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Because we actually have evidence. Fossil records prove evoultion and their is no good argument to prove God exists. So reason number one would the lack of evidence of God.
Can you draw us some cartoon animations so we can see your evidence of life arising from non-living matter and intelligence coming from nothing? Please make the cartoon complete from molecules through fish and amphibians and reptiles showing all the shape shifting so we can see your evidence.
You know so little about Evolution is must hurt your head when you try to fathom it.
Shape shifting is not needed. The differences between different species begin at the genetic level. that is, even beneath the cellular level, due to the written molecular code of the DNA and rNA. One species does not become complete and morph into another all of a sudden.
How does it feel to be schooled by somebody you think you're smarter than? You should be used to it by now.
Take four minutes our of your busy day to marvel at "The story of Us."
this is considered by many Evo Biologists to be one of the best and most comprehensive and beautifully illustrative videos delineating our Evolution.........
That's just a cartoon. That's all it is, a cartoon. You gotta be kidding, it's a joke.
They have the GEICO insurance company caveman walking buck naked pretending to be a Neanderthal, and it's supposed to be serious? If anything, that would prove Neanderthals were the same as us. They should get that guy out of the picture.
Beautifully illustrative? there is nothing beautiful in implying life is meaningless and hopeless, and you have no real value because life has no real meaning. If you think that is beautiful, keep the cartoon drawings please, I think it's ugly, hoping only that death ends suffering to escape reality.
Here's the same story told in 2.5 minutes.........the exact same story, and it really is much more beautiful staring Boobzilla who is much better looking than the naked GEICO insurance company caveman....and Boobzilla shows much better manners with a little modesty, at least wearing a bra and not strutting buck naked.
Yes. he could and does. I believe in what is called Theistic Evolution.
God simply uses the methods and functions and genetic Inheritance as a means of Creation. We all know the Genesis account of Creation is only a fable. Meant as a cautionary tale for Hebes who were forgetting the importance of the Sabbath while in Babylonian captivity.
With Theistic Evolution you don't have to choose between God and science! It's both!
Not all mutations involve growth - deletions reduce the size and point mutations, etc. keep the same size, but result in different genome - But, there ARE insertion mutations (as I have explained to you like 5 times or so now.) Insertions DO increase the size of the genome.
When we observe mutation, you say we need to see beneficial mutation;
when we observe beneficial mutation, you say we need to observe speciation;
when we observe speciation, you say we need to observe a change in kind
You sure you don't want to skip a few steps??
See again my prior posts here and here for de novo genes, beneficial mutations, etc., etc.
e.g.:
"Another mutation of E. coli facilitated amino acid catabolism under starvation conditions, enabling the mutant to outcompete the parental wild-type.53 This increased catabolism resulted from a genomic rearrangement (Figure 3). The first step of this rearrangement was insertion of an indigenous IS5 element between the promoter and a CRP-binding site (catabolite regulatory protein) of the starvationinducible cstA gene.54"
"Hence, certain environmental conditions seem to favor bacteria with specific genes duplicated. This may have provided the organism a temporary increase in gene expression of those duplicated genes, which apparently helped the organism cope with the higher temperature."
The genome is "the complete set of genes or genetic material present in a cell or organism."
You seem to confuse mutations with growth in a genome, as if the mutations cause one creatures genome to change into a different genome by adding DNA. You cannot show one example of this happening in nature at any time anywhere.
Your imagination is the only thing in which DNA mutations cause one creature to grow into a different creature with it's own genome. That's why you need cartoon animations to show your evidence....fairy tale stuff for fools to believe in. ;))
Go ahead and draw us some pictures so we can see what you believe happened.
Your knowledge does not impress me at all, since you put your beliefs above your knowledge. Evolution is nothing but a belief in which you excuse yourself from moral accountability. It's the false promise of being able to escape from the reality of being you in death. You won't get out of being you in death. You are stuck in dying forever if you don't get saved from Hell. Believing in evolution does not make you right, it makes you dead....a walking talking dead person who is going go be dying in Hell forever, begging for the death you believed in by evolution.
No idiot, religion has the false promise of being able to be a good person. God promises perfect justice, and that's what sinners get in Hell. I don't see why you think God makes a false promise of unconditional love, I don't know where you got the idea that God's love for you is unconditional. You cannot know God's love when you are in defiance of Him, you can only know His wrath and that's what you are under as a sinner, on death row imprisoned by your sin, leading to execution of justice in Hell. You are trying to use religion to get out of reality. You don't want justice because it goes against you and you know you are guilty and deserve punishment...don't you?
