explain human nature to this fellow. Who in the right mind would go for NS, when in Singapore everything is about brains and getting a good salary? Growing up under pampered conditions, the vast majority of people are going to choose an air-conditioned environment over being under the hot sun. This mainly applies to being a soldier as a proper occupation. As a voluntary act, why would people want to go through such physical training? If they want to toughen themselves, they can simply go for workouts on a daily/weekly basis and do it at our own time and pace. Who would want to go under a forced scehdule? Those that wish to cultivate discipline can do so on their own and they will not go for NS. Lastly, if NS was not compulsory, would parents still want their children to go for NS?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I feel that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

In the past, Singapore has to depend on the British for our country’s safety. And when the British decided to withdraw, we were left defenseless. Hence it is necessary to build a substantial military force to protect our homeland.

Conscription seems to be the best option due to Singapore’s limited resources and economic constraints. It helps to build up a defence force without placing a heavy burden on Singapore’s manpower and financial resources.

Moreover, due to the small population or rather a limited male population, Singapore does not have the liberty to implement a National Service programme whereby males are selectively drafted.

National Service helps to foster cohesiveness among male Singaporeans. It brings Singaporeans from diverse background together and also requires them to go through similar experiences and thereby identify themselves with a common destiny of defending the nation.

Furthermore, National Service is an ideal opportunity to train the males, physically and mentally. Nowadays, teenagers are spoilt. We depend on others and are not determined enough. When obstacles surfaced, we often choose to give up. The series of intensive physical trainings will certainly build up the males’ resilience and their fitness level. Males that undergo National Service will also become more independent.

To conclude, National Service has been an integral part of Singapore’s defence and also played an important role in nation building. Adding on, it benefits the males as they will be physical trained and will also become more mature. Thus, National Service should be mandatory for all males Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I think National Service should be mandatory to all male Singaporeans as National service can strengthen physical abilities as they go through a lot of training. And after National Service, they may become more manly. Their mental abilities will also increase as they become more confident. And NS brings together people from all walks of life—different races, different religions—they will learn to live and work closely with different kinds of people and make friends with other races of people and developed a brotherhood between each of them as they go through some tough times during the NS training. At the end of it all, they will become more mature and independent—no longer the boy they once were.

Also,after they finished their NS training and they become a full time NS men , they can get advantages. For example, they can get financial assistance if their families have financial problem or have a personalised ez-Link Card that can have privilege when they board the public transport etc.

It is also the guy's responsible to defend Singapore as after the NS training , they are stronger and more fit. Even if Singapore let girls into the NS training , our strength will never match the guys.

So I think National Service be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. One of the obvious reasons are that Singapore is small country, and can only rely and trust the citizens to protect and put their life in the line for their home. Take the Japanese Occupation for example. The British surrendered just one week after the invasion. With them gone, we were left on our own to fight the Japanese, however we do not have our own soldiers. That is why NS is important. If the government did abolish this rule, there would not be many male volunteers. With just so few men, there would not even be an army. What would Singapore do if there was a war? Without receiving proper training from NS, how could a man protect his family? The government just wants male Singaporeans to receive proper training for 2 years. Reservist is just so you could always be ready for any events. Hence I think it should be mandatory.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Yes, in my opinion, National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it helps to turn males into strong fighting men who can help to defend our country during a war.

Not many are willing to join the army because of the strenuous and tough training so if National Service wasn't mandatory, then there'll be very little people in the army and we will have insufficient people to help fight and protect Singapore in an event of an attack. Singapore is a relatively small country and our only resource is manpower, therefore, it's important for us to have a large army that is always ready and on standby to protect us during a battle.

National Service also helps to create a bond between all male Singaporeans and help them to develop a sense of patriotism so that they know they all have a part to play in protecting Singapore. Of course, women do have a part to play too. However, as women tend to be more weak physically and may not be able to take the arduous training and hard work, instead of joining National Service, they can help by protecting and taking good care of themselves and their families while men help to fight during a war.

Men will also learn more about teamwork during National Service as they will all be working together towards a same goal and mission. Stepping out of their comfort zone will also teach them to persevere and not give up easily and learn to take and endure hard work.

Hence, I feel that National Service should be mandatory for male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as they help to train male Singaporeans to be both physically and mentally fit. Though National Service is hard, those that finished the 2 years of National Service come out being both physically and mentally strong. Singapore has a small population size, unlike other countries. If we do not make National Service to be compulsory for all male Singaporeans, we would not have enough men to protect Singapore. Though some might say that we do not have much chance to win if other countries decided to go to war with us, we would still be able to at least resist and have some chance of winning. As for the photo with the NS man having a maid to carry his bag, this shows us that more and more male Singaporeans are becoming "as fragile as strawberries". (Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong described young Singaporeans as"fragile like strawberries" on the Singapore Scout Association's 100th anniversary dinner . Said SM Goh 'Fortunately, we have our National Service. Otherwise, we too may have a "strawberries" generation.' adapted from http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/04/singaporean-strawberries/) )

This tells us that more and more Singaporeans prefer to stay in front of the computer instead of going out. That's why National Service should be mandatory for these male Singaporeans so that they would be physically and mentally strong instead of being as fragile as strawberries like that NS man we saw in the picture which needs his maid to carry his bag.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it serves some purpose. Like

- There will be people to protect the singapore if there is an invasion occur. NS teach the teenagers how to protect the country. As Singapore is an independant country, so we had to protect the country on our own!

- It help to train the teenager in both physical and mental. Physical training like running will help the teenager to put on muscles and have a better stamina. This will help the teenager to have a better quality of health condition. The military training is tough and strict, there is a fixed time timetable for the teenager to process on. This will help to train the teenagers to become more responsible , more descipline and more independant. In the surrounding of mature people, the teenager will also become more mature and know how to make a wise decision.

- The NS will also help the teenager to develop senses of patriotism through education or activities. This sense of patriotism can be the engine for the warriors to keep them fighting.

When there is an invasion occur to singapore who is going to protect us? It must be the singaporeans so the teenager must be train hard to protect the singapore~

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Yes, National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans as it is the job of all Singapore citizens to protect our homeland, Singapore. Although NS is not compulsory for women, for some reasons, it is compulsory for all males. Hence, it is a good chance for our fellow male Singaporeans to show how much they care for our country. NS helps you to understand yourself better as stepping out of your comfort zone will help you discover things about yourself that you may not know. It will make you realise that you too can be a good leader. The discipline instilled in you will, in turn, strengthen your mental power and help you in making decisive choices in others aspects of life.

It is true to a certain extent that the Army makes a man out of a boy, and no man can deny the good it has done for them in terms of mental and physical strengthening. In the event of war, military training will save lives. Hence, both the soldier and his family that had made the ultimate sacrifice do deserve to be honored and respected accordingly.

For all the good that National Service does, it is worth to be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. Mandatory means necessary and I believe that all male Singaporeans are necessary to serve the National Service. National Service, or army conscription in Singapore, was first introduced in 1967 due to pressing issues such as national security after Singapore's "forced" independence in 1965. In 1971, the British completely pulled out of Singapore. It has been 41 years since the introduction of NS.

Firstly, when a male completed his full-time service, he is considered to be "operationally ready", and is thereafter known as an Operationally-Ready National Serviceman (NSman). When such, it means that he is ready for any wars regardless of age or time and be prepared to serve the nation without fail. In such a small island, Singapore is indeed lack of manpower. Thus, all male Singaporeans should serve National Service because if they do not serve the nation, no one else does. Foreigners will definitely support their own countries and do Singapore expect females to defend our country? Definitely no.

Secondly, National Service also benefit males in mental and physical. Its a new challenged to them and let them know, are they going to take up the challenge, or are they giving up halfway. In 2years of National Service, males are trained to be fit and also mentally strong. This benefit both the nation and themselves because when males are out finding jobs, they will not easily give up because they know that the worry or difficulty is nothing compared to the time in National Service.

Concluding, National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. Although in the past 41 years, there are no sight of wars between countries with us, there is still a must to continue in case of any wars in the future.' Prevention is better than cure' . This sentence indeed come in hand for the situation of this. Always be ready, rather than sorry.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Yes, National Service should be mandatory for all male singaporeans. National Service may seem useless, making us(Males) suffer two years in army, wasting time as females would have been way ahead after the we have served their N.S but it is actually really important and serves a great purpose. First of all, the main purpose- To train all of us and when there is a crisis, a war, we would be capable of defending our own country. Secondly, it turns 'boys' into 'men'. The training is tough and it toughtens the 'boys'. In the process, our character changes too. A childish and immauture boy like us, might be trained into a serious and solemn man. When under National Service, males will get an experience all kinds of hardship. Regardless you rich or poor, you will be treated the same. There is a saying that goes like this,'When the going gets tough, the tough gets going'. During the whole training, it will bring out the best of us. Only the ones with strong determination will survive the training. Well, it isn't the end of the world, if you have weak determination. They will make sure you will be trained and pass all the tests.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. First i would like to explain what is National Service. National Service is also known Conscription in Singapore, it requires all male Singaporean citizens and second-generation permanent residents who have reached the age of 18 to enroll in the military. They serve a two-year period as Full Time National Servicemen (NSFs), either in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), Singapore Police Force (SPF), or the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF).

