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It has.. Is that bad?? It was Trump, after all, who brought politics into it when he LIED about Kaepernik when he said that he was protesting the flag and the anthem..
If you paid attention, which neither you or Trump do, you'd KNOW that Kaepernik was protesting police brutality..
But, even if you have NO CLUE what he's protesting about, does that matter??? Does he have to run it by you first??? What if he was protesting abortion? Would his taking a knee be cool with you then?? I'm also curious about the larger context - what venue SHOULD be Constitutionally free?
Okay Con. I'm game. A bunch of white players come out giving white power signs and wearing Klan hoods as the anthem plays. Does the NFL have to put up with it? Do they need to run it by you first?
No one is denying he has rights why do it at a ball game ? Working class people of all shapes , politics and religions or lack of come to watch some football and enjoy a night out they leave their religion , politics and beliefs at home but this egotistical fucker like a big drama queen is somehow " making a stand " , why not do it politically or with petitions ? Maybe go out and challenge what he objects to as in the real target of his rage , but no that takes guts doesn't it ?
I use this website because it's the LOUDEST platform I've got.. Yes, I COULD walk around in front of police headquarters with a sign.. But nobody would notice, and it's raining out. I have a BIGGER platform right here, and I can stay warm.
You're no different.. You USE this website to your ends.. You COULD just carry a sign.. But, like all of us, you want a louder voice.. This platform gives it to you, and you TAKE it..
The NFL gives Kaepernik a platform, and he TAKES it. You're no different.. He just has a BIGGER platform.
I don't use this website to "my ends " nor as a "platform " I come on here to engage in debate with men and women from around the globe who wish to do likewise .
The N F L does not give him a platform he chooses to use it as such , he's there to play football not express his views on matters unrelated to what he's paid for ; and yes I am totally different politics has no place in sports
I realize I'm wasting my time trying to explain the obvious to Liberals such as yourself.
Prolife people would have the common sense to take a knee at the death camps (clinics) rather than denegrating our patriots dying for our freedoms.
If Kaepernik was protesting police brutality, he would take his rich fool self down to the police stations and take a knee there.
If he wants to take a knee with a large audience, he could be in the front row at the academy awards, and take a knee when they announce the winners.
What? You say taking a knee when they announced the Academy award winners would be insulting towards those who worked hard to win those awards? Imagine if lke our troops, they died to win those awards? Are you starting to get it?
Liberals are showing their true colors and disdain for this great nation when taking a knee during the national anthem.
Imagine if like our troops, they died to win those awards? Are you starting to get it?
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What you neglect to mention is that our fallen warriors also died to protect Kaeperniks RIGHT to protest - in the way HE chooses, and NOT the way you choose.
It's a GOOD thing that, here in America, we DON'T need your approval before we enjoy our rights..
You know what I just said was true yet you lack the decency to admit it. You keep showing why you are on my ban list.
What fool does not know we all have the freedom to act like idiots. The even bigger idiots are the ones who refuse to speak out and hold them to account for their disrespect.
So players that are klansmen wearing white hoods should just be fair game on an entertainment forum that kids watch? Good to know. Do they burn the cross at midfield?
The fact you are refusing to get is that even if you don't support or agree with it, he HAS the RIGHT to do it. That's what he's using, that's what our soldiers have fought and died for, his right to protest peacefully as he see's fit, where he see's fit. As it is he's garnered more attention to his cause then if he'd done it anywhere else which was the point. That some people are trying to warp his reasons and say he's dishonoring fallen soldiers and their families as well as America is both disingenuous and deceitful. He will have to deal with the repercussions of his actions but, and I'll say this in all caps, HE HAS THE RIGHT BECAUSE OUR COUNTRYMEN/WOMEN FOUGHT AND DIED, FOR HIM TO HAVE THAT RIGHT. That isn't even close to hating America, that's exercising his rights as an American to protest an issue that concerns him.
The fact you are refusing to get is that even if you don't support or agree with it, he HAS the RIGHT to do it.
1)True. And his employer also has the right to let him go for making political statements on their property, on their time, as a representative of their brand. If a white guy came out with a KKK hood on, they can fire him. The speech is protected. The employment is not.