God poured out His wrath on His own Son in your place, Jesus took it for you so that if you will repent of your sin and believe on Him in His resurrection He will save you and you will be forgiven. That's how much God loved you, that he died for you to save you from hell. Religion is what people do to try to keep themselves out of Hell. Jesus Christ in dying for your sins, and rising from the dead to justify all who believe on Him is what God did for us to save us from Hell and bring us into His Kingdom of Heaven forever to live like angels in bodies like Jesus's resurrected body where there are many mansions, streets of gold so pure it's transparent, the river of living waters flowing forever and the tree of life in eternal bloom.
Go on and believe in the promises of evolution if you think it can keep you out of Hell. Be a fool....oh yeah, I don't have to tell you that, you do that all by yourself.
Sorry, Saint. But you are just plain wrong here. Mutations alter the DNA sequences and thus DO become part of what we call the human genome. Look at the genome like a book. Look at a mutation like typos that are inserted into the "story." So, be it for good or bad, they DO alter the story. I think your problem with understanding mutations is that you think they are always bad.
this is totally wrong.
Look......a gene mutation is a permanent alteration in the DNA sequence that makes up a gene, such that the sequence differs from what is found in most people. Mutations range in size; they can affect anywhere from a single DNA building block (base pair) to a large segment of a chromosome that includes multiple genes.
And remember that Gene mutations can be classified in two major ways:
Hereditary mutations are inherited from a parent and are present throughout a person’s life in virtually every cell in the body. These mutations are also called germline mutations because they are present in the parent’s egg or sperm cells, which are also called germ cells.
(When an egg and a sperm cell unite, the resulting fertilized egg cell receives DNA from both parents. If this DNA has a mutation, the child that grows from the fertilized egg will have the mutation in each of his or her cells.)
And then Acquired (or somatic) mutations occur at some time during a person’s life and are present only in certain cells--not in every cell in the body. These changes can be caused by environmental factors such as ultraviolet radiation from the sun, or can occur if a mistake is made as DNA copies itself during cell division.
So......... Acquired mutations in somatic cells (cells other than sperm and egg cells) cannot be passed on to the next generation.
Genetic changes that are described as de novo (new) mutations can be either hereditary or somatic. In some cases, the mutation occurs in a person’s egg or sperm cell but is not present in any of the person’s other cells. but......In other cases, the mutation occurs in the fertilized egg shortly after the egg and sperm cells unite. (It is often impossible to tell exactly when a de novo mutation happened.) As the fertilized egg divides, each resulting cell in the growing embryo will have the mutation.
Somatic mutations that happen in a single cell early in embryonic development can lead to a situation called mosaicism. These genetic changes are not present in a parent’s egg or sperm cells, or in the fertilized egg, but happen a bit later when the embryo includes several cells. As all the cells divide during growth and development, cells that arise from the cell with the altered gene will have the mutation, while other cells will not. Depending on the mutation and how many cells are affected, mosaicism may or may NOT cause health problems.
Most disease-causing gene mutations are uncommon in the general population. However, other genetic changes occur more frequently. Genetic alterations that occur in more than 1 percent of the population are called polymorphisms. They are common enough to be considered a normal variation in the DNA. Polymorphisms are responsible for many of the normal differences between people such as eye color, hair color, and blood type.
hope this helps.
ps....full disclosure here: some of this I wrote right now, some I pasted from a paper I did two years ago on mutations that I have on a thumb drive. (2014....UM/my.notes/bio/303/Word.Doc/files)
"What is a gene mutation and how do mutations occur?
A gene mutation is a permanent alteration in the DNA sequence that makes up a gene, such that the sequence differs from what is found in most people. Mutations range in size; they can affect anywhere from a single DNA building block (base pair) to a large segment of a chromosome that includes multiple genes.
Gene mutations can be classified in two major ways:
Hereditary mutations are inherited from a parent and are present throughout a person’s life in virtually every cell in the body. These mutations are also called germline mutations because they are present in the parent’s egg or sperm cells, which are also called germ cells. When an egg and a sperm cell unite, the resulting fertilized egg cell receives DNA from both parents. If this DNA has a mutation, the child that grows from the fertilized egg will have the mutation in each of his or her cells.