When a conscript completes his full-time service, he is considered to be "operationally ready", and is thereafter known as an Operationally-Ready National Serviceman (NSman).

Why is National Service be mandatory for all male Singaporeans? First it helps to discipline our male teenage Singaporeans and by doing so, it also lowers Singapore's crime rate from 19.6% on 2005 to about 11%.

Secondly, it helps to build up the country's defense against invaders and with all the training in the two years, the male Singaporeans will be strong and fit and thus making our country a more healthier one. NS will build up one's character, and that is an important thing in life. NS also helps in boding male Singaporeans together, this will certainly contribute in building our social defense.

Lastly, two years in the army will definitely help to train a person's character and teaches him on how to tackle the challenges in his life.

So i strongly think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.Thank You.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Yes, I strongly feel that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

As Singapore is a "little red dot", it's essential to have a strong and powerful army to defend and protect Singapore in any cases of war or attack in the near future. Hence, through national service, males can be trained to be fitter and at the same time, strengthen their physical abilities. They will also learn to be more independent and disciplined since the trainings will be tough and they will not have their parents spoon-feeding them in any ways. In this way, Singapore will be more or less ready in times of war.

During this national service period, males will learn lots of new stuffs, persevere more, forge good friendships with their fellow mates and experience things that we don't do in our daily lives.

Since women are weak in terms of physical attributes, they can help and play a role by taking good care of their families, ensuring their family members are healthy and fine.

Hence, in conclusion, i feel that national service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Firstly, as everybody know, NS is a phase whereby Singaporean males are being prepared to protect and defend the country in times of need. Therefore, I strongly believe that NS should be mandatory for Singaporean males.

One of the reason that NS should be mandatory is so that Singapore would already prepare a defense system so that Singapore would not be left defenseless during the time of crisis. This will help to maintain order in the country and also this will let the citizens of Singapore feel safe and secured, knowing that there are soldiers that are protecting their homeland. However, having said this, why cant we let women be involve in NS? Here are the reasons.

There is a common belief among people that men are stronger than women. Therefore, this would be another reason that I would like to elaborate on. Although a majority of people will not agree to what I mention, I strongly believe that it is one of the main factors why the government did not entitle women to join NS. This is because males have more strength, willpower and mental power. As NS consist of many physical exercises that are tough,challenging and harsh, women are believed not to be able to endure these challenges. This is because women are weak and are not able to handle the thought of constantly being shouted at. Here are three links to videos that will show you why I stress on the point whereby women cannot handle the harsh and high standard that are required in NS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgbe0xbswGU&feature;=related (episode 7)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNTgRiNN3Q&feature;=related (episode 9)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiOO_m2J6jM&feature;=related (episode 12)

Therefore, having said all this, I strongly believe that some of you will already grasp the idea why NS should be mandatory for Singaporean males. This is because without being able to depend on women to defend our country, the only choice left is to make sure men does it instead. Without men, our country will be left defenseless.

We should also take into consideration that if NS was not made as mandatory, who would defend Singapore? Is we actually made it as a choice, who would volunteer? We should not assume that there are a lot of patriots in this country. Therefore by making it mandatory, we can relax as we know that there are people serving the nation.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I feel that National Service should be mandatory for all male singaporeans. As you know, we might not know when there will be war and when there wont be . So its better to be safe than sorry , preparing beforehand . National service not only prepare male singaporeans for war but also build up their physical attributes . I feel that it is compulsory to all males because the trainings they receive in there would be very tough and therefore their minds would mature into adults and would behave better. It should be mandatory also for the sake of the country . To prepare for the war, they need to have the strength to go out on a war and beat others. Therefore , if a war happens , there will be enough soldiers to go out on a fight. If national service is not introduce, when there is war time, everyone will not know what to do and will eventually get defeated. So , i feel that National Service should be mandatory for all male singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

In my opinion, national service should be mandatory. I feel that it is a very important process for singaporean males. National service trains males in physical and mental terms. It helps them to become a better person, physically fit and mentally build. I think this is what all Singaporean males should go through. The 2 year course for all 18 year old males is also useful if Singapore happens to be in any emergency, for example, if a war breaks out, Singapore would need the males to help defend our country. Without trained men, Singapore would be in danger during those times. The NS also trains men to have courage, and be able to fight for our country , and not back out during Singapore's times of need. Thus I think National service is a very important process for Singapore males.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

I strongly believe that national service is madatory for all male singaporeans.Firstly if our country does not have national service our country's defence will be very poor and weak.hence singapore will serve as an easy target for other countries to attck. Secondly, if a war broke up between Singapore and another country, singapore will definetly lose as we do not have enough manpower to fight and protect our country.it is important that all male singaporeans at the age of 18 to serve the military. National service trains people to be physically and mentally prepared when a war breaks out.it also ensures that males will be brave enough to fight and protect our country and the people of singapore when a war breaks out.males would have the courage to fight with others and not run away like a coward.in order for Singapore to be a country that is strong,powerful,it is absoulutely important they all male singaporeans to go to the national service.We Would then be able to defend ourselves

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

Yes, I think that it is mandatory. Firstly, national service is a 2 year course that every 18 year old boy have to go. The reason why it is compulsary for all boys to go is such that Singapore will always be prepared for any emergency situations. Not only does NS help to protect the country, it also helps to improve the stamina of those who are weaker physically and maintain their physical fitness. For example, if there is a terrorist attack, the army will always be there to try and counter the attack. In order to provide the country with a good army, they are bring trained from morning to night on weekdays. Not only does this benefit the country, it also benefits your ownself

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
2 points

In my opinion, I feel that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. The reason why the National Service act was made mandatory for all male Singaporeans, since 1967, was because the Singapore government felt that Singapore needed a substantial military force. We needed a strong military force to defend our country as Singapore is a small country; it is very easy to become the target of others. Therefore, in order to achieve this goal, it is compulsory for all male Singaporeans to enlist into the army after age eighteen.

If National Service is not made mandatory for all male Singaporeans, I doubt that there would be any 'volunteers' at all, especially in the twenty-first century where competitive between anyone for everything is strong. It is highly unlikely that parents would encourage their child to enlist into the army as this will mean that the child will have to sacrifice two years of time of studying and contributing to the society at a later age compared to those who did not go for the National Service.

The most frequently debated issue is about the fairness of having only male Singaporeans to be mandatory for National Service. Let me share my opinions on this issue. I feel that National Service should be mandatory to only male Singaporeans. Although every Singaporean has the responsibility to protect your own country, Singapore, when in threat, I feel that young men should be in the frontline when it comes to defending your own country. This is because the physical ability between women and men are vastly different. It is a fact that when it comes to physical strength, males are definitely stronger than females in this area. Meanwhile, there are many other ways for women to protect their own country. One way is to take care of their own families while their husbands are defending the country another is to work as nurse by treating to the injured.

There are many other advantages for National Service to be mandatory for all male Singaporeans too. One of the advantages is that by making National Service compulsory for all male Singaporeans mean that the level of physical strength, mental strength, sense of responsibility and discipline will greatly go up in all male Singaporeans once they finished their National Service. This will prepare them well enough when they start to contribute to the society as well as overcoming obstacles in the journey of their lives.

In conclusion, I feel that it is extremely important for National Service to be mandatory for all male Singaporeans based on the above points that I had discussed about.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Yes, National Service should be mandatory. Man who have passed out from national service have learn many life-long values and practices that turned them from boys to man. It has also taught boys to be responsible. National Service has also trained many well-refined soldiers to protect our country when in times of danger. Singapore is a small country without any major resources therefore when in times of war, Singapore will bound to fall. However, with national service, boys that are trained to become soldiers will step up and serve the country. Singapore can only depend on the soldiers and the technology it possess, but with only the technology. If National Service is no mandatory, there will be too little soldiers to depend on that will lead to the downfall of Singapore. National Service has also taught males to persevere in the things we do. Although the training is harsh and difficult, we can learn many new things from national service and i personally feel that the 2years is worth all the moral values we learn in national service. National Service has been around for 40years and this is part of a culture in male Singaporeans, if this culture is eradicated, male Singaporeans would not be the same as before 40years back. They would all be weak and unreliable. In conclusion, National Service SHOULD BE mandatory. Thank you!

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I think NS should be mandatory for all male singaporeans. Our current generation of male youngsters lack self-discipline. NS not only helps them to discipline themselves more but build up their immunity as well.

