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Great background checking?

WTF?

It's all wrong. LOL.

I was not even born in the 70s. Nor was I in Denmark.

Artrag gets an awful lot of shit wrong. Daily. Most of it stemming from his wrongful suspicions and accusation of other members and their true IDs.

See..liars think ALL of us lie.

LOL

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and when are ya gonna tell us where your country IS since I busted you on not being in North Korea?

LOL

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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You're making me too old, amigo!

I wasn't even born until 1980.

And I was not ever in Denmark as a minor.

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I hate to have to admit it, but burning the American flag in a sort of public demonstration or protest, so long as said demo is done peaceably and orderly, infringing on no laws or safety, IS a tenet of our Freedom of Speech. That is, our 1st Amendment Rights.

Having said that, I also admit that in my past on the two occasions I actually witnessed somebody doing this, I felt like kicking the living shit out of them. And it took every fiber of my being to restrain myself from doing so.

The first time I saw somebody burn the flag was when I was in college. Undergrad school at the U of M. Playing hockey. We were in DC in the off-season (Springtime) for a hockey Instructional Camp conducted by some coaches on the US National Team.

Me and three teammates were seeing the sights of DC, after practice, and were near the reflecting pond that's adjacent to the Washington Monument. A group of a dozen or so demonstrators burned a flag in protest of our "non-involvement" in knocking out some African warlords who were allegedly denying the peoples over there their allotted UN food/material aids.

So, yeah, all the protesters were black. African blacks.

We approached these guys and my teammate immediately grabbed the nigger holding the flag by the neck and threw him into a concrete statue. LOL Then he began to stomp out the fire on the flag. I was actually going to join in on the other fuckwads, but they were backing off. And then I saw some DC cops heading over our way so I called my guys off and we jogged out of there.

So, yeah, even though the majority of the assholes who burn American flags in public deserve to have their heads put through a wall, to pass legislation denying this act is to begin upon a slippery slope. After all: first the Government denies burning the flag, and then what might be next? Banning ANY sort of public dissent? See, this is not a good path to embark upon.

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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The pasted quote was indeed from our Declaration of Independence.

And no, technically, that document is not one of Laws that are necessarily legislated and enforced in America today.

But the debate topic was regarding whether or not any sort of universal declaration of human rights has ever been written and accepted by all.

Thus, the first thing that came to my mind, as well as the best example of this that I could think of was the DOI.

Hope this helps.

Thanks!

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Those cartoons were mundane and juvenile and their type can be found all over the USA. In both print and on the internet.

And so they don't offend me at all.

What does offend me is when literal libtard twats like you who don't even fucking live here tell me my country does not have freedom of speech. This is so wrong as to be laughable. A quick Google search will show you all the irreverent and even obscene uncensored material in this country that you want. What the fuck do you think the Internet is? If we didn't have freedom of speech we would have no internet. Like North Korea.

We fucking invented it. And as a veteran I take further issue with you denying we have it when many veterans have died defending it. And also died bailing your frog rifle dropping asses out of the fire more than once.

So...a little respect would be nice.

Hey, here's an ad I saw the other day in a gun magazine.......

For sale, French WWII rifle. Excellent condition. Never fired. Dropped once.

LOL

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Where can you find 60,100,000 French jokes?

In France.

How do you kill a Frenchman?

Slam the toilet lid on his head while he's getting a drink.

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Hmmm....I forget, so please remind me:

What Party was in Office in the 1960's when LBJ instituted his "Great Society" Legislation that began the end of segregation? Thus, paving the road to ensure that Blacks were not to be oppressed or judged solely upon the color of their skin?

Which Party has been in Office for the past eight years, during which time our society has a whole has made bigger and more drastic strides than ever before in implementing Political Correctness and tolerance and the Rights of minorities as well as those of aberrant gender and sexual preferences?

What Party was JFK with?

What Party was Bush the Younger with, when he got over 6000 young Americans killed in an ill-waged misbegotten war? And when he said judged all those not in favor of this war as "being against us if you're not with us?"

Which Party was FDR with? And which Party implemented the New Deal, that got us out of a Depression? And though non-judgmental legislation, allowed many discriminated against Americans to get back to work?

My impression of you reading this post.........

"Ouch."

LOL

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Our U.S. Constitution tells you all you need to know on this issue.........

