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ANTIFA Nazis
Debate Score:28
Arguments:26
Total Votes:32
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Who's worse, ANTIFA or the Nazis?

ANTIFA

Side Score: 20
VS.

Nazis

Side Score: 8
3 points

Hitler lost. The Nazi threat was eliminated in 1945. The more destructive and insidious Communist threat persisted until 1991. We now live in a time when Nazi ideology is so unpopular that people can justify all kinds of political violence so long as they claim to be against the Nazis and Fascists. As of now, ANTIFA is a greater threat to civil society and freedom. Their misdeeds are more widespread and are constantly rationalized, while the misdeeds of Neo-Nazis are narrow and roundly condemned.

Saying "fuck Nazis" is not controversial. Saying "fuck ANTIFA" shouldn't be, but it is.

Side: ANTIFA

Adolf Hitler's Nazis vs modern day Antifa? Hitler's Nazis were far worse.

Today's pseudo Nazis vs today's antifa? Antifa is worse. As vile as today's pseudo Nazis are, they don't go around looting, hurting people, burning buildings, shutting down speeches by the opposition, waving flags from other countries, burning the U.S. flag, fire bombing the police, and in some cases attacking people they assumed were Nazis who were actually innocent bystanders and/or even leftists.

Side: ANTIFA
1 point

The Nazis were worse than ANTIFA for obvious reasons. Nowadays though, ANTIFA are the ones violently suppressing political opposition. Note also that those they attack are moderate conservatives and not actual Nazis.

Side: ANTIFA
0 points

Nazis make better villains because everything sounds funnier in German.

Side: ANTIFA
3 points

There is nothing wrong with an anti-fascist. What IS wrong is the hatred and divisiveness generated by the haters of "that other President" you know, the one who is to blame for that meeting to assure his "failure"! The one who stirred up the hatred for even thinking his kind could occupy the White House! The one who stirred up white nationalism again! The one who turned the American Flag into a symbol belonging to only HALF of the country ... those who wanted "his kind" out of the White House and just KNEW that every American hero was a conservative! Now, they want a fascist, one party, preferably an all white party with southern Christian morals and kept clean of Dem racist Liberals!

Hatred spreads, those who spread it should expect it BACK. That doesn't make it rig ... um...correct, but pushing for a Fascist (one party, "super race") government is going to spur some uncontrolled anger, but THAT is what some (like Steve Bannon) WANT! Divide and conquer! And yes, much of this IS sarcastic! The Nazis amoungus wont be able to decide what is!

Side: Nazis
1 point

correct, but pushing for a Fascist (one party, "super race")

Which isn't being done, and you don't know one single person in real life who advocates for it. Millions of conservatives aren't white by the way and millions of liberals are white...

Side: ANTIFA
2 points

Sad.

If people actually think that a group opposing fascism were (are) worse than Nazis, I really am concerned for our future.

Side: Nazis
TzarPepe(763) Clarified
1 point

Anti-Fa is the name of an organization. The name is not the essence of what they stand for.

Anti-Fa is older than Nazi-Germany. The purpose of anti-fa is to bring about communist revolution, not simply the opposition of fascism.

Side: ANTIFA

I honestly hope this thread is sarcastic. Who's worse? The Nazis or the people who hate Nazis?

What's that? Oh, an innocent bystander got punched? Well, the allies firebombed entire cities.

Side: Nazis
Amarel(5669) Disputed
3 points

Are you actually referencing WWII to justify some random innocent person getting punched in 2017?

Side: ANTIFA
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

I agree with much of what you said, but, let's not forget what the AXIS did to London, Poland and other places FIRST. Yes, the allies firebombed entire cities in an effort to BE ANTIFA! To prevent being overrun BY Nazis.

Side: ANTIFA
TzarPepe(763) Clarified
1 point

Anti-Fa is a communist organization.

They existed before the Allies ever retaliated against the Axis.

Anti-Fa is about overthrowing the government and bringing about communism.

I don't think many people would want this if they understood what would happen if anti-fa got their way.

Side: ANTIFA
1 point

Well, the allies firebombed entire cities.

The Allies weren't civilians. They were military personel fighting against a group who was invading other countries at will. False equivalencies make you look stupid. Of course, in your case, a lot of things you say make you look stupid.

Side: ANTIFA
1 point

The Nazis or the people who hate Nazis?

I hate Nazis, you are white, you speak German, and white supremacist groups were openly leftists for decades after WWII at the height of white supremacy. I should punch you in the face obviously. I'm in a group called ANTIFA, and you support Islamofascism, so I have no choice but to punch you...

Nomenclature logic for the day

Factmachine's name is "Factmachine". I mean if your name is Factmachine, everything you say is a fact, obviously, because...that's his name. I mean hell, who can argue with that brilliant logic...

Side: ANTIFA
0 points

I hate Nazis

Lol. No you don't. You worship their policies on nationalism, treatment of minorities, Communism, propaganda and social division. You say you hate Nazis, and yet this morning you were repeating Hitler's own lies about his politics!!

Side: Nazis
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

This is why you deserve to fucking die screaming nomenclature, you think antifa actually fights fascism? All they do is scream at people and throw stink bombs and piss at reporters and innocent bystanders. The only reason antifa doesn't have everyone who disagrees with them in concentration camps is because they're too stupid to gain any real power.

Side: ANTIFA
0 points

This is why you deserve to fucking die screaming nomenclature, you think antifa actually fights fascism?

Are you aware that Antifa fucking stands for Antifascism? Do you presume it to be a good recruitment policy to open up a fascist group and call it Antifa?

Side: Nazis
excon(18261) Clarified
0 points

Hello N:

No, it's NOT sarcastic.. There ARE people on this website who think the anarchist communist organization known as ANTIFA is WORSE than the Nazis they attacked in Charlottsville. I dunno HOW you missed it.. Trump thinks the Nazis who were attacked are "fine people". He has some supporters here, and I wanna KNOW what's in their brain..

What I hear from them, is that well, THESE Nazis didn't kill any Jews, as though THAT makes them fine people.

excon

Side: ANTIFA
TzarPepe(763) Clarified
1 point

It looks to me like they are both promoting lousy ideologies that ultimately conclude in the same thing... Global domination.

Really, communists and nazis are not that different. The main thing they fight over is who gets to control everything.

To hell with both of them.

Also, Trump doesn't think any of that crap, you believing fake news.

Side: ANTIFA
FactMachine(430) Disputed
1 point

Sexcon, I hate Trump but at least I don't have to blatantly and deliberately misinterpret everything he says. Not everyone at that protest was either a leftist or a nazi, there where more than just nazis on the other "side" you blathering blubbering bloody blighter. Just because the worst pieces of shit there happened to be neonazis doesn't mean there weren't other forms of pieces of shit there including people on the left like BLM and antifa, in fact if you ask me they where ALL pieces of shit for the most part. Just because neonazis suck doesn't mean other people don't suck and just because there where nazis doesn't mean everyone who wasn't a feminist, antifa or BLM was a nazi, what part don't you understand?

Side: ANTIFA
Nomenclature(1257) Clarified
0 points

No, it's NOT sarcastic.. There ARE people on this website who think the anarchist communist organization known as ANTIFA is WORSE than the Nazis they attacked in Charlottsville. I dunno HOW you missed it..

No, I didn't miss it. I'm fully aware of the scale of liar we have on this site. What I don't understand is why you are comparing them in the first place. Surely this just legitimises the question?

Side: ANTIFA