With more parents sparing the rod nowadays, more kids are going astray, resulting in lack of discipline in themselves, This however does not occur to every male in the country. It depends on how one is brought up. Say for an example which has been oftenly mentioned, whereby a youngster in the NS actually got his domestic helper to carry his own bag. Many think that he is a spoiled brat, lazy, etc. But has it ever occurred to anyone that it might be due to poor upbringing? A typical scene of a singaporean child practically ordering his domestic helper around is not rarely seen these days. Some even give excuses that it was their parents who actually taught them to do so. So why not send them away from their home, further away from their domestic helpers, and especially from their parents who pamper them too much?

NS also helps build up one's immunity, and he would be less likely to fall ill. With the new generation of kids more reliant on their parents and surroundings, NS does a great part in boosting their independence and pride. Independence is one thing everyone requires to have in order to survive in the 21st century. With tough training and sleepless nights, males are actually given experiences on what the future may be like. Staying up late to do work, or having to do things the hard way in order to earn a living. Currently, having a university certificate is no big deal. If one cannot rely on his brains to survive, he will have to rely on his brawn, which lead us to strength and immunity.

Also, during wars, if there is lack of manpower, even commoners can help out since they were trained in NS. During NS, they not only have to endure several hardships, but recognize the ways of using weapons, which will certainly be of great help during wars, which we hope will never happen. With Singapore lacking of everything especially resources, manpower could be our only way out. Say for example if we were to send a dummy who doesn't know how to even hold a gun out on the field, wouldn't it be better if we were to just send a whole army of useless people out to commit suicide and store time for the time being while we think of a better plan? A much much better choice would be to send a skilled army on the battlefield, which would reduce losses and damages.

Some might think that NS would take up a lot of time which could be spent on studying. On the contrary, it would enable males to be more appreciative of what they have, and thus they would know how to manage their time better. They would realise that studying is a big deal and if they don't, they most probably have to turn to hardcore work like what they do in NS. I'm not stating that people in the army are not smart. But consider this, if you have a choice of working in a classy business office with air-conditioning and comfy chairs, would you want to work there or doing sweaty and tiring jobs out there on the field?

Some may turn to interest and choose whichever they are interested in. But majority would prefer to work in an office. Also, NS will help singaporean males become more matured and brawny, which will serve great help in our country's economy. Thus, I conclude that NS in definitely mandatory for all male singaporeans as it will not only benefit our country, but the people as well.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I, had once asked myself the same question although i am a girl . However , when I come to think about it in depth, I finally had an answer .

"If you who are growing up do not understand that you have to got to defend this , then I say in the end we will lose ." This was once said by Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew in 1967 . So , what should we understand ? Do you know that National Service are the only solution to the problem when Singapore's security and survival as a nation was left hanged when British decided to withdraw the forces from Singapore ? This made male Singaporeans back then agreed to attend NS . The main objective of having NS is to train Singaporeans to become loyal,

have a vigilant and readiness to protect the things they cherish . By attending National Service , one , will learn to be self discipline in whatever he do . It is also for the benefit of themselves . When they are going out to work one fine day , discipline ,responsibility and commitment are the essential things that employers look out for . I am sure all of you would agree that employers would not want to have workers which likes to slack hence causes problems after problems in the firm right ? Besides that , when male Singaporeans are to attend NS , they will have a sense of urgency in whatever they do . They will also learn to appreciate the things they have and not to be complacent . The tough training and harsh life in National Service will become an eye-opener for all of them . Without them knowing , NS has shaped them to be a better nation . Apart from all that can be gained and what can benefit us by attending National Service , we should not forgot that Singapore is our homeland . This is where we belong !So why is there a need for male Singaporeans nowadays to keep complaining about NS ? They should be proud to say to people that they are physically strong than women and they can face all the obstacles that they are going to face in National Service without much difficulties .However they should remember that everything they do in NS is also for the benefit for Singapore and Singaporeans are depending on them for security . Why should we rely on others if we can somehow protect ourselves ? What would happen if National Service does not exist and we have to rely 100% on other countries ? What if one day , a conflict would happen between Singapore and the other countries ? Think about it and you will end up agreeing that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans , like me .

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

It should be mandatory as Singapore is a small country, with a small population compared to the other countries and could not depend on a person's choice to join the National Service. Singapore is an independent country, and if a war breaks up, Singapore will have to stand alone. If there are little people in the National Service, Singapore may not be able to defend itself and may be defeated by other countries easily. By having National Service to be mandatory to all male Singaporeans, Singapore will have a strong army and will be fully prepared if a war ever breaks out. As males are naturally fitter than females, it should be mandatory for males to join the National Service. Although National Service may seem a torture to males as they are made to wake up early, endure trainings and are expected to follow every instructions given, it is a good way to built up one's physical and mental health, by being able to persevere through the trainings for two years.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

In my point of view, National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. As a Singaporean, I think that protecting and embracing our country - our home - is important. Singapore is a small country, and our human resources are already very limited compared to countries like China, Russia, etc. With already such a small population, if part of our male population do not participate in National Service, the level of our security will decrease. This will lead to possibly more terrorists invading our country, as they will know that our country is not careful or safe enough that they will be unsuccessful in their invasion. Invasion of our country will further lead to chaos among the whole of Singapore. It will also spoil our reputation of being one of the safest countries in the world. Also, when wars arise, Singaporeans would not be able to defend themselves due to the lack of human resources. Like what happened in World War II, we would be captured by more powerful countries and lose our freedom. Citizens will also get tortured by the people who captured our country. Nobody would want to be controlled and tortured by others. Thus, to maintain our freedom and prevent suffering, we have to make our home a safer place to live in, and the one such way is to make National Service mandatory, so that there will be people securing our country all the time from disasters.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

In my own opinion, NS should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. My reason to this is similar to the others who agree that NS should be compulsory for all male Singaporeans – to protect Singapore in times of war, to train to be more disciplined, to build up their bodies and nurturing teens to adults. If male Singaporeans doesn’t go for the NS, who does? The females? The elderly? If NS was not compulsory, many males would not have wanted to join the NS. Reasons being, they are lazy, they think that NS is tiring, it wastes their time, they want to do other stuff they are interested in, and so on. Imagine a minority of males protecting Singapore in times of war (or even a army of females and elderly); Singapore is bound to fall in the hands of the enemy with such a weak and small army force. Hence, I think that NS should be mandatory for all males.

Males need to remember; going to the NS is not just only for the sake protecting the country, it is also to protect your families, friends and home from dangers and wars. They need to realize that they are important to Singapore, where our tiny country is easier to be targeted due to our size. The other countries would also consider thrice before attacking our country after seeing our strong army – they might not win against us.

I think that the NS could also let male Singaporeans realize that they are needed to protect Singapore, and to instill the feeling of being proud to be a Singaporean. However, I think that the government could also choose a portion of the females to join the NS. In this era of time, I believe that women can also do the things man could do. Females could do work that supports the males, like being in the medic and help whenever someone gets hurt, but they could also be trained to be in the front line and fight with the males.

In conclusion, with my reasons to support my opinion, I think that NS should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Yes, National Service (NS) should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. I think that Singaporeans are feeling complacent and over-pampered, thinking that nothing bad is going to happen to our country. If you walk up to some random person on the road and ask if they are ok with sacrificing themselves for Singapore, they would probably say no.

Singaporeans need to have a sense of patriotism. The purpose of NS is to instill the values of discipline,endurance and perseverance into Singaporean males. Even though some people in NS dread it and thinks of it as a waste of time, I think the majority will get the massage.

If you saw your homeland being evaded by some other country and there is nothing anybody can do about it, wouldn't you be very angry? In conclusion, Ns should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

This is because when we have have the rule of having National Service as compulsory, Men of Singapore will start to feel the importance of protecting their own country and not running away when we are under a attack. Thus they will build the 'Singapore pride' in them and we still have a main defense line to depend on and can be independent, not relying on other countries. This is also where the men turn from boys to men as when we are away from our families and friends, we will start to make decision by themselves and start to learn the qualities and essential things on how to lead a family. Thus I think that it should be compulsory.Thank you.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Yes, I think that National Service should be mandatory. Firstly, being a part of the country, all the male Singaporeans should play a part in building up a defense wall for Singapore by joining the NS. Singapore is just a small island and if our people doesn't want to help protect it, then who will? If there's no such thing as National Service, our country will have trouble facing enemies if war occurs.

Why must the males be the ones protecting the country? What about the females? Well, its a bit unfair though, for only males to join the NS and not the females. But if you think in another perspective, its actually quite fair. Most females are not physically strong as the males and thus, it will be tough for them to join the NS and endure such harsh trainings.

National Service benefits actually. It helps to train the NS man both physically and mentally. Physically in the way that it will help to make the NS man fitter and healthier while mentally is that it will help to train the NS man to more enduring to the harsh conditions faced by them during the National Service.