US Declaration

We hold these truths to be self-evident:

That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

You're Welcome!

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How do you know that there were any vacancies, if any, in the 144,000 class if Jesus offered this to first century Christians? How can the organization know the exact number of vacancies today without any records from the first century?

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Hmm...my service on this site is lickety-split fast.

Must be your computer.

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Uhh..it's a bit more than a rumor.

It's substantiated fact.

From an online article, with a personal testimony from a Danish teen.........

The recent New York Times article “Sex in a Teenager’s Room?” has generated a lot of conversation, including interesting articles in Slate and the Huffington Post. But for me, the most spirited debate has been taking place in private Facebook groups consisting of Danish women living in America. I’m not Danish, but I had the good fortune to come of age sexually while living in Denmark as a teenager. I wish everyone could be so lucky.

Back in the 1970s, long before it was popular to take a “gap year” between high school and college, I did so by embarking on a high school exchange student experience after I graduated, at the age of 17. The American Field Service program randomly sent me to Denmark.

In Denmark, it is common for teenage couples to spend the night together in each other’s homes. (As in the Netherlands, as detailed in a book by Amy Schalet, “Not Under My Roof: Parents, Teens and the Culture of Sex”). This was certainly not how I’d grown up. Though my parents were self-styled liberals, I lost my virginity in a typically American way: in the back seat of my high school crush’s car, parked in the high school parking lot during a school dance. I remember asking my parents, when I was about 10, where babies came from, and my parents fumbled through a faux-jokey response.

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Questions that Jehovah's Witnesses do not like to be asked.

If the organization did not actually prophesy the end in 1925 and 1975, then how come so many Witnesses left the faith immediately afterwards? ("They lost roughly three-quarters of the movement between 1925 and 1928, then suffered huge losses after 1975, when the end didn't come as they had implied over and over again," said Jim Penton, an ex-Witness who writes entries on Jehovah's Witnesses for the Encyclopedia Americana.)

If the Watchtower organization rejects others calling them "inspired" yet the Watchtower organization does call themselves "God's Spirit-directed Prophet" what is the difference? Is there such a thing as an "uninspired prophet"? See Organization claims inspiration

Has the Society ever taught anything scripturally incorrect? See Prophecy Blunders of the Organization

Might the Society be teaching anything scripturally incorrect now?

Since the Organization has received "new light" regarding the 1914 generation, and completely changed their view on this, does this mean that all the former Jehovah's witnesses who were disfellowshipped years ago for the same view the organization is now teaching will automatically be accepted into fellowship again? Were these Ex-Jw's in fact disfellowshipped for truth and knew things that the governing body did not? See Jw's were disfellowshipped for rejecting generation doctrine

Can Jehovah's Witnesses hold and discuss openly with other Jehovah's Witnesses opinions that differ from orthodox Watch Tower doctrine?

Can individuals read & understand the Bible alone, or do they need an organization and it's publications to do so? Click here find the answer!

How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled? What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to "what the organization tells him" about December 25 being the date of Jesus' birthday and a Jw' appealing to "what the organization tells him" about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935?

How do you know that there were any vacancies, if any, in the 144,000 class if Jesus offered this to first century Christians? How can the organization know the exact number of vacancies today without any records from the first century?

Why are you called, "Jehovah's Witnesses" and not "Christians"? Since Jehovah's Witnesses appeal to Isa 43:12; 44:8 for scriptural support that they should be called, "Jehovah's Witnesses" then what was the "new name" prophesied in Isa 62:2? Can't be "Jehovah's Witnesses", for God already used it 20 chapters earlier. Could the new name be "Christian" after our savior "Christ"?

Why would the name God gave to His people not be "Christians" since Acts 11:26 says, "The disciples were first called Christians"

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Why do JW's feel as though they know more about God and his intent and desires than anybody else? What makes them think they have an inside track in Theodicy? Do you even know what that word means without looking it up?

Where does there arrogance and smugness come from? If not from downright egomaniacal delusion? Especially when even Jesus himself said that nobody knows details of God? Such as the hour and time he will come? Why do JW's brazenly break so many of jesus' teachings? Why do they deny the gospels?

Like denying the cross, and calling it a pike?

Also....exactly how fucking many psychotropic meds are you on?