Acquired (or somatic) mutations occur at some time during a person’s life and are present only in certain cells, not in every cell in the body. These changes can be caused by environmental factors such as ultraviolet radiation from the sun, or can occur if a mistake is made as DNA copies itself during cell division. Acquired mutations in somatic cells (cells other than sperm and egg cells) cannot be passed on to the next generation.
Genetic changes that are described as de novo (new) mutations can be either hereditary or somatic. In some cases, the mutation occurs in a person’s egg or sperm cell but is not present in any of the person’s other cells. In other cases, the mutation occurs in the fertilized egg shortly after the egg and sperm cells unite. (It is often impossible to tell exactly when a de novo mutation happened.) As the fertilized egg divides, each resulting cell in the growing embryo will have the mutation. De novo mutations may explain genetic disorders in which an affected child has a mutation in every cell in the body but the parents do not, and there is no family history of the disorder.
Somatic mutations that happen in a single cell early in embryonic development can lead to a situation called mosaicism. These genetic changes are not present in a parent’s egg or sperm cells, or in the fertilized egg, but happen a bit later when the embryo includes several cells. As all the cells divide during growth and development, cells that arise from the cell with the altered gene will have the mutation, while other cells will not. Depending on the mutation and how many cells are affected, mosaicism may or may not cause health problems.
Most disease-causing gene mutations are uncommon in the general population. However, other genetic changes occur more frequently. Genetic alterations that occur in more than 1 percent of the population are called polymorphisms. They are common enough to be considered a normal variation in the DNA. Polymorphisms are responsible for many of the normal differences between people such as eye color, hair color, and blood type. Although many polymorphisms have no negative effects on a person’s health, some of these variations may influence the risk of developing certain disorders."
The greatest proof of evolution is the myriad of useless features in your human anatomy. For example, human fetuses have tails for the first 8 weeks of their development, before they recede. In addition, you have bones in your wrist that were originally used to support primates walking on four limbs.
You need to get up to speed on the latest science regarding anatomy and DNA. It's intellectual laziness to say "we don't know what this organ does, so it must be leftover junk from evolution and therefore we know all we need to know about it and don't need to study it any more". Well, to the chagrin of short-circuited talking heads like yourself, some researchers continue to ask questions about so called "junk" DNA and organs, and they find answers. Research is indicating that all the so called "junk" DNA is used in maintaining chemical levels in the cell, or something like that, but you can easily find the articles relating to the well known studies which are not biased as evolutionary or Creation based but are purely scientific. Your argument about junk organs and junk DNA has pretty much gone the way of belief in flat Earth.
Your cartoon animation videos are not proof of evolution, it's not science, it's cartoons and it's a joke. Nothing you have presented is proof of evolution, it's just things you choose to believe are signs of evolution. The only way you can show fluidity in changes you think happened by evolutionary process is by making cartoons depicting your belief. Believing that intelligence comes from matter is goofy, believing that life comes from non-living matter is goofy. It is not science, it's a waste of time. There is no real evidence of evolution. Don't ask me to believe it happened. If you want to believe it, go ahead, but I think it's just plain dumb.
Actually there are quite a few people who agree with that theory.
Not me, mind you. But it's called "Theistic Evolution." They think that Evolution is true as the vast majority of educated people know it is, but rather than being driven by blind genetic alterations and Selective Inheritance, that God engineers the whole thing. That He is just using the mechanics of Evolution like, say, a mechanic would use tools and an instruction book to build a car, instead of the mechanic just waving a wand for seven days and saying "poof" and the car being magically created.
Yeah, there are some highly edabucated people who claim to be Christians yet reject the Bible in favor of belief in evolution. I have serious doubts that those people are really Christians, God's children, born of God's Spirit. There is more than enough scientific evidence to reject belief in evolution or the big bang, and such belief is contradictory to the words of Jesus Christ and the Bible.
I think Hugh Ross is the best known "theistic evolutionist", claiming to be a Christian. I guess I'll find out if he really is a Christian after I'm in Heaven....then I'll see where he really stands.
It is not likely and is not usual - as a matter of fact it is HIGHLY unlikely and EXTREMELY unusual
Here is part of the historical event of Steven's Martyrdom
Notice his stoners coats were laid at Saul's feet.
Saul after murdering Christiand, has an unusual transformation and personally experienced an encounter with the Risen Jesus.