In conclusion, NS may not be a bad thing as it actually does benefits the NS men too.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I feel that NS should be mandatory as it makes male singaporeans more disciplined. At the same time, they will be fitter as they will be undergoing tough trainings and exercises. They will be more responsible for everything they do too. Also, Singapore is not a very big country. Thus, the more we will need National Service. Based on the fact that Singapore is small and manpower is not as good as other countries, if other countries invade Singapore, it will be a confirm defeat unless we seek help from other nations. Under training from NS, male singaporeans will be prepared for war anytime. Their mindset of caring about themselves only will also change. Instead, through the tough trainings from NS, they will protect Singapore, our only home rather than migrating to some other country and stay there. Thus, it is important that all male singaporeans undergo NS.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I agree that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.The mos important reason, like everybody said, is to train them so that they are able to protect our country in times of war. Another reason I think why government has made National Service mandatory for all male Singaporeans is to provide a chance for them to exercise in order to keep them fit and healthy. I think female Singaporeans can also join National Service but the trainings might be arranged according to their condition as female are naturally weaker than male hence they cannot have the same kind of training.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Yes I think it should be mandatory. The introduction of National Service is good for our young country, because it helps us to increase our defense power. To the individual, it will enhance their leadership skills, their independence, their perseverance, and confidence level to handle future challenges. Our country has limited resources, thus the government has to introduce this policy and let the young to understand the development of Singapore, allowing them to be physically and mentally stronger. The environment in NS will be like a new experience for them, compared to life in school or at home. It will allow them to have team spirit, to bond among buddies, teammates, to stay with people of a different race and religion, to understand them more. With that, they will also understand the disciplines in life. It will make a positive change in their learning attitude and values in life, to let them appreciate what our country has now, what we can access to and to see their value to the country. Lastly, the National Service can also excel their hidden potential.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Of course must go. Now got free iPad for all NS recruits. Who don't want?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
0 points

I think that national service should indeed be mandatory for all male Singaporeans for a few reasons. I think that national service is what bonds us Singaporeans together, to achieve racial harmony; national service may be a contributing factor. Even though when men enter national service, they may by at a disadvantage compared to females of the same age who enter the work force two or three years later than men. When the men complete their national service and apply for a job, if they are competing with a woman of the same age, the woman would have two or three years prior work experience and would be more likely to get the job. However, that might not be the case. Even though the woman may have more work experience, companies may be more likely to choose the man be cause a woman may be entitled to maternity leave should she choose to have a baby and the company would have to pay her even though she does no work. With that being said, men still have an equal chance at a job as women so national service should not be abolished.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
1 point

Not totally true. With National Service, male Singaporeans may NOT be bonded. Some Singaporeans are extreme racist and they may not change, even when they go through NS.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
AeroHead(1) Disputed
3 points

Yes i agree with u but u yourself said it granz SOME........ not all .... which is such a small minority....

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
0 points

In my defense I agree that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. But first let me define the words in the topic given. I am taking National Service to be compulsory military service. While I am taking the male Singaporeans for this certain situation as males above the age of 18 years old who can only be exempted from entering National Service at the age of 18 if they are halfway through their education in Junior College or Polytechnics or Private schools. Looking at our current population of 5.08 million it can be said that close to 30% of that number are either foreigners or permanent residents (PRs). Since it is not mandatory for the former mentioned groups to participate in National Service, there are (estimated) 70% of the Singaporean left.Out of the 70% of Singaporeans there are 974 males for every 1000 females. And in this number of men there is an even smaller number of those who are at the age of 18. What I am trying to get at is that there are so little males in Singapore and they should be trained how to serve the country. Even in a time of crisis,if they are unable to fight for their country at least they can keep some of their family or friends safe if they have some basic knowledge on how to protect the people of Singapore. As what I have said about National Service,it is about serving the military.That does not mean all the males have to take part in physical engagement of an opponent to fight or defend yourself,or as a matter train yourself. Those who are unable to meet the physical requirements or have medical reasons why they are unable to serve the country physically can in a way help 'mentally'. These people can be the ones who help to plan the trainings,or do follow backs so that they an observe how the males undergoing National Service can improve. They can be the brains behind practice missions,and can help with paperwork and taking inventory. They can also be useful by collecting feedback from the rest of them to further improve the programs.

Given that Singapore has a small population,and thus a small army we should try to recruit as many people as possible and of course we should first start by recruiting those of a better physical structure,the males. There are many countries which are much bigger then Singapore who have huge armies. They too have pans to make their armies infallible,and when in time of war they may conquer or be conquered. For us to not succumb to being conquered we should have a good army which has as much manpower as needed,this is a video on President Barack Obama (of the US) planning to have mandatory service for American men too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ

Of course when men serve the army they shall get incentives such as allowances each month and such.Thus,National Service should be compulsory for all Singaporean males.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
5 points

I believe that National Service should not be mandatory.

National Service does not train every man to be more responsibility:

As many people says, National Service will nurture boys to men, make them more responsible. These may be true to SOME people, not all. One of the famous newsletter is the 'National serviceman needs maid to carry his backpack'. How is this responsible when the man was busily SMSing away, letting the maid to carry the bag? Also, another one I recently found. Instead of a maid, it's a dad... The link is:

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110327-270356.html

http://sglinks.com/pages/958205-maid-story-father-now-carries-pack-ns-man/p4 (Dad)

Precious time is wasted:

Another reason is that the National Service is 2 years, which is very long (in fact, one of the longest in the world). We are now in 21st Century, where time is extremely important. A quote of one of the person that experiences National Service and agree that National Service would not be mandatory.

"We ain't living in the 80s or 90s anymore. It's the 21st Century. Time is what money can't buy, just like you can't buy back your yesterday. A lot of accomplishment can be done in 2 years, completion of studies, start up of business, and lots more. Sad to say, that 2 years is crucial moment."

That is quite true.

In a battle:

Of course, this is unlikely but let's say if there is war. some National Servicemen will be reluctant to sacrifice their lives in an undetermined war. Singapore has a higher chance of defeat as other countries have more soldiers or even more advanced technology than Singapore. Some Singaporeans have the mind-set to save themselves before others.

With current technology, they even researched about satellite laser weapon. It seems that it is useless to send human armies when advanced technology can create armed robots for war purposes, this is partially true.

The link is:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/03/washington/03laser.html (Satellite Laser Weapon)

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/10/ tt-tt/ (Armed robots groomed for war)

Deaths:

There are cases of deaths in NS, but they are hushed-up by the government. Maybe the government did it to protect Singaporeans, or because they are afraid Singaporeans know the real truths behind the death cases. Shouldn't Singaporeans have the right to know what they were going to do, especially when they are risking their lives?

I'll end this with a quote I found in one of the forums. "Patriotism and loyalty cannot be forced. It is ultimately up to an individual whether he wants to serve the country."

Ttd. Vito

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
chiayee(2) Disputed
2 points

I do not agree on this although it IS true that not ALL men will learn the good out of it. This might sound a little harsh, but, if they don't learn the good qualities like perseverance etc from all those trainings in NS, then they never will, until a time when it is too late to regret. For example, when one (who does not go for NS) goes out for business and he just get thrown off with all the setbacks that everyone definitely will experience one day, and refuse to stand up again,then what is the point of using the 2 years to study and study when you just "become a walking book of knowledge yet is just a frog in the well who has never experienced the world outside"? I would say that the ones who go NS and learn the good qualities will become even more successful than not going.

Also, you say that some men will be reluctant to sacrifice their lives in an undetermined war, it is true. However, that mindset can change if you mature and know that you have to protect your country no matter what. Even terrorists are willing to sacrifice themselves to go attack another country even it might not work out in the end (not that i think that they are right in doing so), but the thing is, they ARE willing to sacrifice their lives for something that they want to accomplish.

Lastly, where is the place that a Singaporean is going to live in for the rest of their lives? Some might migrate to other countries, but Singapore is the place that we are born in, studied in, made our friends in, and for most of us, to have a family in. Are you willing to just see Singapore losing in a war and getting controlled by other countries again? I am just a PR, but if i have to see Singapore getting controlled by other countries, I will feel really angry too, just like how I will feel if i see my homeland Malaysia get invaded and controlled by others.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Garbage Disputed
1 point

Yes people do suffer from setbacks in business, but everyone fails. From there they can learn from it and will stand up again. Why won't they stand up again? when a man trips, he will stand up. The outside world is where the person faces a lot of problems in their carrer. They will lear good qualities and will learn how to face trouble.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
KaWei(2) Disputed
2 points

@ Vitorio

I agree that National Service does not train every man to be responsible BUT it does train the majority. Of course there will be exception, like for example, the NS man letting his maid carrying his backpack while SMSing away. Not all boys will walk away from national service as well-refined man, but the majority will as there will always be a exception.