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Yeah, right. Like, I hear in those liberal countries like yours and Sweden and Norway and Iceland and France that a girl who still has her cherry at age 15 is often teased by her peers for being an old maid.

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They do better at having those experimental girl- on- girl, touchy feely romps under the sheets after a few too many many wine coolers. But that's about the only thing they get out of attending an all girl school.

And hell, they can do the bi-curious itch scratch at a coed college just fine anyway. Most women do have their first g on g there. But those fancy Eastern girl colleges like Smith and Vassar and Bryn Mawr are so rampant with dyking that some straight and non bi-curious coeds hesitate to go there, afraid they might one night get slipped a roofie and then find themselves in a game of Ant Hill with a pack of naked bull dykes.

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Those cartoons were mundane and juvenile and their type can be found all over the USA. In both print and on the internet.

And so they don't offend me at all.

What does offend me is when literal libtard twats like you who don't even fucking live here tell me my country does not have freedom of speech. This is so wrong as to be laughable. A quick Google search will show you all the irreverent and even obscene uncensored material in this country that you want. What the fuck do you think the Internet is? If we didn't have freedom of speech we would have no internet. Like North Korea.

We fucking invented it. And as a veteran I take further issue with you denying we have it when many veterans have died defending it. And also died bailing your frog rifle dropping asses out of the fire more than once.

So...a little respect would be nice.

Hey, here's an ad I saw the other day in a gun magazine.......

For sale, French WWII rifle. Excellent condition. Never fired. Dropped once.

LOL

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Where can you find 60,100,000 French jokes?

In France.

How do you kill a Frenchman?

Slam the toilet lid on his head while he's getting a drink.

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If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

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If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

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But he is not in North Korea. It is impossible.

No citizenry there has access to the Internet o which CreateDebate resides. The available servers in North Korea are all internal, and heavily sensored. It's an Intra net. Called the Kwangymon. My lab instructor helped design it, and just returned from Korea a couple weeks ago. Told me all about it.

So why pay any attention to a liar? He is useless.

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Of course a faggot like you would say that.

When are you gonna admit I busted you and you don't live in North Korea?

Why do you lie so much?

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But how can you as a raving and zealous fundamentalist Christian, who claims their biblecis the inerrant word of God, not support its stance on homosexuality?

That stance being, of course, that all of them are unforgivable sinners who deserve to burn in hell? If you claim the gays are entitled to be themselves you are contradicting your holy book mandate. Also you are going being insubordinate to your God's orders.

Making you a sinner. A heretic.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot preach your silly Bible and say that everything in it is irrefutable, and then say that some of its laws should not be followed.

To do this casts questions on all of its rules and laws.

You know, like us rational atheists do!

LOL

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When are you gonna admit I busted you as a liar?

You're not in North Korea like you said.

So why should we believe anything you say?

It's all total pure unadulterated bullshit.

Pure fiction.

We all know it.

You have no friends here, gook boy.

Now....bugger off.

LOL

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Well, yeah... kNHaven is in a class by herself. Easily the most "spun" CD member. Too far gone to debate with. Would not last one day on any other debate or open forum site, before getting banned for either trolling or thread hijacking.

I don't really consider her a debater. Just the resident psycho. But Sitar tries to mix it up and talk politics and social issues in which she clearly has zero experience. I am thinking she does not live in the real world. She cannot possibly be employed or self supporting, could she?

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Typical post from the resident confused wannabe feminist twit.

You criticize an entire network just because their political zeitgeist differs from yours. I could make a debate calling MSNBC noise too. But I know that would be unfair and a straw man argument. So I don't. That's what happens when you are in science. You learn the empirical method and the objectivity of unbiased observation.

You need to try it some time. But first you need a class in political science 101. When you get hold enough.

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Who cares about the rumba? It's not sexy.

Spanish is spoken too rapid fire and staccato to be considered sexy. I often find it annoying.

French and Italian are both far sexier. Hell, so is English with a British accent.

I have a female coworker who speaks Afrikaans. She also makes that sound sexy. It's like a cross between French and German.

The least sexy languages are the gook dialects like Chinese and Vietnamese. Arabic is pretty bad too on the sexy meter.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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No.......

You're a confused little girl who knows shit bout politics.

You cannot be anti choice and call youself a liberal. You also cannot be a feminist and be anti choice.