Saul goes from killing them to the greatest winner of souls. And by those actions fullfills PROPHESY!
And his dramatic conversion pushes the gospel out from his own countrymen to Gentiles, (other Nation other than Israel) and is well know even from those he was in league with while severely persecuting Christians.
Matt 24
14“This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 11
10 "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, who shall stand as a banner to the people; for the Gentiles shall seek Him, and His resting place shall be glorious."
scientist's have used carbon dating to predict how old the earth and fossils but it is really an unreliable source. they have found a mammoth and the torso was like 17000 years old as the leg was 10,000 years old. 1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Isn't it crazy how the bible predicts so many things with how old it is?
Atheists are just like super religious people. Unless someone else's beliefs effect you, why should you care about them? Let people believe what they want. Unless, you're looking for ways to attack their religion when they attack your non-belief.
Atheist are super religious people, they believe they have the right to exist outside of Hell and are working hard to keep that imaginary right by practicing a religion of faking it. There are many super religious people in many religions doing the same thing atheists are doing in their religion, trying to maintain belief in their right to exist outside of Hell.
Believing there is no Hell won't keep you out of it. If you think it will, then keep on believing it and see if you don't get the evidence you say is not there. Will you believe Hell is real when you wake up in the fire and can't get out?
Do I have to hit you over the head with a rock to prove your head is harder than a rock? How will you have evidence that the rock in my hand is not paper and soft if I don't hit you over the head with it? You don't have to believe the rock is hard, and I don't have to believe your head is harder than the rock, do I?
If you are not too drunk so you can't think of anything but stupid pervert barroom jokes, if I have something in my hand that looks like a rock, you really don't know if it is or not except my my word. It could be fake.
When you ask for proof that Hell is real, it's the same as asking me to prove the rock in my hand is hard. If you won't believe me, I can show you by hitting you over the head with it and you will know. If you won't believe Hell is real, and you defy God to prove it to you, He'll leave you in the fire. You see, the point is, you are stupid. That's why you tell stupid wino pervert jokes.
If the thing is in my hand and you cant' touch it or examine it and I tell you it's hard, you just have to believe me. If you won't believe my word, maybe you will believe if I hit you over the head with it, of course only a tap so you know it's hard but don't really get hurt, I don't want you to get hurt.
God is trying to tell you that you need to be reconciled to Him, and He made the way by paying your price with His own blood so your sins can be covered by Him and He does not have to leave you in Hell. If you won't believe on what He did for you, you leave Him no choice but to leave you dying forever in your sin, and you will wake up in Hell. God is not going to argue with you forever like it seems you want to argue forever trying to justify yourself with no covering for your sins.
Atheist do not think. They have made a decision which requires no thought. It's a mental block, once a person has decided to believe there is no God, there is nothing to think about any more and the only hope they have is to avoid suffering in death.
I care about them so I'm trying to make them think.
Does it do any good to be ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth. Life means God is good, the truth is simple. You try to complicate reality because you want to keep God out of your life, you want to explore the pleasures of sin, stroking your own ego telling yourself how smart you are for asking questions and never getting the answer.
You're asking the wrong questions and getting useless answers that can never satisfy you. When you know the love of God, there is no end to knowing more of it, no end to growing in grace and knowledge of Him......growing in the basis of truth, the truth will make you free. The way you are talking about seeking answers is like nailing one foot to the ground and running around in circles getting nowhere.
believing there is no evidence of the existence of Hell is the same as believing you have the right to live outside of Hell. You will find out that Hell is real if you believe it or not. You're in complete denial of the condemnation you are under, and denying it won't get you out of it.
I know full well I have the right to exist outside of Hell since there is no Hell.
So it's like saying I have the right to exist outside of Neverland.
Or Narnia.
Or Oz.
Or Heaven.
Or Candy Mountain
Or Valhalla
Or Nirvana
Or Sheol
Or Atlantis
See? None of those place exist, except in the fanciful and often delusional homo sapien mind. So of course we have the right to exist outside of them. In fact, we have NO CHOICE BUT TO EXIST OUTSIDE OF THEM SINCE THEY ARE NOT REAL.
Who cares if I do or do not have the right to exist outside of Neverland, Narnia, or Candy Mountain, or Nirvana, or Sheol, or Atlantis. If I do not have the right to exist outside of any of those places, then I must go there to exist. As long as those places are not fire where people fry like eternal smoky links, I'm ok with the possibility that it is true I do not have the right to exist outside of any of those places.
