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Why the Constitution is under attack from the left

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Hello W:

I'm an atheist.. It appears that John Adams is saying that the Constitution isn't for me.. Well, it IS, so FUCK HIM!

excon

PS> I also don't believe that John Adams said that.. Can you verify it??

PPS> Apparently he DID say it, so I'll stick with FUCK HIM!

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Grugore(824) Disputed
2 points

It's obvious that he was correct, whether you like it or not. God does not accept your atheism. There is no such thing as an atheist. There will be no excuses when you stand before your Creator to be judged. It's atheists like you who are destroying this country. You cant blame it on Christians. Christians are a small minority. That can only mean atheists are fucking things up. It's obvious.

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Hypothetical(68) Disputed
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You believe in your God because you were raised to. There is no evidence and no reason whatsoever why you should believe in God besides it being indoctrinated into your personality from early childhood. So it isn't your fault you're so misguided, though it is your fault you've never stepped back and took a look at the evidence to make your own decision as to what's true. I can tell you haven't because you still believe.

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TheDevil(6) Disputed
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Christian percentage in the US: 70.6%.

Atheist percentage in the US: 3.1%.

Source: http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

You were saying? Something objectively false undoubtedly leading up to an equally false accusation that you're somehow oppressed? In a country where you can't even be elected to public office if you're an Atheist?

Don't worry, when the Christian god takes its rightful place among mythology and your religion is actually in the minority- and it will happen in your lifetime- we'll treat you better than you treated us.

Oh, and god "doesn't accept my atheism" because god doesn't accept anything. Know why? Because it doesn't exist.

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Bronto(2006) Disputed
2 points

PS> I also don't believe that John Adams said that.. Can you verify it??

PPS> Apparently he DID say it, so I'll stick with FUCK HIM

Come now Con. That weed cannot possibly be that good. Okay. Maybe that isn't true.

Nevertheless, it looks like he is saying it was designed for that during a time period where it would have made sense to do so. 99.99% of the populace was religious. It was the equivalence back then to saying "but the children" today. He was pandoring to get those political brownie points. Do you know what brownies are Con? Sniff sniff...those aren't regular brownies are they con?

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Cartmen(53) Disputed
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Do you know what brownies are Con? Sniff sniff...those aren't regular brownies are they con?

He never mentioned brownies or weed though.

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Spuds(1070) Disputed
2 points

I'm an atheist.. It appears that John Adams is saying that the Constitution isn't for me..

Argument of presentism. There was no voting block or culture that looked like you in the 1700s.

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Cartmen(53) Disputed
1 point

There were atheists back then though.

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
1 point

STUPOR STUPID speaks in it's confused state not knowing if it is a JEW or an ATHEIST !!!!! Does a grocery list confuse you FLAMING IDIOTS ?????????

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Well, I'm one of those "moral people" he is talking about, and I don't have a problem with the "religious people" he is ALSO talking about. Of course, that is arguable depending on WHO'S morals you are talking about. He didn't specify ….

Anyway, we also have to consider the "freedom of religion" in that Constitution, as well as the "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion", which, I think, considers the "morals" of any certain religion. I try to be "moralistic" according to the morals of SOCIETY and the "natural god" (Mother Nature, IMO) mentioned IN the Constitution. Atheistic people can be as moral (and often MORESO), than many Christians … like the married Deacon that tried to get into my mothers pants! Anyway, I respect Mr. Adam's thoughts, there were other founders that would disagree with him, I'm sure. Got any of THEIR opinions?? As seen on CD every day, not everybody agrees with everybody, and nobody's opinion is binding …. only the majority opinion.

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
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Well, I'm one of those "moral people" he is talking about, and I don't have a problem with the "religious people" he is ALSO talking about. Of course, that is arguable depending on WHO'S morals you are talking about. He didn't specify ….

Anyway, we also have to consider the "freedom of religion" in that Constitution, as well as the "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion", which, I think, considers the "morals" of any certain religion. I try to be "moralistic" according to the morals of SOCIETY and the "natural god" (Mother Nature, IMO) mentioned IN the Constitution. Atheistic people can be as moral (and often MORESO), than many Christians … like the married Deacon that tried to get into my mothers pants! Anyway, I respect Mr. Adam's thoughts, there were other founders that would disagree with him, I'm sure. Got any of THEIR opinions?? As seen on CD every day, not everybody agrees with everybody, and nobody's opinion is binding …. only the majority opinion.

PSYCHO BABBLE tell me all about your Socialist Morals you PARTY PARROT IDIOT!

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Cartmen(53) Disputed
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Well, I'm one of those "moral people" he is talking about

You aren't moral though.

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AlofRI(2631) Clarified
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Obviously, you don't know me. Obviously, you would measure my morality against what YOU consider "moral". Obviously I set my own moral standards, just like you.