And a fetus or an embryo is not a baby. And it IS part of the mother. Ever hear of the umbilical cord? Ever heard of intra uterine? The embryo or fetus is technically and biologically closer to a parasite than a human being. Humans do not live inside others. Parasites do. Embyos do.

Human beings have brains that weigh three pounds. Fetuses have proto brains the size of a walnut, and that's in the third trimester!

You're in overvyour head here, little girl. Better quit while you're behind.

LOL

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Many mental health professionals see religious fervor as madness!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religionandschizophrenia

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The God of the old testament certainly was a megalomaniac. Worse, even.

He was a petty, cruel, murderous, jealous, baby killing, loathsome, capricious, jealous douche nozzle.

On a good day.

LOL

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Guess you didn't see my rant on Muslims with that twit Sitara?

Again....the skill with which you seem NOT to pay attention to my posts continues to amaze me. I have criticized Islam many times. Ask anybody.

Or...this one, from which I will now paste the following. It's from my post on the debate: "Is there any difference between God and Allah?"

Nope.

Not one iota of difference.

Why?

Because.......

They're both nothing more than imaginary BFFs invented by two different peoples. Both of whom were tired of getting their collective asses handed to them thru wars and oppressions and enslavements.

So what to do? Oh my!!!

I got it!

Invent a badass sky God that is better and stronger than yours!!

Like little kids.....

Nya nya nya...my God is better than yours is!!!

Pretty fucking hilarious if you ask me.

The history of mankind is rife with mythology and superstition.

All of it salve for the bedraggled and perplexed homo sapien mind.

God's?

Just two examples of that dynamic.

Thanks!!

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Well then, congrats!!

You have achieved your goal!

From all appearances...you are indeed crazy!

LOL

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http://www.alternet.org/belief/5-reasons-suspect-jesus-never-existed

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Abortion should be allowed under ANY circumstance the mother wishes. And that includes 3rd trimester.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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No you don't.

Since you are anti-choice, you are against equal rights for women who want to have an abortion.

Again....you know not what you are, politically.

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India was the Jewel in the Crown.

Tis a land of baffling paradoxes.

A land of wisdom.

And ignorance.

Of beauty.

And horror.

A mystical land!

A strange and perplexing land.

You either love itvor hate it, if you go there.

In that aspect, it's like Africa.

I will discuss India with you anytime.

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Nope.

Not one iota of difference.

Why?

Because.......

They're both nothing more than imaginary BFFs invented by two different peoples. Both of whom were tired of getting their collective asses handed to them thru wars and oppressions and enslavements.

So what to do? Oh my!!!

I got it!

Invent a badass sky God that is better and stronger than yours!!

Like little kids.....

Nya nya nya...my God is better than yours is!!!

Pretty fucking hilarious if you ask me.

The history of mankind is rife with mythology and superstition.

All of it salve for the bedraggled and perplexed homo sapien mind.

God's?

Just two examples of that dynamic.

Thanks!!

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I'm an ex hockey player and consider myself as hetero and macho as they come.

Several years ago when I was playing for UM I had a black eye from a high stick in a game against Minnesota. After the game, the next day, I had a date. A first date. Blind date with a woman my sister assured me was super hot.

So, wanting to look my best, my sis talked me into letting her apply make up to my black and purple cheekbone and eye. She did a great job and my date never noticed.

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None of them have come true.

You are insane.

You JW's are spooky people.

BTW........

your bio has a quote from you that says this........

"Common Sense is a Value"

Which baffles me, since you with your deluded and quasi-psychotic beliefs are the person on this entire site who is MOST bereft of common sense.

So....what the fuck is up with that?

LOL

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Yep. We did end up killing more of them than they did us.

They fucked up, amigo.

They started it. We finished it.

They rattled the Big Dog's cage and got bit.

LOL

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

Yawn.........

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

These sort of juvenile rants make me so sleepy. They are mundane and tiresome.

Did I say Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

Need to get a cup of coffee.....

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You still here, douche nozzle?

Thought you were gonna do us all a favor and split?

Fuck.

Oh....GoCart is correct, BTW. If you look at the entire political spectrum from right to left, Democrats and Republicans ARE in the middle, to the immediate left and right, respectively, of the center point.