The only place you really care about negating is Hell. Eternal damnation does not compare to anything you can imagine. The only place you care about having the right to exist outside of is Hell. If you can imagine Hell, it is the only place you do not want to be forced to exist. All the other places you have named, you could live with. Hell you cannot live with. That's why it's the only place you are really fighting against, and you cannot prove you have the right to exist outside of Hell because your are a sinner and dying forever. Hell is your abode forever if you don't get saved from it. If you don't believe it and think it cannot be possible, why waste time arguing against it?
You, nor I, nor anybody else has the right to exist on Earth. The proof of this fact is that we are dying, our time is a privilege and not a right. If we have the right to be here, then we cannot die and we are obviously stuck in dying bodies, it's in our DNA!!!! Death is in the DNA, our DNA is corrupt and doomed to fail.
So where do you have the right to exist? nowhere?
You might say you came from nowhere so you have the right to exist nowhere in death....but that would be not existing, denying reality of your existence. You are something, you cannot be nothing. God made you to be something and you don't have any choice in being SlapShot. You can't get out of it.
You are not your body, you are not your brain, you are you with or without your current body. You can't get out of it. You owe God for your existence, and you will exist somewhere forever, in dying or in living...dying in Hell, or living in Heaven.......
This idea of saying you know full well you have the right to exist outside of Hell because you believe Hell is imaginary is not a solid argument. If you want to make an argument claiming to be right, it has to be solid and hold up in face of reality.
I owe my life to Evolution, as depicted in that awesome video I shared last night.
And Saint...I do not think life is meaningless. I love life and am in awe of nature and science and the wonders of the world and the simple joys we all have. Like love and family and friends and learning and travelling. Music, sex, beauty, art. Life is precious and shirt and see need to enjoy it to the fullest.
I also think it is far too precious and fun and short to squander it by a name believe sky gods who have never done a thing for me and don't even have the sack to show themselves or alleviate suffering. What sort of a god us that? Either lame or uncaring.
So I reckon it falls to us in science to alleviate suffering. Which is fine. And we do it and don't even demand your worship.
Ok, so tell me the meaning of life in a way that I can understand logically. What does life mean? If life emerged out of non-life, doesn't that mean life is equal to non-life and is meaningless?
What happens when you can no longer enjoy life? What happens when there is no pleasure in living? Does that change the meaning of life? Why?
You owe your life to evolution? So evolution is a person you are indebted to? You owe your life to evolution, so evolution is your master? Your master is mindless, so how can it give meaning to life?
To accuse God of not caring is to deny your own value, and of course that is what evolution is all about, denying objective value, objective meaning, objective morals, objective truth.
So you think life is precious. Good for you. As an evolutionist, you would have to believe life is only as precious as you feel it is, and who cares if you encourage promiscuity and STD's are spread by it and people feel like killing themselves because they have devalued their body to give it away in cheap sex. Another evolutionist may feel life is terrible so he wants to kill everybody, and in evolutionary believe you really can't say he is wrong. Sure, we make laws against such behavior, but that it just man's law, we could change it to say it's ok to kill all Jews and Christians, and justify it as survival of the fittest.
God has a plan and a purpose, and just because you feel he's not serving you well enough does not mean He does not care. God does relieve suffering, and all who trust Him will be forever free of pain and suffering. You are not trusting Him, you are defying Him, so you wont' be free....your chained in your sin, chains anchored in Hell. Jesus suffered for you, He is God, how can you say He does not care when He suffered and died for you? You are spitting in His face, and then you think He is not fair to let you suffer and die alone?
Your atheistic mantra that is supposed to be so irrefutable is just plain closed minded ignorance, setting yourself up in pride as if you are better than God, accusing Him of not being as good of a god as you think you are as you think you know better how to handle things than God does. You're fooling yourself, you can't handle death, God can. He is stronger, smarter, better than you or me.......infinitely so.
You really are asking for God to strike you dead, you know it? The way you are acting, you are making out like that is the only way He can show he cares about what you say. I hope you live a good long life, but even if you do and have a relatively easy and peaceful demise, it's still God's execution of your death sentence, and you really are asking for it. Your making a mistake to think you get out of responsibility for your actions, words, and imaginations in death. You don't get out, you owe God for your time and He will require it of you.