If I go by the moral standards I see on CD, in Washington, in the hypocrisy of the Evangelical right, in the disgusting amount of racism, the denigration of women, the capitalistic cheating in the country, this administration in general, the amount of lies it takes to run it, etc. …..Yes, I consider myself more moral than most.

Nobody is perfectly moral, take Vice President Pence. He accepts the immorality of Trump, protects him at every turn after he said Clinton should be removed from office for a consensual BJ. (And don't say it was the lie! THAT would be hypocritical considering the 6000+ known lies from THIS liar-in-chief!) HIS lies are a danger to the country! "Judge not...……"

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FromWithin(7120) Disputed
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AlofRI keeps ignoring his support of aborting viable babies every time he votes for the Democrat Party, and then tells us all how he is a moral guy.

Can those on the Left be in any more denial? Is it possible to be that blind to their own inhumanity? I don't think so.... they are deceptive liars and hypocrites.

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Grugore(824) Disputed
2 points

I believe this will answer the question of just what these people are like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/reprobate-mind.html

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The ones attacking the Constitution are those of the "religious right". They intend to rewrite the Constitution to reflect the Bible. It does NOT! It is NOT SUPPOSED to! THAT would destroy "freedom of religion"! (As well as the First Amendment!) THAT is an ATTACK! THAT is NOT "the left"!

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Bronto(2006) Disputed
1 point

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-John Adams

(Source: taken from debate we are in)

Supporting Evidence: John Adams Quote (www.brainyquote.com)
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Bronto(2006) Disputed
1 point

The ones attacking the Constitution are those of the "religious right".

Is it too much to request one example...

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
1 point

The ones attacking the Constitution are those of the "religious right". They intend to rewrite the Constitution to reflect the Bible. It does NOT! It is NOT SUPPOSED to! THAT would destroy "freedom of religion"! (As well as the First Amendment!) THAT is an ATTACK! THAT is NOT "the left"!

Excuse GRANDPAW here because HE is one CONFUSED DUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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outlaw60(14227) Disputed
1 point

GRANDPAW the speaker of PSYCHO BABBLE has it some confusion on religion ! Now that is not surprising at all because HIS CNN and MSDNC consumption keep it CONFUSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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George Washington fought and sacrificed and took risks, chances and placed Him and His family in great danger.

Every time I think of Him - I am so grateful and thankful.

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Hello,

What's Moral?

Is it moral to abstain from hitting people, because you don't wanna get hit back, or must you BELIEVE hitting people is empirically and morally WRONG?

And, what's the difference, anyway?

excon

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Bronto(2006) Disputed
1 point

Is it moral to abstain from hitting people, because you don't wanna get hit back, or must you BELIEVE hitting people is empirically and morally WRONG?

It's an animal instinct to weigh up the threat of retribution if you go in for the meat. That's why hyenas and Jekyls circle around very slowly. That injured lion or hippo might not be injured enough.

The left's question will be "is the right injured enough?" Looks like no.

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Hello lofRI

You are right - The FACT is - The founding fathers who wrote the constitution

The founding fathers - were adding things that came from the Bible to the Constitution already.

The American Law in The USA has many things in our laws that come from the Bible.

The ones attacking the problems that come as society advances and OTHER UNBIBLICAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL POPULATIONS BEGIN TO POUR INTO THE COUNTRY . is "religious right".

"religious right" has a RIGHT - to demand that the Constitution and the Bible both are to be followed and an important part of our lives.

The Constitution does - REFLECT THE BIBLE.

AND IS SUPPOSED to do THAT.

ALL ASPECTS OF THE BIBLE - FIT PERFECTLY - WITH TODAYS E V E N T S - in MODERN TIMES.

THE RIGHT WINGERS - ARE HAPPY TO SHOW THE DEGENERATE DECEPTIVE AND DRUG ADDICTED and CHILD MURDERING , LAZY IGNORANT LEFT WING SOCALISTs - - THE FACTS.

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dashosphe(13) Clarified
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The rights and freedoms that Americans are given - are deeper than the Constitution.

These RIGHTS and FREEDOMS come directly from the very LAW of The Bible.

The Bible a little rigorous and strict concerning the penalty and punishment for - things such as RAPE.

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In The Bible, the punishment for rape was a full automatic death penalty for the rapist.

Blood crimes that were killing and infecting thousands upon thousands of people and causing suffering and pain also were punishable.

BLOOD CRIMES - such as Beastality, Adultery, and Homosexuality were major problems that were causing infections and diseases to be spread to innocent victims in the Bible.

The Bible supports the basics of clean, healthy and respectable living - Cleaning pots, pans, vessels, Washing, BATHING Every Single time after SEX, Washing after touching Dead People or animals. Keeping away from other people if You touch a Dead ROTTING Animal. Making sure to Mary a virgin or a widow. No sex with Animals. No gay sex.