See.......Nationalism or a Totalitarian Fascist regimeceould be extreme Right, along with an Iran style Theocracy, while communism and Socialism would sit on the far left. And in truth, Obama never really got close to Socialism in its purest sense.

Some will tell you that Anarchism is at the far left of the spectrum, but since that term denotes a total eradication of ANY form of government, this in not accurate.

Hope this helps. Maybe you should take a Poli Sci class?

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I think you meant to ask us if God is a megalomaniac.

What is a melanomaniac? Somebody who is obsessed with tanning? LOL.

The God of the old testament certainly was a megalomaniac. Worse, even.

He was a petty, cruel, murderous, jealous, baby killing, loathsome, capricious, jealous douche nozzle.

On a good day.

LOL

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I would not go so far as to call him good, but he killed far less than Yahweh did.

I also think his ideas on eugenics had some merit. I love the idea of a perfect master race. I love it more everyday as I witness the Browning of America.

Germany under Hitler would have never got browned. Nor would it have endured the burdens our minorities put on us in America. Violence, ghettos, muders, inflated welfare roles, etc.

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Not in my country they shouldn't, you stupid little sniveling twat.

Remind me, retard....who was that who attacked us and killed thousands on 9/11?

Who was it that tried to kill me and my brothers over in Tikrit?

I sure am glad I got to kill me some ragheads. Hope I get another chance some day. I almost hope those camel tickets DO protest when they have to get banned so my Army Reserve unitvwill be activated and we can kill some more!

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I am indeed smarter than your God.

Any day of the week.

And twice on Sunday.

Yahweh?

What a douche.

And, I dunno, man, but so far as being stupid?

I gotta go with a dude who makes an offensive and juvenile and groundless debate. And then bans himself from it.

Wow.

Just.......plain. Old fashioned.....wow.

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How can you take away something that doesn't exist?

Can you take away Unicorns?

Or Astrology?

Or psychokinesis?

Or elves?

Or faries?

Or Zeus's and Thor?

No.

Hope

This

Helps!!!!!!!!

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Yeah...just like I said.

Duh.

And it does not prohibit getting registered. Especially to a demographic tied with terrorism and war against our country.

Are you retarded? I am serious. Please tell us, so we can take your idiotic posts with s big grain of fucking salt. which we do anyway!

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You have absolutely no evidence...not one single iota...that you can provide to support your claim of an afterlife. All you have is your Bible. And that is a work of ancient fables and mythos. Never to be confused with s science book.

Counting on an afterlife is a fool's thinking. Magical thinking! Might as well believe in unicorns and fairy godmothers. There is the same amount of evidence for those as their is for an afterlife.

Better off we are all is to live this life to the fullest and enjoy it as much as possible, since it's all you can count on. And don't squander it praying to God's and dead Jew carpenters who do not exist. Much less care about you.

That shit is for the lazy and the weak.

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The Muslims should be forced to register. Their track record of terrorism and violence is sufficient enough to warrant it. Hell, those camel fucking bastards are lucky all Trump wants to do is register them. Many world leaders would outright deport or imprison a people that were connected byvreligion or ethnicity with terrorism.

And I don't want to hear any shit about how only a small amount of Muslims commit violence and jihad. Enough is enough. We don't fly 747's into their shit hole mudhuts.

As a veteran of OIF I already killed me a few ragheads. Should there be any trouble out of them when they have to register I would not mind going active duty again and greasing a few more.

As far as you registering as a Mooslim....who gives a shit? Your bio says Christian. I don't think you know what the fuck you are. And that includes your politics. I doubt you could define the words Liberal and Conservative. You come across to me as a confused little girl whose Daddy doesn't pay enough attention to.

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The founding fathers indeed ensured that religion would be kept apart from the government. They saw how bad shit can get when religious idiots have governmental influence. They also knew the dangers of a theocracy.

Anytime gods get put into the mix, you begin to exit reality and you enter into a dangerous fantasy land. Look at some of the crazy murderous shit Yahweh did in the Bible. Google "evil acts by Yahweh" and see what you find. You surely don't want that, do ya?

LOL

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Bullshit. The first amendment deals with freedom of speech and the right to peacefully gather for public protests and demonstrations. It also forbids the goverment to favor or discriminate on religion. But It has nothing to do with requiring a specific demographic to be registered with the government.