2)We also have the right to not watch the NFL because of it, and millions of us have boycotted it despite having watched it all of our lives. Their audience tends to be conservative. Insulting your audience is bad business strategy, and until it stops, we won't watch.
3)He, Colin Kaepernick, the one who started the kneel is no longer in the league because no team picked him up. Probably because he was killing their bottom line.
Oh good. As a private contractor they'd have even less rights. The NFL then wouldn't be liable for payroll taxes or benefits for them, nor are they, the players, protected by workers' compensation or most labor laws.
As it is he's garnered more attention to his cause then if he'd done it anywhere else which was the point.
He lost his job, can't afford his life now, divided the country, and pissed off the NFL's fanbase. It's not made me focus on the "cause". It's simply made me wonder if most African Americans simply hate America, U.S. soldiers, and the cops. That's a really bad way to reach for empathy fromthe right.
It's true.. When you lead from the FRONT, you'll take a few arrows
Or...he started dating a Muslim right before the kneel, who then planted this idea in to his mind.
BLM? Muslim cofounder. Woman's March? Organized by Linda Sarsour, the pro Sharia jihadist. Hillary's right hand woman Huma Abedin? A Muslim. Colin Kaepernick and the kneel? Right after dating a Muslim. Isn't that a daisy? Ever heard of stealth jihad Con? Maybe you should.
How is it, that you sooo misunderstand this great country we live in???
The problem is... that I understand how the Islamic caliphate, stealth jihad, taqiyya, tawriya, kitman and muruna work. Do you not find it odd that Muslims voted overwhelmingly for Bush, 9/11 happened, the caliphate was declared, now Muslims all, like magic, vote overwhelmingly for the left in every Western country at one time? Why do you think that is Con? They just all magically changed political affiliations worldwide by coincidence? Or is it more likely that they all believe this is the final caliphate, which would mean they begin the conquest of our countries per politics... divide and conquer Con. Ever heard of it? Of course you have.
Nerry a soul knew anything about Islam pre 9/11. Magically poof! The U.S. gets a "Muslim sympathizer" as President, who was raised in Indonesia, a Muslim country, the one (Keith Ellison) being touted to lead the DNC is a Muslim, the former head of the CIA was a Muslim, the new Mayor of London (Sadiq Kahn) is a Muslim, Hillary's right hand woman (Huma Abedin)? A Muslim with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood... Boy Muslims everywhere all of the sudden. Surely they're only up to good and love liberal America...surely...or we could read the Quran, the hadith and the Sunna, and know exactly what's going on...
It's just a coincidence Con... it has to be... so stick your head back in the sand and wait for the conquest to end...wait for your kids and grandkids to live in a crescent moon dystopia...
Maybe you should look at a map and face the cold, hard truth con. You and me? We won't exist much longer. Meaning? Christians and Atheists. Our day in the sun will soon be over. Face it.
Let me start out saying how much an idiot you are for not GETTING IT!
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ACT LIKE IDIOTS! YES MEN FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOMS TO ACT LKE IDIOTS. SO WHAT!!!!!!!!
THAT'S NOT THE POINT! The point is that people who conflate the national anthem with protesting other issues, makes them an American hating fool. It makes you a fool to support their stupidity.
They could use many large audiences to spotlight their protests, but they would rather spit in the eye of America in doing so. They are America hating Liberals who many told us they would leave the country if Trump were elected. Sadly, these rich fools are still here. What a shock.
They deserve to be fired for their anti American outbursts. No one is sayng they should be put in jail. The teams that allow it should be boycotted. That is the freedom you seem to miss.
Let me start out by saying, you don't get to complain about people attacking you when you go around calling others an idiot and then not get called out for hypocrisy.
And YES that is the point. Again. EVEN if you don't agree with it, he has the right and that is the ONLY point. He will have to deal with the repercussions of his actions but going around and calling him Un-American and "hating America" for exercising his American rights is ridiculous. You're warping his statement to fit your own agenda in your anger and hatred for him using his rights.