'When any man has a discharge from his body, his discharge is unclean. ....'If a woman has a discharge, and the discharge from her body is blood - everything that she sits on shall be unclean

The LAW was to --- separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, lest they die in their uncleanness. Don't Eat bats, Lions, Cats, Rats, Eel, stingray, and catfish fishes with no fins and scales) Snakes. Don't Eat Raw Blood.

the Point of punishment for BLOOD CRIMES> The law of Moses, Punished People for Committing BLOOD CRIMES against Others. Creating Diseases, Birth Defects, and Plagues. Today People Run Wild, INFECTING Millions. .......God Did not put up With this. the actors were punished and the Disease, infections, and Danger to Innocent Lives and People Following the LAW were safe. Water supplies, Food Supplies and All Cooking and Daily Living was Safe. Today we have millions of innocent people with diseases and these BLOOD CRIMES are destroying millions of people. Today nearly 37 million people worldwide living with HIV, approximately 1.8 million are innocent children.

There are 23,000 to 46,000 children in the U.S. with Hepatitis C. In comparison, approximately four million American adults have the virus.

The Bible shows how to live in a safe, clean healthy and family oriented life - in BIBLICAL Days, Once You are Infected with a Disease - You are doomed to a Life of Horrible Suffering, pain, torment, agony, and Death. No CURES, no medical Treatment, no treatment and no painkillers.

The infected people infect the water supply and food and animals and spread to the rest of your multiple wives an future children and the entire plagues can be spread to hundreds of other people.

Remember that the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, -- Lev 18:3 YOU SHALL NOT DO - after the doings of the land of Canaan, neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. Lev 18:4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. Lev 18:5 Ye shall, therefore, keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD. Moses Goes on to explaining the Details of the Behavior of the People who were living in the land of Canaan. Lev 18: 6 - 21 eXplains that they were incestuous people who were having sexual encounters with their own Daughters, Sons their Own Mothers and Fathers. A huge seXual Fest of Incest. Lev 18:22 eXplains that they were into HomoseXuality... Lev 18:23 explains that they were into seX with Animals. Lev 18:24 Defile, not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: Lev 18:25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, \

Lev 19:29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a wh0re ; lest the land fall to whoredom. God was demanding that His people not become infected with germs and diseases that would destroy them.

This is the entire purpose of Gods law. REMEMBER- THEIR BLOOD BE UPON THEM.

BLOOD CRIMES ARE REAL. Especially when there are no cures, nothing but death and suffering to whomever You infect.

In the Bible days, there were no treatments, tests, medicines and antibiotics, cures, surgeries and modern advanced technologies. Once You catch a disease You and everyone that You knowingly infect are doomed to suffer a horrible, painful and excruciating, torturous and agonizing Painful horrible death. You beg for someone to knock You in the head and get it over with as Your penis or guts or liver or organs are literally slowly rotting off - with no painkillers, no treatments, and medicine. The Jews were being constantly attacked and were in a constant state of war. They were always on the run and living and surviving with all of Your neighbors attacking You is nearly impossible especially when Your neighbors are also spreading diseases in the water supply and by having sexual contact with people in Your Own Neighborhoods. Leviticus has explained many of the details of the violent, evil behaviors of the neighbors of the Israelites who were allied against Israel and attacking them.

Even if You or I do not believe in a deity – we can still read The Bible Stories and see what they were dealing with and what they had to do to survive and keep from being infected with widespread diseases, plagues and symptoms.

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TheNotorious(9) Clarified
2 points

The rights and freedoms that Americans are given - are deeper than the Constitution.

These RIGHTS and FREEDOMS come directly from the very LAW of The Bible.

Moron, the United States is founded on the principle of separating church from state.

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Please understand -

I am not trying to convince anyone that the Constitution was written - for the unification of CHURCH AND STATE.

The United States Constitution does not state that there is a separation of church and state.

NOR a UNIFICATION of church and state.

The first part of the First Amendment to the Constitution SIMPLY states:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

AS A CITIZEN - AM AM FREE TO UNITE THE CHURCH AND STATE IN MY OWN PERSONAL LIFE -

WHILE I DEMAND THAT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY MOB - NOT BE ALLOWED TO STEAL MY HARD EARNED MONEY - TO SUPPORT THOSE WHO REFUSE TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE AND COMMON SENSE.

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dashosphe(13) Clarified
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The Democrat Party mob - somehow has perverted the situation - to enforcing the idea that their lack of morality and responsibility - and immorality that is to be " THE ESTABLISHMENT and way of life - THAT IS FUNDED BY THE STATE. " / by taXpayers.

As long as they are less religious - than the religious party - they feel they have a right to the treasures of the state ? no matter what their voters and supporters are idolizing , adoring or worshiping ?

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The Democrat Party mob - somehow has perverted the situation - to enforcing the idea that their lack of morality and responsibility - and immorality that is to be " THE ESTABLISHMENT - and way of life - THAT IS FUNDED BY THE STATE. " / by taXpayers.

As long as they appear to be less religious - than the religious party - they feel they have a right to all of the treasures of the state ? no matter what Democrat voters and supporters are idolizing, adoring or worshiping ?

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