@Precious time wasted,

2 Years is a lot and you can do a lot in 2years. However, you will learn a lot in the 2years you spend in National Service. For example, you will learn what is true teamwork, perseverance, respect, responsibility and to be independent etc. This are all known as life-long values which can't be bought by money either. While spending your time in National Service, you may meet some potential business partner and some life-long friends therefore, the 2years you spend in national service is not wasted after all.

@In a battle:

Singaporeans have the mindset to save themselves before others, i agree. However, we cannot solely depend on machines and technology to defend ourselves, we would need manpower too as no machine can replace a human.

@Deaths

Yes, there are deaths but like what i said before, it's just the minority. How do you know that death cases are being hushed up? Isn't just a rumor? The National Service officers have taken care of these young cadets but there will be exceptions,of course. These cases of deaths can be prevented if these young cadets get well-prepared for the service before they get enrolled in it as majority of these cases are related to the victim being physically unfit.

Thanks you.

P.S. I hope i did not offend you in any way.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

Of course Ka Wei, there will be exception of those who will benefit or not.

Precious time wasted:

True, we may learn a lot in NS in 2 years time. But all those qualities does NOT need to be learnt in NS.

In a Battle:

True, that NO machines can replace a human. But they can aid us. We can use them for dangerous purposes such as military purposes to simple things like education purposes.

Deaths:

I admit that this cases may NOT be 100% true. But the officers can do their part by not over stressing the cadets. What lead the cadets to death is excessive training or maybe other things. The officers have the role to train them, yes but not till the extent of deaths.

P.S. Don't worry, I didn't get offended. :D

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
mohamedrdzn(1) Disputed
2 points

Granz, i would like to say that your point was quite fascinating. In fact, it depends on how you at it. Like this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3wi2Tt4Pc

National Service is the time where you contribute back to the society which had brought you up to a high status. In addition, time is not being wasted as the sweat you perspire out is what you are giving back to society and going towards a healthier lifestyle. You do not have to waste time to find time to exercise, when you in National Service you get free exercise periods. Thus in the end i would like to say it really matters on how you see an object.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I do not agree with the point of deaths. As these deaths are mainly just due to the NS men overstretching their limits , furthurmore , these deaths occur only once in a blue moon. I feel that servicemen should know what their limits are , to prevent anymore serious damage or deaths in that matter. The government probably did not blow up the death cases as blowing it up would show that the government would be insensitive to these deaths , thus not blowing the matter up. Furthurmore , the family would also have mixed feelings if their son would be in the media spotlight.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

True, that the deaths occur only once in a blue moon. But a death occurring once in a blue moon is still a death. The officers have the role of training the cadets, physically and mentally, but they cannot overstretch the limit of those cadets to the extent that the cadets would die. Of course, it would be insensitive to blow up the death cases to the public. But what if the family allows the public to know?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
mssamantha(40) Disputed
2 points

Two things to think about:

1. When (and if) NS overstretch their limits, are they to blame or is their training to blame?

2. Should the government and media be obligated to show a true picture of NS and all things related to it? Should it be kept secret?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Garbage Disputed
1 point

Did you look at the link? Did you look at the link? Did you look at the link? Did you look at the link? Did you look at the link?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

I agree with Granz in the war part.Because with Singapore's current technology, singapore cannot even compete with other countries.One main reason is that we have no natural resources.We are still struggling to survive until today.Another reason is that our land space is too small to even build military facilities.Singaporeans are scared to die that when there is danger, they "run" away instead of protecting the country.I think that with the SLW technology.... singapore can be roasted in a few seconds,therefore whats the point of building an army

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
tliting(2) Disputed
1 point

I do not agree with you. How can precious time possibly be wasted when males are training to be fitter to protect and fight for the country in times of wars or attacks? Males should be honoured and proud instead, since they are doing something for the country. In addition, I believe that one will learn quite a few moral values during this period of time, and experience new things which we most probably wouldn't go through if we hadn't been to NS. So, therefore i disagree with you saying that "precious time is wasted".

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

I agree on males will be fitter, learn few moral values and new experience. But think of it...

Fitness: MUST it be in NS? Without NS, we still can be fit.

Moral Values: It does NOT need to be in NS. We can learn moral values in school, even your parents can teach you that.

New Experience: The new experience that we learn in NS may not apply to current 21st Century (this depends on your future occupation of course).

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
3 points

How do you that doing NS is very annoying ? You have not tried NS right? And how can you say that doing NS is a waste of time? Doing NS can help strengthen yourself and make you healthier. Do you have all the time to play computer games? When you grew up and go into the workforce, do you still play computer games instead of completing the job assigned to you?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
*Hilman(17) Disputed
3 points

Er,shouldn't this be put at the 'Yes,it should be mandatory' section?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
3 points

I feel that National Service, NS for short, should not be made compulsory. However, it is not for the reasons many people think such as, the two years could be used to pursue a career or that it is too tough, just to list a few. I think that NS should be voluntary. By now, I expect many of the opposition to be ranting and raving about people not willing to join. I ask you to sit down and think. WHY are people not willing to join? It is simple. At the age of 18, which is the mandatory age youths must sign up for NS, many of us are still childish. We are too pampered. Iphone, ipad, macbook, ... We are MATERIALISTIC! We have been spoon-fed for most of our life that we do not want to experience 'tough' life. But, I ask you all a question. Why do we think that NS is a tough life? I am sure many of us, myself included, think about push-ups, running up and down, drills in hot sun and endurance test when we hear the word NS. But why does this torturing image pop into our minds. Instead, why don't we think of honor and pride when we serve our country, the thrill of holding a rifle and shooting, the respect we earn in our uniforms, the strips we earn when we are promoted and soon we may be in-charge of our own platoon. Do we have no sense of patriotism? Are we going to run away when we are under attack? Perhaps when we sit back and really think about it, we may find that NS isn't that bad after all. Thus I end my argument with a question for you think about; Are you willing to sacrifice some comfort to protect yourself, your family, your friends and your country?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

Hady - that is a very thought provoking question. Well done.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
azrina(2) Disputed
0 points

I think your point about youths being childish is the reason why we must make NS as a mandatory thing. NS is a platform for someone childish to grow up into a mature being. In NS, there are a lot of decisions that are to be made and you can't make a decision without having the maturity and wisdom. So if you're saying that you don't want to grow up even at the age of 18, when is that going to happen? If you don't want to grow up even when there is people guiding you, who will help you then? Yes, you can help yourself, but with that mindset of not maturing at the age of 18, you will never be matured enough to think about making decisions.

Even you yourself mention that you are materialistic. Don't you think its time to forget about comfort for a while and try to live in hardship? This also why NS is here. It is there so that you can see not all things are about comfort. There will be a time where you will face tough times. If you are not being prepared now, do you think you can handle the challenges in the coming future? Remember, life has its ups and downs. If you're not given a challenge, like enduring the hardships in NS, when will you learn?

There is another point I would like to say. You said that 'torturing' images pop out in our mind. Did you ever wonder why? Have you ever consider that it is to make us feel proud that because of these 'torturous' events is a platform that will bring us to the end product? The product of being able to serve your country in honor and pride. Thus, I really think that NS should be mandatory for male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
2 points

I disagree that NS is a platform for someone childish to grow up into a mature being. NS is basically a phase in life where we are trained to be protectors of our country. Maturity is based on individual. A person may mature at 8 years old or 30 years old. It all depends on him. You ask me whether its time to forget about comfort for a while and try to live in hardship. I have already experienced hardships in life which I daresay none of you have ever experienced. It your last paragraph, you mentioned about my torturing images and proceeded to rebut that statement. However, from your rebuttal statements, I can see that you obviously have not read my whole argument and you probably just read bits and pieces. This obviously shows your inefficiency. Another possibly is that you are just quoting certain parts of my argument just so you may take a swing at me. Well, it has backfired on you and I can see that you are probably just restating everything I said. It doesn't take a genius to see that you have mainly just rephrased what I had said. For example, you mentioned, about considering that the torturous training (which is the correct terminology, not events) is to make us feel proud. Did I not mentioned about the honor and pride when we serve our country, the thrill of holding a rifle and shooting, the respect we earn in our uniforms, the strips we earn when we are promoted and soon we may be in-charge of our own platoon? Those were my exact words. From here I can see that you basically just summarized my own statement. Thus, your dispute is weak, though it was entertaining to see someone attempting to take a shot at me. Good attempt.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

That is their own choice. Why should others decide for them? If they do not want it do not.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
*Hilman(17) Disputed
3 points

So,why is it that I do not want to go to school but I still turn up for it almost everyday?I do not want it but do I have a choice?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
hammertime(165) Disputed
3 points

That is quite different. Adults make decisions for the stupid kids. School is perhaps not as much fun, but if you're an adult, then you see how happy you must have it. I myself am still a child, but I know that school is good for you and that you're once teren respectful of others.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

I feel that National Service(NS) should not be mandatory for all male singaporeans for some reasons. Although NS help males to have discipline but Chew once said that is passion that helps,not discipline so if(i said IF,not really gonna happen) singapore is going to have a war,it will most probably be the passion of the soldiers for singapore to make them fight for singapore and not because they have the discipline through NS to make them fight for sinagapore. Also,not long ago,there is this article on a NS man letting his maid carry his bag for him.Why will something like this happen when NS helps man to have discipline? It is because the NS man does not have passion in National Service thus something like that happen.

