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CAMPUS CRAZIES ON ‘MILLION STUDENT MARCH’
Student demonstrations are set to engulf the U.S. today in the ‘Million Student March’, as activists from campuses around the country stage a day of protests against tuition fees and student debt, further inflamed by recent social justice protests at Yale and Missouri.
A statement from the activists reads: “We are people of all colors, genders, and sexual orientation, and we are united to fight for education as a human right.” Protesters are calling for tuition-free public college, cancellation of student debt, and a $15 minimum wage for college workers… plus a lot of other stuff about “straight white male patriarchy” and rape culture on campus.
Do the crazies just expect that the taxpayers need to bail them out ?
There's your socialism that the Democrat party has been steering us towards for decades. Keep electing these extremist Democrats, and you don't have a clue how bad America will get before it all collapses under it own debt bailing out all the irresponsible dead beats who refuse to live within their means.
COLLEGE IS NO RIGHT! You created your huge debt because you wanted to go to that expensive college when you could not afford it. You are an irresponsible person. Quit expecting responsibile people to bail out your mind numbing stupidity.
As someone who wanted to be a history teacher myself, I highly advise you not to go down that route. There are incredibly few jobs teaching history and they pay very little.
Not exactly an optimistic piece of advice for following your life goals or anything, but that's the state of our economy at the moment =/
College professor's have a small wage? Thing is though about teachers in a normal school get to claim unemployment in the summer (I know somebody who did it). But yes, our economy is on the verge of collapse but if it doesn't collapse than I would attempt to have a job as a history teacher, in college that is.
College professors at large universities make pretty good money, but there are a staggeringly small number of open positions for most Social Study fields at the moment, and sadly (believe me, I mean sadly for me as well) there is little one can do with a history degree other than teach.
I don't know how large my nearest university is... But it costs quite a bit to go their for college.
Well, in that case hope I'm lucky (Time to pick myself a four leaf clover XD). The main reason I choose history is because all of my life I've been a large history geek (especially when it comes to times when strategy was involved).
He said be responsible, but what he also said was if you can't afford college, fuck you don't go to college. How the fuck is someone supposed to be able to afford their college education before they have the college education to get the job to get the money?
That is actually the opposite of what he has said. I can see why you might think that based only on this debate, but the entire premise of his answers has to do with ignoring reality and standing on principles that are not borne out in reality.
He says the Republican party isn't made up of Conservatives, he tries to tell people what they think despite people tell him they are wrong, and then screams at them for lying, he has conjured up this war that is being waged against him and Christians in general here in the United States despite overwhelming evidence presented to him to the contrary, he declares any criticism of himself or Conservatives as an attempt to censor, he denies statistics regarding working individuals receiving welfare and continues to make claims that are constricted by statistics, etc.
I could go on for a very, very long time, but those are just from the past few days.
No it doesn't, go check out the costs involved. When I was in college the biggest cost was room and board, not tuition. Tuition at a community college is very reasonable and priced for those who can't afford a lot.
No it doesn't, go check out the costs involved. When I was in college the biggest cost was room and board, not tuition. Tuition at a community college is very reasonable and priced for those who can't afford a lot.
As someone who also started in community college for the sake of money, I am well aware. But the cost of community college per year is still around $3,000 for in state residents. For people at or below the poverty line, that still isn't feasible.
Apply for student loans, scholarships and grants. There are many resources out there, you only need avail yourself of them.
And those resources do not cover everyone. Scholarships and grants aren't available to everyone, and there aren't enough of them to cover everyone who has a theoretical need, while the loan system in this country is f--cked up and predatory (letting private companies make money off of student loan interest?!), as well as one of the main issues in question here.
The price of college is increasing along with the cost of living, while the purchasing power of the dollar is not staying caught up and wages aren't either.
Telling people the status quo is just fine isn't realistic.
You can thank the Gov't for causing the rising costs in education by making funds available for it. They've created a bubble just like they did in the housing market.
You apparently aren't aware of how the system works. When the gov't makes more money available, the colleges raise prices accordingly. This isn't the first time they've created a bubble; the real estate market with Fanny and Freddy laid the ground work for it. That's a fact, Jack.
Why is it ok for that to be the only option for kids nowadays when it used to be that you could love on your own and work your way through a university education previously?
If you want to decrease costs from the social safety net, help people get a better education. Standing on your ideological principles isn't going to fix the problem. Improving the quality of education nationally will.
Everyone, via tax money. Then these people, who might otherwise not have an education, will go on to have better paying jobs and therefore not only pay more in taxes, but also be able to support themselves without having to rely on the social safety net. Ultimately it would pay for itself.