God Himself became a man and paid your price, and you say He does not care to show Himself? It's you who is trying to not show yourself to God, because you think you can hide from Him by putting up a wall in your mind to keep Him out, and it's only keeping you in dying, in the dark.
I don't know, I've said this a hundred times and you keep on doing nothing but insulting God. If you don't care what He did for you, and you just want to die by yourself, fine.
Im sorry man but the whole question or topic is set up wrong. Me being an atheist means that i dont belive in gods. Since im not claiming anything therea nothing to be right about. Now atheists can have certain positions about certain topics that we can or cant prove right, however not all atheista would agree with some of mine positions for example. So it would be generalisation and that is not a good claim to make.
I don't believe in gods either. You are your own little god, a weak little god who can't get yourself out of dying and can't get anybody else out. God can get you out, but you are trying to block Him out and all you are doing is sealing your own tomb and you will wake up in Hell dying forever, paying for your sins if you will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
who does believe in gods? God is not a god, He is God who created all things, He is the only One you want to get rid of, gods are irrelevant to your predicament.
Neither atheists or religious fanatics are right. Both of what you say cannot be proven cause there is never going to be any legit proof, no matter what you believe about entities.
Wrongo, kiddo, there is legitimate proof of the deity of Christ, the Bible being His word, and the reality of Hell. You probably won't believe any of it until you find yourself unable to get out of the fire of Hell. You will get proof. You probably will not accept the truth by me telling you about it, but that won't keep you from getting proof.
The Bible is the collective "word" many chiseled stone tablets, Papyrus scrolls and passed down stories most of which are by "unknown authors", cobbled together by Constantine and a bunch of his fanatical brethren! THERE IS NO PROOF that one or the other of these "versions" of "Gods word" is valid! Constantine says he saw an [illusion] in the sky that allowed him to win a battle and decided to gather up what he could find of this "word" and create a story of what HE thought was a "god". (He may have been smoking something, we don't know!)
This is "legitimate proof"??? IT IS HEARSAY! We should swear on the Constitution in court and taking public office, (as Teddy Roosevelt did) NOT on hearsay!
The Bible is the word of God. You will be judged by God in person as the Lord Jesus Christ according to His word. God keeps His word. That's why you are a dead man walking as a sinner. God promises reconciliation between Him and you if you will repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. If you won't, you will remain in condemnation on death row awaiting execution until your time is no longer counted down to zero in death, and zero is all you have good in the fire of Hell.
Science, according to this atheist, is the only tool in which we can use to discover all the truths of reality. If such were the case we would need to disband philosophy, art, religion, language and all other non-scientific fields of knowledge. Such is called scientism – the view that science can explain all aspects of reality. As the atheist scientist Peter Atkins says in a debate with Christian philosopher William Lane Craig that “…science is omnipotent.” ..... However, the belief that science can explain everything is self-refuting as science has the inability to explain moral/ethical truths (you can’t scientifically determine if murdering someone is good or evil, but you can perform an autopsy to determine the cause of death), logical truths, mathematical truths, aesthetic truths, metaphysical truths (that other minds exists other than my own, that the external world is real), natural law (science only describes them, but presupposes their existence), science itself (due to the fact science is full of unprovable assumptions), the laws of logic, and it also cannot rule out the existence of God since God would have created the natural uniformity of which science explains. For these reasons William Craig comments:“ ..... scientism is too restrictive a theory of knowledge. It would, if adopted, compel us to abandon wide swaths of what most of us take to be fields of human knowledge.” ..... I highly recommend all readers to view this three minute clip on how William Craig answers this very objection in his debate against Atkins ...... JAMES BISHOP'S THEOLOGY & APOLOGETICS
"If such were the case we would have to disband philosophy, art, religion...etc." No! Those are not "truths"! They do not require "truth", they require emotion and acceptance, truth is unnecessary.
no good argument to prove God exists ?? ..........
You may ask, what do computers have to do with DNA and all those endless arguments about intelligent design? Actually, a lot .... Just like all those 1’s and 0’s that make our modern world go ‘round, DNA is also a digital communication system. All the same formulas and communication theory that created our modern digital age apply to DNA too. In fact many methods that are commonplace in the information technology field have been adapted and applied to genetics research and the Human Genome Project .... Now, discover what our knowledge of modern communication systems now tells us about the Origins Debate .... Listen to “If you can read this, I can prove God exists” by Perry Marshall ............... continue
As scientists explore a new universe—the universe inside the cell—they are making startling discoveries of information systems more complex than anything ever devised by humanity's best minds. How did they get there, and what does it mean for the theory of evolution? ............ continue
That article was written by somebody from Unity Church!
