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Has natural selection ceased to exist as a phenomenon in human beings?

Survival of all kinds of people has to an extent been ensured in today's life of a human being.. does that mean natural selection is no longer at play?

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This site is evidence that natural selection has been bypassed by humans. We now are under the influence of socially constructed selection. Take Outlaw60 or Bronto for example, in nature they would be very, very dead by now, but the stupidity that should be their bane is actually rewarded in society because their stupid values are those valued by society. If you are against the status quo, you are ostracized whereas those mindless parrots who follow it are rewarded, as demonstrated by the fact that right wing trolls flood the site and the few reasonable people are constantly drowned out by a constant stream of bullshit. Selection in these times comes down to what cultures value, and those who are at the top are using the stupidity of the masses to create a culture that benefits them, while the masses are rewarded for serving the establishment, leaving those who are vastly superior to either join those at the top in being a scumbag or live their life as a ridiculed hermit.

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This site is evidence that natural selection has been bypassed by humans. We now are under the influence of socially constructed selection. Take Outlaw60 or Bronto for example, in nature they would be very, very dead by now, but the stupidity that should be their bane is actually rewarded in society because their stupid values are those valued by society. If you are against the status quo, you are ostracized whereas those mindless parrots who follow it are rewarded, as demonstrated by the fact that right wing trolls flood the site and the few reasonable people are constantly drowned out by a constant stream of bullshit. Selection in these times comes down to what cultures value, and those who are at the top are using the stupidity of the masses to create a culture that benefits them, while the masses are rewarded for serving the establishment, leaving those who are vastly superior to either join those at the top in being a scumbag or live their life as a ridiculed hermit.

Honestly, right now I see no difference between you and outlaw. I would've appreciated it if you actually contributed to the debate.

Side: nopetynope

Yes and no. Humans have long drawn a line between ourselves and nature since the dawn of civilization, so in that sense once we removed ourselves from it, "natural selection" effectively ceases due to how completely different our way of life was.

But humans are social creatures, and civilization was a fairly "natural" progression for our species. In that sense, there is a very real form of natural selection that exists within human society, it just values different things than natural selection did pre-civilization.

Ultimately, however, it is still survival of the most adaptable.

Side: nopetynope

I would say natural selection cannot change. Only the environments change. Think of our world as if we were parasites in a host. In a parasite world, many organisms can flourish rather than a few. If resources were low, only those with strong immune systems, etc or those who found those resources would live.

Side: nopetynope

There are signs on hair dryers that say, "Do not use in shower." If the people who need that sign are still alive, then Natural Selection hasn't figured out a way to weed them out. ;)

Side: nopetynope

Exactly my point, as we progress as a species.. we’re aiming at increasing chances of one’s survival. So maybe with a certain amount of technology, one day, we might just eliminate natural selection from dictating who will survive..

Side: nopetynope

We need to put (Darwinism) natural selection back into society. We need to put chlorine into the gene pool ;)

Side: nopetynope

ABORTION? HELLO?

The Democrat Party has decided that they will make it legal for us to perform our own natural selection. If you are a viable baby, the Left has deemed that you can be selected to be dismembered for any reason up to birth.

If evolution were true, we would not be so selfishly evil to kill our own innocent children. Most animals have more compassion than these extremist pro abortion fanatics.

Side: nopetynope
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ABORTION? HELLO?

The Democrat Party has decided that they will make it legal for us to perform our own natural selection. If you are a viable baby, the Left has deemed that you can be selected to be dismembered for any reason up to birth.

If evolution were true, we would not be so selfishly evil to kill our own innocent children. Most animals have more compassion than these extremist pro abortion fanatics.

Not everything is about politics, mate.

Nobody cares what the left or what the right think, in the context of this debate.

We're talking about the species as a whole here. Not groups of people with certain ideologies.

Side: Yes
FromWithin(7131) Clarified
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The title of your debate is questioning if natural selection has ceased.

I just explained how it has NOT!

Side: Yes
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Yes in that was would normally have killed us (old age, injury) has the ability to be healed with modern medicine.

No in that.....some people are still really stupid and do idiotic things that no amount of medicine or modern technology can heal.

Side: nopetynope

That was pretty much my initial stance, but think about it..

What hunger and non availability of resources and reasons along that line could do, (naturally select) would take an earthquake or a famine, just in a bigger scale to naturally select.. so we currently haven't terminated the phenomenon, we've just moved toward doing that over time..

Side: nopetynope