The tax payers. The tax payers will also be paying for social safety net costs associated with people who are overwhelmed by their debt, so we will be paying one way or another. The difference is, the proposed method will lead to them paying us back.
We go to college for the success in the future, we don't decide on how much we can immediately pay for. Most of us want the best educations, but not all of us have super rich parents. Also, why do you have to be such a condescending asshole?
I treat every able bodied charity case the same. You control freaks want to force hard working tax payers to support your irresponsible butts from cradle to grave, pay for your school loans, pay for abortions and birth control, pay for your healthcare, force Transgender and Gay awareness on our kids in public schools, force Christian family owned businesses to cater events that go against their faith, redistribute our money as the Government sees fit, etc. etc.
I could go on and on about all the things I hate about control fanatics. I could care less how many of those things you support but i can guarantee you probably support most of them with your vote.
It is Liberals in the Democrat party who are the condescending control freaks, thinking they are the enlightened ones who can tell everyone else how to think and how to spend our money.
I'm sick of dead beats charity cases trying to force me to support their lives. You can't afford a nice COLLEGE? You don't go! You go to a community college. The same way I did not go to College because my parents could not afford it. I still got a job in a factory, worked hard, took night courses, got a promotion and life is good. I did it on my own and I sure as hell am not going to have idiots take my hard earned money away from my family just because they don't want to put in the hard work first.
Do fools like you think that free college money grows on tress? The middle class always has to foot the bill for every giveaway program from Democrats buying votes.
Just a while the Republican party block the ending of bill that gives 17 billion dollars a year to a small group of banks. They were for lowering taxes on the wealthiest Americans, why not us? If you hate Democrats so much, do you really think Republicans give a shit about you?
First off, I apologise for inferring you voted for Democrats as I see you are only 16 years old.
The GOP has always been the party that actually tries to give income tax cuts to the middle class, not the targeted tax breaks if you do what we want you to do from Democrats.
Democrats have always taken more of middle class's income to give to their low income voting blocks. Obamacare is a perfect example of this and has been the largest tax increase on the middle class in my life time. We are forced to pay for those who make less so they can have free healthcare sudsudues. You will be forced to buy Obamacare no matter how healthy you are when you turn 26(or pay a big fine). We will see how you like your first taste of Democrats redistributing your income. I have followed politics for 40 years and have seen it all.
Democrats have been playing this same record for decades. It goes something like this... The GOP only cares for the rich, they are racists, they hate women, hate the poor and want to kick granny into a snowbank.
If we were to hear BOTH sides of the story on that particular bill you mentioned and why they did what they did, you will have a better understnding of the bill. Not just what the Liberal media wants you to know.
When the GOP wants to cut corporate taxes, it's to keep the jobs here in America. It's to generate more jobs for you and me. It's not because they love rich people. Don't listen to idiot Liberals telling you how to think.
When the GOP was giving subsidies to oil companies, it was to help pay for the high cost of finding new oil reserves which would help keep oil prices lower for all Americans and make us less dependent on foreign oil. There is always more to the story than what the media tells you. One thing you should know at your young age. Our free press has become political and every network has a bias and an agenda. You really must listen to both sides before believing anything to be true.
I am also unable to vote, but I disagree with what you said:
The GOP has always been the party that actually tries to give income tax cuts to the middle class, not the targeted tax breaks if you do what we want you to do from Democrats.
We are forced to pay for those who make less so they can have free healthcare sudsudues. You will be forced to buy Obamacare no matter how healthy you are when you turn 26(or pay a big fine). We will see how you like your first taste of Democrats redistributing your income. I have followed politics for 40 years and have seen it all.
Conservatives say that people are poor because they don't work hard. No, they were born to a lower income family, couldn't go to a good school, and started a low-income job. They were working hard and getting promotions, and then they discover they have a severe illness that will cost thousands of dollars to cure. They couldn't buy insurance because it wasn't affordable, so they live in constant poverty. This is the situation of many people I know personally, and it is a global problem. The solution? Everyone chips in for affordable healthcare, if they can.
Democrats have been playing this same record for decades. It goes something like this... The GOP only cares for the rich, they are racists, they hate women, hate the poor and want to kick granny into a snowbank.
I thought myself this mud-slinging was getting old, but then Donald Trump ran for office. He is exactly what you described, from a women hater to a rich lover.
One thing you should know at your young age. Our free press has become political and every network has a bias and an agenda. You really must listen to both sides before believing anything to be true.