Hardly a scientific journal.
Listen..if one of us scientists tried to put THAT in a peer-reviewed journal, all that shit about s sky god?....Well, we would be laughed out of the community. In fact such an article would never get published like that in a science journal. Never.
We can fully explain how DNA and mitochondria and ribosomes and telomeres and rNA and genomes work.
I have debated you over and over and it was YOU who started calling ME names ... like LIAR!, HATER! DEVIL!, etc. YOU, of all people shouldn't be talking about good manners! I guess you don't know what you are saying much of the time.
Ok, so you really believe the lies you want me to believe, and you hate God like a devil, is that better? It is not bad manners to tell the truth. People say all kinds of baseless things against me here, when I call you a name it is appropriate according to your own words. I'm addressing your attitude toward God and His people...it's not good. The names I have called you are appropriate and with purpose, hoping you will see you are in a losing battle fighting against God and that you will surrender, admit you have broken God's law and deserve His punishment, believe He paid your price as the Son of God and ask God in the name of the risen Savior, Jesus Christ, to save you from Hell and receive Him as your Savior before your dying is forever in Hell.
You'll just have to pardon me for calling you names. Atheists and evolutionist say the nastiest baseless off the wall things against Christians, they should be able to take it when they are told the truth about their sin.
I have NEVER said a nasty, baseless thing against a Christian. Disagreeing with their philosophy is no more nasty and baseless then they disagreeing with mine! I have always said, believe what you want to, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. I simply can't "pardon you" for saying I have no right to exist ... or believe what I see as truth.
For the umpteenth time, I DO NOT HATE GOD! I believe there is nothing there TO hate. I am NOT a "devil" because I feel the same about that entity. I DO believe "hate" exists and I try to NOT let THAT entity enter MY mind. I'm sorry YOU hate ME, but, the problem is that religion causes us to hate others we wouldn't normally hate. I'm sure if you knew me you wouldn't hate me, nobody does or has (that I ever knew of in 79 years)... that is, if we don't talk religion, and I don't, normally. But when somebody says "baseless things about me" I will let them know how I feel.
I admit I have broken YOUR god's law a time or two ... many more than that if I am right about your thoughts of "sinning" with women....but that is just one of the things I don't consider sinning. Love makes the world a better place, I like (d) to spread it around. I would ALWAYS commit THAT "sin". Try it ... spreading the love, I mean. It's so much nicer than spreading hellfire and damnation.
You hate God, you think you have murdered Him in your mind so He can't hold you in contempt for breaking His law. You are in contempt, condemned, being executed and soon to wake up in Hell if you will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
No. I DO NOT "hate God". That would be like saying I "hate" Superman, or even Wonder Woman (always liked her!) No, I just don't see the proof that S/HE/IT exists, and I can't hate anything that doesn't exist. Besides, there are FEW things in this world I hate, apparently unlike yourself. Millions don't believe as YOU do, and you seem to hate every one that does not! YOU "scare the hell out of ME", so I have been exorcised! Thank you for that.
I am not an atheist. However, atheists can and (most) do have good manners. Your claim is based on experience with "the obnoxious atheists here." However, if I base my claim on the "obnoxious christians," or the "obnoxious muslims," or the "obnoxious hindus," or the "obnoxious jews," I can say that all are rude and have bad manners.
They don't have bad manners by default. The people you meet (who may coincidentally have good or bad manners) do not represent their entire belief system.
Are you kidding me? I guess you have not seen Dawkins videos. The guy is a raving madman, void of manners when he starts going off insulting God, the Bible, and Christians. He has all the manners of the people who crucified Jesus Christ.
I find your point completely void of usefulness. You have to take a side of right or wrong, and if you try to play the middle like you are doing, you are wrong.
If the only argument an atheist can make as proof of being right is that they believe in evolution, they have not proven anything. In fact, any argument an atheist makes trying to support it's belief that there is no God is a foolish argument.....
So far, belief in evilootion is the only reason I have seen as a reason why atheists think they are right. That explains nothing.