Also,another reason is that for many years,people have the misconception that man has better physical standard and is stronger than woman thus NS is mandatory for man only but what if is the other way round? For example,if the government has NS mandatory for females as well,perhaps they can do better than males?

In conclusion,i feel that NS should not be mandatory for only male singaporean.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
ryen(1) Disputed
1 point

NS should be mandatory for male singaporeans. It is very difficult to instil passion in any singaporean on the street. If you go up to them and ask them if they are willing to die for their country during a war, I do not think they would readily say 'yes!!' and swell up with pride.

About the maid issue, as weilin said, the NS man may be suffering from back pain. Even if he has passion, he would not grin and bear with the pain. Would you?

Many people (at least my primary school teacher does) describes singapore as a "poison shrimp". When a shark (a bigger country) attacks us, our might (poison) would weaken them so much that neighbouring countries, such as malaysia, would be able to crush that country. This proves how advanced the SAF is technologically and militarily.

Passion only exists in people like Darren and Kishore(2e3 classmates). their dream or goal is to be a pilot for the SAF or commercial pilots. They often talk about how cool and advanced the F5 is. These are the people that love the army.

For the others, NS is needed to instil discipline in them to defend our country. Thus, NS should be mandatory for male singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

About the "poison shrimp", how can Singapore weaken the bigger country? Will Malaysia help Singapore? What if Malaysia IS the one that attacking Singapore? Who will be left to protect Singapore, other than Singaporeans that are capable of weakening it only?

Maybe Darren and Kishore have passion, they are the ones that are likely to fight for Singapore. But lets say Singapore is losing and both of them are in the brink of death, will they STILL charge and try protect Singapore? I think there's a little chance of them doing so.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
adriankhoo(5) Disputed
2 points

NS only instills discipline in male singaporean but like the examples i given to junhao(read already?) ,most of it is the passion that keeps them going,not discipline.

For example in your poison shrimp and shark thing,if the poison shrimp does not have passion in its life(which means the people does not have passion for singapore),would it even bother to defend itself or should i say release the poison to weaken its enemies? No! It would just let it be eaten by the sharks.

Now coming to the maid issue,let's use yourself as a example.

Imagine you are like in your CCA,doing some building using the sticks(you know? the long long wood or branch thing),if you have passion in your CCA,have passion in finishing it,would you like give up halfway through despite all the pains you have and given while building it? No also.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
junhao9722(2) Disputed
1 point

Given your point of view, before you have passion you must have self-discipline in order to strive for something you want. Self-discipline does not only mean that you must behave yourself or mind your P's and Q's. It also means one must have the ability to be more responsible. With reference to your example of the NS man, that is only a minority. This means that a certain part of Singapore's population needs to have more discipline in order to have passion for something, so why not attend National Service and build up their maturity level( having discipline).

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
adriankhoo(5) Disputed
3 points

Continue from your first sentence,passion itself contains self discipline which means the abilty to strive for what you want without being distracted(that's what i think) thus when people have passion in them,discipline is 'automatically' instilled in them so there is no need for NS.

Now continue from your last sentence.When the males attend NS,after they come out from it,would they have passion even though they have discipline? I don't think so and discipline would slowly fade away without passion thus it's still passion for something that is more important rather than discipline.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

I think that national service should not be mandatory as it deprives young Singaporeans of 2 years of education, making them lag behind as compared to those who did not go through national service. Having a slower start may affect their future as nowadays, the world is developing so rapidly and the qualifications of certain jobs are getting tougher and tougher to achieve. Furthermore, national service is said to train young Singaporeans' on discipline,respect and other qualities but i feel that these qualities can be learnt in different ways. Also,the idea that military service is needed now in case of an emergency is questionable as what would be considered as an emergency? War? Personally, i feel that no country would have the nerve to attack Singapore as it has already developed a good relationship with many different countries that would help us in times of need. Also, since Singapore harbors many powerful foreign companies and is also a powerful economical giant, i think that other countries would rather be on our side than go against us. Adding on, with national service, the Government is far more prone to engaging militarily. When the forces are strong and plentiful, you are far more likely to go to war. What you end up with is a country like Israel who spends blood like its water (they too have a National Service regime). In conclusion, i feel that national service should not be mandatory but in fact, be left to be a thing of the past, as with Singapore's current status and its location, i doubt that Singapore would ever face an emergency. Consider this, many Singaporeans have wasted two years of their lives being tortured and training for war or emergencies but have an emergency emerged in the past few decades? No (except for virus pandemics that cannot be helped). In fact, being a Singaporean, i feel that Singaporeans' natural behavior when faced with an emergency is to flee or migrate to another country instead of battling in the front lines and Singapore would be left defenseless. To round this up, i feel that national service should be optional.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

All male Singaporeans have to enlist for National Service (NS) for 2 years once they registered their National Registration Identity Card (NRIC) at the age of 15, and they have to stay in Singapore for another 13 years for mandatory reservist training. I find it unjust as foreigners does not have the obligation and they can leave the country anytime they want to. Further more, even when a male Singaporean drops his PR at a young age, he would have to come back for NS when he reached the age of 18 even if he lives half of his live overboard! In such cases, if the Singaporean refuse to serve NS, he will forever be a fugitive from Singapore and if he ever step foot in Singapore he will be sentence to jail. Although Singapore promotes equality between man and woman, only males have to serve NS, this shows that the government is BIASED towards woman. If serving NS is compulsory for males, what about the females?

2 years of military service is a long time, in this period, a lot of family bonding time is missed and many things could be done, such as working and furthering one's study. People may say that it is during this time that the males matured and learn a sense of responsibility, overall becomes a better person. But what is learned, when they are FORCED to do something that are not of their own accord? When asked about their experience in NS, my brother and cousins who have finished serving military service mostly replied "boring" and "waste of time". This shows that not ALL males benefit from serving NS and in fact are wasting their precious time. This is why I think that NS should NOT be mandatory for all males Singaporeans.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

I do not think that National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Firstly, I believe Singaporeans should be allowed more freedom, being tied to the many different campaigns and fines. Male Singaporeans should have the option to attend NS, according to their passion or love for the country. Furthermore, forcing them to join NS only adds to Singapore's reputation of being a nanny state, which was formed by the numerous government regulations and restrictions on its citizen's lives. Besides, NS may not necessarily improve a male's sense of responsibilty and discipline, as we can see from the many recent scandals involving NS men, like the case where a father carries a NS guy's backpack, or even cases of violence , as seen from here : http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/caught_in_the_act/678740/getting_soft_first_it_was_maid_now_dad_carries.html and here : http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/ sgseen/caught_in_the_act/674658/nsman_rages_kicks_backpack_and_attacks_gf.html . Not to mention, these scandals also damages Singapore's image.

Secondly, the 2 years spent in NS can be used for studying, resulting in a stronger economic force in Singapore. But what is worse, is that Singaporeans are also forced to remain in the country for 13 long years thereafter for mandatory reservist trainings, and refusal to serve full time or remain in the country until this training is complete can result in jail for several years, while foreigners are able to enter and leave Singapore as and when they like , without needing to fulfill any of these obligations, and work full time without serving NS! This may also be a reason why Singaporeans have so little love for their country and would not attend NS if they had the choice too.

Last but not least, "Under the Enlistment Act, all male Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents (PRs) are liable to register for National Service (NS) upon reaching 16 1/2 years old. They are required to serve 2 years of full-time NS at 18 years old, followed by 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service per year till the age of 50 years (for officers) or 40 years (for other ranks)." , and this may prevent foreigners from becoming a Permanent Resident, which is something we do not want, as Singapore suffers from a low birth rate.

Maybe, Singapore government should give Singaporeans a little more freedom and be less of a nanny state, which may do all of us good, and the results may turn out surprisingly positive.

For more reasons of why NS is unfair and should not be mandatory, please visit http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2011/03/singapores-national-service-injustice.html

(source)

-Crystal of 2e5

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

In my opinion, National Service should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans

Citizens should be willing to enlist into the army and willingly going into full-time instead of a part-time service men. The 2 years of service does not really help in times of emergency as there is a limited amount of experience compared to those serving full time. For example, in US, most of the soldiers are very brave and they are willing to lay down their lives for their country and their allies any time, for example in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Since Singapore is a small country, it is critical to build a strong fleet of full-time service men and harness the strength of neighboring countries to build a strong defense against attacks.