That is why I'm hoping you will reply and give me your opinions. However, by nature I am sort of socialist. I believe in the "radical idea of sharing". I believe if someone is suffering, even if it is his fault, he must be helped by the group because he has the potential to be productive. And if 80% of the money is controlled by millionaires, it won't hurt to give this guy free healthcare.
I'm glad you are at least asking the questions to try and determne the truth and what system is best for America.
You are doing what those on the Left do all the time. You bring up hypothetical heart wrenching stories of people who lost everything due to illness(to justify hideous systems such as Obamacare). Stories of Girls who were 12 years old getting raped and becoming pregnant(to justify abortion on demand for any reason). With every tragic school shooting the Left spews out their anti Gun rhetoric, etc. etc. etc.
The Left does this to tug on your emotions and it works great as you are living proof. Now lets take the issue of pre existing illness where a person might get laid off from his job and can no longer buy health insurance because of his illness. No one dissagress that this is a sad thing to see happen. We already have medicaid and welfare for situations like this! It's a sad thing and I believe the private sector can find ways to better deal with these situations without Government forcing their will on all Americans.
The problem with your scenario is that Government is not the answer! They bankrupt every single program they create. To help that person with the pre existing illness means they must hurt the middle class family to pay for his problems. Obamacare is crippling many middle class famiies who no longer can afford sending their kids to college because of the huge cost of premiums and deuctibles from mandates with Obamacare. Why does Obamacare force us to pay for abortions, birth control, vision, mental, etc.? These are not life threatening priorities so why make Obamacare so expensive for the middle class to subsidise others with these types of things. Everyone knows that the only way to make healthcare affordable is allow catastrophic healthcare options (that do not cover so many non life threatening things) with high deductibles so that it is not so expensive.
Socialism robs Peter to pay Paul and pretty soon there are not enough Peter's who are willing to work hard and be robbed just so everyone in America can have a mediocre life. What has made America the greatest nation on earth is the ability to succede, to get rich if that is your goal, by working hard, living responsibly, staying in school, etc. etc.
It's that carrot at the end of the string that propels our economy, gives incentives for people to do the hard work, take the risks necessary to start a business, to create jobs, which not only makes the owner of the busness rich, but also lifts up the middle class folks who work those jobs.
Socialism does just the opposite. It takes away all incentive to work hard and create those jobs because there will be no carrot at the end of the stick.... there will be but HIGH TAXES to equalize the playing field so everyone lives the same mediocre life regardless of work effort put forth. That is the recipee for dead economies and it has been shown that Sociaist nations have slower economies than Capitalists economies. Our welfare roles are exploding as we make it more and more a lifestlye rather than the safety net it was suppose to be.
Answer me why 50 years ago when we were far more capitaistic with far fewer Government programs, that the disparity between rich and poor was much less than today? Government can not fix the problem. People will fix the problem whether by boycotting those who abuse the system, etc. etc. Government is corrupt and creates this big money chrony capitalism.
Obama is the most liberal president in our lifetime and the wealth disparity has gotten much worse because of the dead economy we have had for his entire term. Get Government out of our lives, and good paying jobs will come back as decades ago.
Donald Trump is just a symbol of America finally being fed up with this political correctness being forced on everyone. I woud vote for a fence post over any Democrat, and hope that Rubio, Cruz, Carson, Huccabee, Santorum, or others woud beat out Trump. I don't trust that he is truly a conservative.
Listen, your radical idea of sharing is a noble, kind compassionate thing, but not by the threat of prison from a corrupt Government forcing that charity. America's charity used to be voluntarily given by our Churches and our intact families. It works much better than Government.
Don't even bother debating FromWithin. Being someone who previously debated him many, many times. You won't get anywhere and all he will do is piss you off due to his ignorance.
(Also he always decides to get personal when debating... :P)
We could pay for all good students to go to college if we would just shave a little bit off the national defense budget. Like 50 billion. Free college education would do a lot of good.
Idealistic youth. Many of us suffered the same impairment. Tolerate them with the same wisdom our fathers gave to us. They will learn the truth of things soon enough. Idealism will be replaced with realism. Then they will be us.
No, you did not suffer the same impairment. It is a matter of fact that the quality of primary education relative to other nations has dropped, the costs of higher education have significantly increased, financial support has stagnated, access to employment has dropped, and the minimum wage has increasingly lost pace with inflation. The present college aged cohort faces distinctly challenging economic obstacles that previous generations did not, in no small part owing to the excesses and stupidity of the previous generations. (Source)
Throughout history student demonstrations have seldom, if ever achieved or changed anything. Most people see such events for what they are, a collection of high minded, fresh faced innocents convinced that they have discovered how things should be done. We've heard it all before as typified by songs from the 1960s by the brilliant Bob Dylan such as ''The times they are a changing, get out of the way if you can't lend a hand for the times they are a changing'', and all that youthful jazz.