Again, let me repeat my remark because our troops fought and died for my freedom to do so. You are an idiot not to get what we are talking about.
If you read my remarks, you would know i DO AGREE with his freedom to be an idiot!
I have the freedom to call him unAmerican... BECUASE HE IS ACTING IT! The NFL teams have the freedom to fire them for being disrespectful to those who died for their freedoms.
Why do you defend him, but attack my free speech?
Let me repeat the freedoms you keep forgetting. OUR FREEDOMS TO CALL HIM UNAMERICAN AND "HATING AMERICA".
And it's my freedom to call you out and tell you that you are warping his reasons to fit your agenda. You don't like what he's doing so you're making about what you want it to be about instead of the actual issue he's trying to shine a light to.
He's not acting UnAmerican when he's exercising his RIGHTS to protest peacefully. You want to falsely accuse him of something and then complain and say I'm attacking your free speech? You're just a victim all around, aren't you.
He can be completely wrong in the manner he protests the issues he cares about, but if I protest his misplaced protest as being wrong, I'm te bad guy? I am wrong for protesting him but you are right to protest how I protest?
You can dislike what he does all you want, but you will be called out when you falsely accuse him of being UnAmerican just because he's not protesting in a way you approve. He is American, he is exercising his American rights, agree or disagree with his methods but he is not wrong in how he's doing it as it IS peaceful to take a knee. This is not a difficult concept for you to understand. But you are right in one thing, this is going no where.
What kind of moron would protest something in a way that sends no message other than hating what America stands for?
If he took a knee at a police station, we would all GET IT! We would not call him an American hating idiot. He would actually be bringing more attention to the actual reasons for his protest.
What does he accomplish by his actions. He does what most of us have the intellect to understand, which is showing his true feelings for America. He is not taking a knee at the Academy awards with that huge audience. No, he is choosing to protest when it sends a message of disrepect for America.
Well that took long enough, it usually happens when you either figure out the person is right or you just can't fight against the logic with your emotion.
What kind of moron would protest something in a way that sends no message other than hating what America stands for?
What kind of moron completely misses the point to his message, which he himself has said it was, in favor of their own message which is completely wrong, then gets upset over it? Don't answer, you don't have to, just go back to your allcaps ignore.
ROFLOL, so when a white supremace marches down the street using his free speech to hate Balcks, you will create post after post telling Liberals how wrong they are for not understanding their free speech? LOL, HYPOCRITE AS ALWAYS!
Nah, you do not create arguments attacking Liberals for speaking out against White Supremace free speech.
Imagine if lke our troops, they died to win those awards? Are you starting to get it?
How is it even possible that you have learned nothing from 2000 years of history and are still speaking like a Roman?
You want people to feel emotion for soldiers being paid by the government to kill foreigners, while at the same time you despise those soldiers who defend their homes against American invaders. You are a thoroughly irrational and nasty piece of work.
WOW! You just described who Liberals truly are. You hate America as we all knew. You see terrorists as simple people fighting to defend their homes while Americans are the invaders.
What a total idiot! When the terrorists come a knocking, and blindly kill your family, I wonder what you will then be saying when American troops are the ones dying and fighting back.
I will now go back to ignoring your rantings as usual.
while at the same time you despise those soldiers who defend their homes against American invaders
And amazingly, we never see modern "mighty America" taking over land from foreign countries and claiming it for themselves. You said America wasn't anything close to "the greatest". Now you act like they're some kind of invincible military machine. The point? My underwear is smarter than you are.
Prolife people would have the common sense to take a knee at the death camps (clinics) rather than denegrating our patriots dying for our freedoms.
If Kaepernik were protesting police brutality, he would take his rich fool self down to the police stations and take a knee there.
If he wants to take a knee with a large audience, he could be in the front row at the academy awards, and take a knee when they announce the winners.
What? Liberals would say taking a knee when announcing the Academy award winners would be insulting towards those who worked hard to win those awards? Imagine if like our troops, they died to win those awards? Can Liberals ever grasp the obvious?
Liberals are showing their true colors and disdain for this great nation when taking a knee during the national anthem.