Despite tough trainings, there are some service men that are still pampered. For example, as reported recently in the Yahoo and Straits Times news respectively, two NS men were seen having their father and maid to carry their NS backpack. Their behavior and actions does not display the morals that they have learnt during the service.

Thank You

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_685601.html

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/blogs/singaporescene/nsman-maid-carrying-backpack-sparks-debate-20110328-044525-041.html

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
2 points

Conscription in Singapore, called National Service , requires all male Singaporean citizens and non-first-generation permanent residents who have reached the age of 18 to enroll for national service. They serve a 22- or 24-month period as Full Time National Servicemen , either in the Singapore Armed Forces , Singapore Police Force , or the Singapore Civil Defence Force .

Singapore is among the list of countries with a national service exceeding 18 months and a reservist obligation lasting up to age 40 for enlisted men and 50 for officers. Until June 2004 it had a mandatory national service periods of 30 months.

National Service should not be mandatory.

Mandatory means required by law or rules. A synonym for it is obligatory.

Male Singaporeans have to serve for up to 30 months or 2 and a half years in the army.

While male Singaporeans are serving in National service, female Singaporeans can continue to complete their studies, or start up a business. This is unfair as two years of their life are spent on National Service.

During that period of time, they could start their career or continue their studies.

At the same time, Singapore is a small country and they have to force people to join the army so that they could protect the country during a war.

However, lots of male Singaporeans are reluctant to join the national service but they are force to.

If they do not want to serve the National Service, would they want to risk their life for the country during a war?

Male Singaporeans are forced to serve National service but not females. It is because it is commonly known to everyone that male are physically stronger than females. However, this is only a myth. Many males can be physically weaker than females. As it is not mandatory for Singaporean females to join the national service but Singaporean males have to, many Singaporean female fell inferior to Singaporean males based on physical strength.

Lastly, because National Service is mandatory for all Singaporeans, they lack freedom. They do not have the freedom to choose what they want to do during the two years.

The recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world.

—Preamble to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948

Human rights are commonly understood as "inalienable fundamental rights to which a person is inherently entitled simply because she or he is a human being.

As a human, he should be able to choose what he wants to do, not being forced by anybody, including the government.

In a nutshell, male Singaporeans have to spend two and a half years to serve in the army but female Singaporeans do not have to. The two years of a male Singaporean 's time could be spent on other activities. Male Singaporeans who are reluctant to serve the army would not risk their life for the country. Females might feel inferior to male Singaporeans based on physical strength. Male Singaporeans are also humans, so they should have their own rights and get to choose what they want to do.

Thus National Service should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory

No, anything else is not a free society.-----------------------------

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

Interesting students you have here Ms Samantha. I applaud all their efforts in this debate. I do know this debate is for a very specific group of people, but I just have to post this, as I can't help wondering, why has no one touched on the topic of NS being mandatory for all MALE Singaporeans ? I've seen the arguments of those that state that they think that NS should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans, due to reasons such as defense, bonding among youths, lowering of crime rates and turning boys into mature men, and teaching them discipline. I can't help but wonder, wouldn't it be true for the females as well ?

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

I personally think that national service would be better if its not mandatory. Lets think about this carefully, sure national service brings the best for boys becoming man but WHY MUST IT BE MANDATORY?

Lets give an real example: There is my friend that just graduated and get an offer from HBO as a movie director, but the sad thing is he's 18 so he need to do military service. Think if you are in the same position as his, he need to reject his one in a life time offer just for national service? I really feel bad...

Another: A singaporean that was born in indonesia and live there his entire life got a letter saying he need to go back to singapore to serve national service. He got an IC because the singapore is forcing him to make without knowing that its bringing him into a pit hole. He also got a really weak body, and never ever took any socio-economic benefits from singapore.

Would they serve Singapore well? But they know all the weapons and dangerous things in singapore... Would they use it to help or attack singapore? Because for sure they will hold a grudge at singapore

Sure national service give a few positive effects, but please think about this new generation where everything is getting harder and more competitive, if this goes on, i think singapore will lose their strength in the global world

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

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Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

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Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

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Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

People its two years. Two years away from your family. By the time you reach home, you will be estranged with your family. You would have mad friends with other people. You would treat them as if they are your family. And you would continue to spend time with them. What about your family???????????

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

National service should be mandatory..because enemies who want to invade us will try not to destroy too much of our infrastructure in order to make good use of them. Hence, soldiers are actually still useful in this nuclear technology era.

However, woman and foreigners must suffer some detriment to compensate for the 2 years male suffer for the good of this country. Imagine spending/wasting 2 years of your life in the army while your female friends are already seniors in their respective field.

It is actually quite disgusting considering they are not there because of hard work, but the inherent career/educational advantage they have over guys.

Then again Singapore government pamper our girls too much. Woman's charter, don't need to serve NS, etc. Hence Singaporean male can only, like what they are taught in NS, suck thumb.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
0 points

I think that NS should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Although it plays a role in the transformation of a boy to a man, in my opinion, it does not require having gone through army training to become a 'true man'. Boys mature over time, just as girls do.

Furthermore, not all boys mature while National Service. There are some who remain immature and behave like a kid. An example is the recent 'hot topic' - a photograph of an NS man having his army backpack being carried by a maid. This is an apparent sign of immaturity - Maids carry bags for young kids, mainly kids going to kindergarten or primary school. From secondary school onwards, they naturally become more independent, and do not require a maid to carry their bag for them anymore. But this is a case of a grown up man currently serving NS, and I don't see how he is any different from a primary school kid! Are NS men like this really capable of defending our country from a war?

Another issue I would like to bring up is the intense training NS men have to go through. Several men have DIED while serving NS, due to heat stroke and even while doing chin-ups during training. This proves that NS training is too strenous for some to the point of death. This especially applies to those physically unfit or those with medical conditions.

Now you may ask, what if Singapore is attacked by another country (which has a low chance of occurring I would say, with its tight security and good relations with other countries)?

With the advancement of technology, countries can easily launch a bomb attack on Singapore. In a situation like this, there is no way to predict or react in time, much less retaliate. A nuclear bomb would destroy the entire Singapore within seconds. How would the Singapore Army Force (SAF) be of any use when something like this happens?

Even if there is a war whereby the attacking country sends its army troops to fight Singapore, how many men would actually step out to defend our country? I say, very few would. After all, they would be fighting a losing battle, with Singapore's limited population size as compared to other countries. When a war strikes, the first instincts of many Singaporeans would be to flee rather than stay to fight for their own country.

Lastly, NSmen lose out to women of the same qualifications who have had two years more of working experience than them. Although I will not be serving NS in the future (unless there is a change in policy), but when putting myself in their shoes, I feel that the two years of headstart for women in the workforce is pretty unfair towards the guys.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
YingTong(1) Disputed
2 points

I disagree with your view that National Service should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Firstly, the main purpose or reason on why the government introduce National Service in Singapore and made it mandatory for all male Singaporeans is to have a strong and substantial military force to defend Singapore when there is a crisis; and not to 'transform' a boy into a man like what you had mention in your debate.

Secondly, you mentioned that several men died while serving National Service due to the intense training. I do not agree with you. Many of this incidents are due to their own carelessness. You said that National Service training is too strenuous for some to the point of death? I do not think so. If the training is too intense to the point of death, wouldn't the Ministry of Defense do something about it already. For your information, before young men enlist into National Service, they are required to state their medical conditions, those in serious cases are exempted from National Service. Those who are physically weaker than the others have a lesser intense training compared to the better ones.

Thirdly, why would any country launch a bomb attack on Singapore before talking on terms with the Singapore government in the first place? The Singapore government is clever enough to try to negotiate with the other party before they resort to bombing Singapore. Even if Singapore is really threaten by a bomb, do you really think that the Singapore Army Force is that useless to do nothing but wait for the bomb to land on Singapore. Do not look down on Singapore's military forces. If in reality, the SAF is really that useless like what you had describe as, why did the Singapore bothered to have military forces in the first place? Your point is unrealistic. In response to your following point, this is exactly why National Service should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans! To ensure that there would be more than enough men waiting to serve for the country when there a crisis. I do not agree with what you state that most Singaporeans would flee rather than staying to fight for the country. This is just your own opinion, it is not a fact.

