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Debate Score:35
Arguments:12
Total Votes:41
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Are blacks today victims or victors?


                       

Victors

Side Score: 31
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Victims

Side Score: 4
7 points

This aware and independent young man has the intelligence to extract himself from the quagmire of the ''oh poor me syndrome'' and see that there is opportunity and a prosperous future for those who are willing to break the shackles of self destructive self pity.

The left wing loonies who stoke the embers of a shameful bygone era for political gain only further embitter the black youths of today and ensure that their mindset of embittered alienation continues from one generation to the next.

Between management positions and running my own business I have been interviewing and employing( and firing) people for over 40 years. I would have had no hesitation in offering this open minded and intelligent young man a post commensurate with his qualifications.

Employers look for attitudinal qualifications as well as, or along with, the necessary level of proficiency to fulfill a particular position.

Attitudinal qualifications include personal qualities such as;-

Honesty,

A willingness to learn,

Adaptability,

A team spirit,

Reliability,

Pleasant and friendly personality,

Ambition and so forth.

Many of these attributes cannot be taught as they were either developed and fostered by the parents or they were not.This guy will be a success, either as an employee or as a self employed entrepreneur.

I trust the sincere message he has given in the video will be seen by and heeded by many African Americans.

Whichever route he embarks on I wish him well.

This bright young graduate's positive and inspirational outlook contrasts starkly with the resentful self pitying filth as graphically illustrated by ex convict whose type will still be whinging and blustering in 1000 years from now.

Side: Victors
5 points

Spot on Antrim and the young man would be an asset to any company

Side: Victors
excon(18261) Disputed
0 points

Hello A:

And, you're the guy who LIED through his teeth when he said that I posted on THIS website, that I hate white people..

Of course, if I DID say that, it's archived on this site, and you COULD link us to it IF it existed. And it DOESN'T.. We KNOW that because you just can't seem to find the time to PROVE what you said..

There's only ONE conclusion one could come to about that..

excon

Side: Victims
Dermot(5736) Disputed
6 points

Well you actually did say you hate white people so Antrim is not in fact lying

Side: Victors
Antrim(1287) Disputed
5 points

Your deep hatred for white people has been well documented and observed by many on this site.

You're the master of the diversionary red Herring which you plant in the hope that no one will notice that you have slithered away from the issue on hand.

This young man sees things as they really are and feels motivated to speak from his heart in the hope that he may positively influence others to break away from the restrictive pattern and move on in a constructive and positive manner.

You, you dirty little low life, sanctimonious trouble maker will never be able to drag yourself from gutter.

Probably because that's where you were born and you find it comfortable.

Your sole reason for dragging your foul smelling body out of bed every morning is to snarl and yap about racism and the big bad white men.

Side: Victors
1 point

They're both. Individual results vary. But it's precisely because they're both that it's still legitimate for the social group to continue to advocate on behalf of those in their group who are still victims of one kind or another.

And heck, when we stick up for the Whites having a hard time getting jobs and getting ahead we're doing the same thing for the same reason.

Side: Victors
0 points

Hello bront:

Since we captured them and chained them to slave ships, they've been victims.. When I look at their neighborhoods, I SEE the result of their victim hood.. When YOU look at their neighborhoods, you shake your head and wonder HOW people can CHOOSE to live like that..

excon

Side: Victims
4 points

So why are there no results to Japanese Asians being called "Japs" and put into camps...

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ How isitthatAsianAmericansdontneedaffirmativeactiontomakeitin_life

Because no one coddled them and gave them an excuse to stay down.

Side: Victors
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

Yep SUPER STUPID it's all the White Man's fault and you claim you are not a Bongo ! LMMFAO whatever !

Side: Victors
-1 points

They were victims on the determined way to being victors a year ago. This year they have suffered a setback due to the (assisted) rise of white supremacy groups and those who believe racism is dead. I have no doubt that they will, once again, with the help of REAL Americans of ALL colors, battle back from this right wing nastiness that has set them back. (That is, IF we Real Americans survive the next few years.)

Side: Victims
3 points

This year they have suffered a setback

Newsflash. Black Lives Matter was started during Obama's reign, and started picking cops off during Obama's terms in office.

due to the (assisted) rise of white supremacy groups

The KKK doing their annual vile march with a permit isn't some "new rise in white supremacy". It's the pseudo Klan coming out like clowns to march once a year like they always do. All 300 of them...

Side: Victors
outlaw60(15368) Clarified
1 point

Crazy AL in just a few short months White Supremacy is on the rise but where were all the White Supremacist rally's during 2 terms of Obama ? Your steady diet of Propaganda from the Media Feed Trough show your mentality. Hillary got beat and the Blame Game will never stop with you Progressives !

Side: Victors