I treat every able bodied charity case the same. You control freaks want to force hard working tax payers to support your irresponsible butts from cradle to grave, pay for your school loans, pay for abortions and birth control, pay for your healthcare, force Transgender and Gay awareness on our kids in public schools, force Christian family owned businesses to cater events that go against their faith, redistribute our money as the Government sees fit, etc. etc.
I could go on and on about all the things I hate about control fanatics. I could care less how many of those things you support but i can guarantee you probably support most of them with your vote.
It is Liberals in the Democrat party who are the condescending control freaks, thinking they are the enlightened ones who can tell everyone else how to think and how to spend our money.
I'm sick of dead beats charity cases trying to force me to support their lives. You can't afford a nice COLLEGE? You don't go! You go to a community college. The same way I did not go to College because my parents could not afford it. I still got a job in a factory, worked hard, took night courses, got a promotion and life is good. I did it on my own and I sure as hell am not going to have idiots take my hard earned money away from my family just because they don't want to put in the hard work first.
Do fools like you think that free college money grows on tress? The middle class always has to foot the bill for every giveaway program from Democrats buying votes.
Liberals / democrats, your chickens have come home to roost. You've created your own Frankenstein and now he's going to eat you- you are finally reaping what you've sown. Enjoy. :-)
Neither Liberals nor Democratics were capable of creating this. This was created by the social changes in this country, and has happened in many other countries across the world.
There are individuals who will help serve as a catalyst for individual events, but this event is not based on a new sentiment, it is based on one that has been growing in this country for quite a while and has manifested in multiple forms.
Education is not just an asset to those receiving it, but to the society at large. If you oppose publicly funded higher education then it ought to follow that you also oppose publicly funded primary education as well. Yet that rarely seems to be the case.
Minimum wage is not a new policy nor has it consistently precipitated recession or depression with any significant regularity to suggest it has a causal influence on economic downturn. Wealth disparity strikes me as far more threatening to long-term economic stability and vitality, as does the egregious rate of debt accrued by most Americans (of all generations, really).
As for debt forgiveness, that I oppose. You knew what you were getting into when you signed the contracts. College debt can be obscene but there are also means of deferring payment, adjusting rate of repayment, consolidating loans, and employment repayment incentive programs. It may mean you have to do some things you do not want to do for a while, but that is the reality at present and you should have known it going in. If you genuinely cannot manage the debt then file for bankruptcy and accept the consequences of doing so.
As for the racist patriarchy, yes and no. Some systemic issues persist but the flashpoints lately are hardly representative of that. Learn to identify what is actually a problem versus what does not require or benefit from your attention. Grow a thicker skin and a greater tolerance for civil disagreement. Otherwise you only hurt your own cause where it really matters.
Back when you dropped out of high school did you keep in touch with any friends that went to college? Were they able to afford college without having to go into massive debt and without having to use taxpayer money? Not everything is about making taxpayers pay for it. Is college actually affordable right now?
When you dropped out of high school, college was tuition free? Can't you see why people are complaining? College used to be tuition free, and now it is not.
Why should I have an answer for that? You had a chance to get free college back when you were younger. Just because you were too dumb for college doesn't mean that the college kids now deserve to have different opportunities. How did you afford the free college back in your day?
The alternative is welfare. You are part of the United States of America. You can't remove yourself from the system. You need to do something to help them out. Period. End of story. They can't get by any more. The system is broken. You have 3 choices. Pay them money, or fix the system, or let someone else choose for you. Why would you pick choice 3?
I already answered. You have 3 choices. Pay for tuition for others, fix the broken college system, or let someone else decide for you. Why do you take option 3?
That or fix the broken college system, or let someone else pick for you. I can see from your reading comprehension that you don't understand what it is like in college.
The state and federal government. The state already pays a fair amount of it, but if we took some funds from the federal budget, say the defense budget and corporate welfare, than we could pay for it just fine.
The federal government allocated approximately $141 billion on education in fiscal year 2014. The federal government spent a total of $3.5 trillion in fiscal year 2013. That means the approximate $141 billion in education spending accounts for approximately 4 percent of the entire federal budget.
Though the federal government now funnels more money to higher education as a whole, states still supply a greater share of funding to public universities. Public colleges educate 68 percent of all students in the U.S., and in 2013 they received an average of 21 percent of their funding from state funds and 16 percent of their funding from the federal government. Tuition and fees also accounted for 21 percent of public university revenue.