Lastly, from your last point, I would like to ask you if you think that is education still more important than your own country, when it comes to your country's safety and future? I do not think so.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
Eddylzj(2) Disputed
1 point

Well I don't think this is the case.Boys underwent National Service will be both mentally and physically trained.Even though boys mature over time,but will their resilience and their "never say die" spirit get" mature" over time?Therefore,through this training,there will not only be training their physical fitness.They will also be challenged for their willpower and their teamwork.Since you said that NS men are immature and behave like a kid,there should be more reasons why National Service is mandatory to all male singaporeans.Even though Singapore is a safe country,with all the tight security and good relations with other countries,there still might be a possibility that Singapore may be attacked.Therefore,we must be prepared to deal all kinds of situations.I do not agree "NSmen lose out to women of the same qualifications who have had two years more of working experience than them."Nowadays,employments emphasised more on qualifications rather than experience.Thus,even though women have more working experience,but if males' "learning experience" is more than the women,males still stand a higher chance to be employed.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
JackTay(3) Disputed
1 point

Well, i do not agree with you.

Firstly, you talked about the 'hot topic' which is a picture of a maid carrying an NS man's backpack and you said that he is immature. I disagree as you might not know if the guy is injured or sick? The person who took the photo might misunderstand the NS man and when he uploaded the picture on stomp, more and more people will misunderstand the NS man.

Secondly, you said that some NS men died while they are serving NS due to heat stroke and some during their fitness

activities. Though this might be true, but do most of the opposite gender (in this case female) can take these strenuous trainings? At the same time, before a guy serve NS, he have to go for a medical check-up and if he is unfit for those physical activities, he will be sent to other departments and serve his NS there.

Thirdly, if there is a sudden war between Singapore and other countries, the SAF should be well prepared to defend and fight for our country. If there isn't anybody to fight for our country, the percentage of winning would be absolute zero but if there were people from the NS and SAF to fight for Singapore, there would still at least be some percentage of wining am I right?

Lastly,it is not unfair for guys to 'waste' 2 years just to serve NS as if they were not the ones to be ready to defend for our country, who will?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
CWeilin(2) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with the points you had said about NS should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans.

Firstly, it is true that boys mature over time, just as girls do and its not NS who had mature the boys. My question is, did NS just want to mature the boys through the NS? Or did NS want other purposes that are more useful ?

Secondly, I understand that there is a hot topic of a photograph of an NS man having his army backpack being carried by a maid. Normal inference will be that he is weak, immature, and others. But what if people think. Think clearer, the NS man might be having a injury on his back or any part of his body that required a maid to help him.

Thirdly, it might be true that there are several men died during their service. It might be true that it is due to heat stroke or any other reasons, but there is also a possibility that they are sick at the first place. Some men might even felt proud dying for the nation. You never know what they are thinking.

Lastly, its the fact that Singapore is small. An atomic bomb can easily kill all of us and you will be thinking of, why serve the nation so hard ? But, when Singapore does not have any army, guard or anything, its even easier for other countries to invade Singapore. There is a saying ' Prevention is better then cure'.

Not forgetting, Males definitely lose out to females as they hard a earlier start of society of two years. However, in Singapore, its the experience that counts. It does not mean that males are less capable then females due to the NS. In fact, some are even stronger.

To conclude, NS should be mandatory for all male Singaporeans

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
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I totally agree with Tammy , because i don't think many would seriously step out to defend their country in times of war as many Singaporeans do not have patriotism and a sense of pride of their own country . Many Singaporeans would want to migrate to other countries to start their lives there. In this case will Singaporeans really stand together to defend their country? i don't think so , i think many of them would migrate to other countries in times of war leaving a few men to fight. Singaporeans do not also have strong endurance to pain and strenuous exercises as we have lived life luxuriously, we are pampered and we have not faced such intense training before.

Should NS be only mandatory for Singaporeans? i don't think so! I think it should also be mandatory for all permanent citizens also. They too stay , live , study and work the same with Singaporeans.Thus they too should at least contribute to the country by engaging in NS. Many permanent male citizens try to avoid or escape NS by not applying for Singaporean citizenship.The permanent citizens leave once studying and back to their own countries to study further. That is very unfair for us Singaporeans. i think if NS should be mandatory it should also be mandatory to permanent citizens too.

Supporting Evidence: 0-year-old full-time NS men dies while doing chin-ups in camp (www.channelnewsasia.com)
Side: No, it should not be mandatory
1 point

I definetely agree with you, Tammy and Vino (Seriously, great minds think alike). Anyway, i think that singaporeans are so used to the luxurious life that we would not stay back to defend the country even in times of war. As a fellow singaporean, i feel that my life is more important than my country as i am seriously considering to migrate later on in life. As Tammy said, with the advancements in technology, manpower would never be able to protect a "little red dot" from the revolutionaries of science and technology. With a single impact from any advanced technologies(E.g Nuclear bombs etc.) the entire singapore would be whiped out in the blink of an eye no matter how disciplined, determined, and whatever qualities the military of singapore have. I feel that instead of wasting their time training humans, the military should be inventing more devices that is capable of protecting singapore from technology. In conclusion, my stand is that only technology can beat technology, not manpower.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
tiekun(2) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with your view that National Service should not be mandatory for all male Singaporeans. Firstly, the main purpose for having NS is to train our young male Singaporeans, to make them strong and have strong will power to overcome their obstacles in the future. Also just in case of the attack of terrorist, SAF could save the day. When guys get trained, they will be fit and when they witnesses any crime taking place near them, they can help out. About the maturity part, boys can be matured through many ways not only through NS.

Here is my points, thanks

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
-10 points
haochenghu(1) Disputed
2 points

Hady, I remember Ms Sam said to use proper English to write your debate. She also said it should be at least 150 words long, which your debate length clearly doesn’t meet. Also as a side question, you have a girlfriend? I highly recommend you comment on a argument unless you want Ms Sam to be mad on Tuesday.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
1 point

Hey, that is not me. I don't know who is that but i would never ever put a jewish symbol as my profile picture. And by the way little mouse, my profile name is HadyAbdul.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
*Hilman(17) Disputed
2 points

So,What you are trying to say Hady is that love,games and basically fun,are much more important than discipline,loyalty to country and even basic country-respect?I don't really understand your excuses or maybe general excuses made by people.National Service is usually seen as a torturing,tormenting house of hell but how sure can these critics be?Has anyone ever died because of National Service?No.National Service can be seen as a path to maturity and a next step to being loyal to the country.So if Singapore is under attack by,lets say a terrorist group,you,Hady,will just sit on your chair at home,busy playing games while looking at dating websites?Is that it?In addition,I would like to add that by the time you are permittable for National Service,you will not really care about your studies that much for the 2 years.Isn't that a blessing in disguise?Also,I am not trying to make a new topic like whether National Service is more important than education though.I seem to despise your attitude over National Service and furthermore,to contribute that National Service is no doubt mandatory for ALL male Singaporeans.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
1 point

Dude, don't use names in debate, or Ms Sam is going to get pissed.

Studies may be important, but having all brains and no brawn is not going to help you achieve greater heights. Work attitude and discipline is something that we need to cultivate, and for those who cannot even pass up homework on time I see an urgent need for NS.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
1 point

Look, the statement made above is NOT done by me. It is probably some joker who has nothing better to do than to impersonate me. If you want to argue with me, refer to the argument above.

Profile name: HadyAbdul

Profile picture: Nuclear bomb exploding

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
Granz(16) Disputed
2 points

I support that National Service should NOT be mandatory for all male Singaporeans, but when you say that you prefer to play computer games and all that, I highly recommends that you better change your mindset for the better. If NS is abolished, male Singaporeans should do something that benefits himself or the country and not playing computer games!

PS: Are you indirectly implying that English lessons is bad?

PPS: You have a girlfriend?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
HadyAbdul(5) Disputed
1 point

That statement was NOT done by ME! My profile name is HadyAbdul.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
chiayee(2) Disputed
2 points

You think that it should not not mandatory just because you don't like it? I think it is time for you to change your midset. You'd rather play computer games and not protect the country? Well, let's take it in another view. What if one day your girlfriend gets taken away by someone else who is bigger and brawnier? Are you going to just leave your girlfriend there and play computer games? I doubt so. You will definitely have to train harder and become better to get her back, don't you?

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.
adriankhoo(5) Disputed
2 points

I do not agree with what you said (no offence) but for example when your girlfriend gets taken away by someone who is bigger and brawnier and you are a smaller sized. Logically there's no way you can get her back alone no matter how hard you train but if you have a team perhaps you can succede thus is not the amount of time you used to get better and stronger but is your teamwork in situation like this.

Side: No, it should not be mandatory
Hong Xuan(1) Disputed
1 point

Life is not about playing computer games only. And please elaborate on what you mean by national service 'damn annoying one'? Also, taking away relationships with your girlfriend? What do you mean by that? Do you even have a girlfriend? According to Ms Sam we should not be using singlish in this website. Your paragraph should also be 150 words long. This is a public website and you are making this kind of comments. Please watch your behavior. Thank you very much.

Side: Yes, it should be mandatory.