You really should try to understand the content of an item of the Constitution before you recklessly accuse somebody of violating it.

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Here is another very accessible and informative video that does a nice job of explaining to the layman how the process of Abiogenesis most likely occurred..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prZPo4OCL0

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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The experiment I cited with my link clearly showed that abiogenesis was not only easily possible given the environmental dynamics of the Earth some 3 BYA, but was also very likely. And since we KNOW that Evolution is true, as we have accounted for its machinations and processes step-by-step, the only heretofore missing ingredient we needed to complete the picture was Abiogenesis.

See...we knew by extrapolation that it had to occur. Unless of course the Panspermia Hypothesis is valid. Some things need not be witnessed to know that they occurred. Think about it: If your car starts up in the morning, and you, say, could see inside the engine and witness all the inner workings of internal combustion, EXCEPT for the coil sending an electrical charge to the spark plugs, well, you still KNOW that the coil did just that. You need not see it so long as you have extensive proof and observations of the rest of the operations.

So, we get the same sort of dynamic here with Abiogenesis: it being the "spark" that kick-started the Evolutionary process.

With an experiment further showing how this happened, proof is present that it indeed occurred in some similar if not exact fashion. This sort of proof would fall into the "beyond a reasonable doubt" category, given the plethora of remaining evidence for the remaining processes of Evolution.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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As far as my providing evidence to prove the fallacious claims of Theism, with all due respect, I need not do this, as the burden of proof lies squarely upon the shoulders of the Theists.

This is because the atheist view, ie., that there is no god, is the default position. The claims that theists make are indeed extraordinary ones: they trump "ordinary" and fact-based observations from science, by claiming there IS a supernatural entity. When in fact there is not one sinlgle solitary proof of this. Hell, not even any evidence. Not even any mildly compelling evidence.

All they have to fall back on is their own beliefs and their holy book. Which in decidedly NOT a book of science.

Whereas us atheists and Evolutionists have provided decades of experiments and observations. We have fossil evidence; DNA evidence; mtDNA evidence (mitochondrial DNA). We have shown step-by-step the processes of selective inheritance and Evolution. Ad nauseum.

The theory of Evolution has never even been successfully challenged! ALL former counter-opinions and ideas, such as intelligent design and "irreducible complexity" have been thoroughly debunked.

The only missing step we have not fully explained is Abiogenesis. Yet, we have shown how it is not only possible, but highly likely, given the environmental conditions of the Earth in its early stages.

(I say "early" but in fact it took a good 1 billion years for even the first microbial vestiges of life to form.) Why would a so-called Intelligent Creator need so much time?

The answer of course is that he would not. So the only recourse left for theists is to denounce ALL of our dozens of methods of dating. (Google "types of radiometric dating" and prepare to be amazed. The list is very lengthy!)

To throw all those datings out and say they are flawed is to discredit thousands of professional scientists and decades of proven technology. How can you possible with a straight face do this? When you rely on OTHER types of science every single day?

So, yes....the experiment in my OP showed clearly how Abiogenesis probably happened. It proved it is very possible and not even that difficult. In a few short years it will be as confirmed and as irrefutable as all the other tenets of Evolution.

There IS a reason that virtually every working professional Anthropologist and Biologist believes in Evolution and also opines that the Genesis Creation account is without any merit. There is not some big bad conspiracy going on here against you Theists. It is rather a conspiracy of Theists that attempt to denigrate good science only because it flies in the face of their beliefs.

There is no other reason.

If your bible did not "tell you so" you would be forced to realize and admit that all that science is as sound and viable as is the science that developed your computer; your car; your healthcare, and your medications and your nutritional supplements. As well as our military technology; space travel; air travel, et al.

To accept all of that science, as you do, and to refute the equally formidable science of Evolution is cherry picking and hypocrisy at its very worst.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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If you're French your username should be gitane.

You used Google translate for your French.

You had Denmark listed as your residence on your bio, then changed it to the U.S. right after I offered you my post in Danish.

I find all that rather curious.

SS

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Do brain-dead Trump supporters know how to properly form grammatically correct questions?

Judging by yours I would guess not.

LOL

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Jeg har brug for en chance for at praktisere dansk med dig. er god? hvad er din college grad i? tilgiv hvis min dansk har fejl!

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
1 point

You had Denmark as your residence in your bio before you changed it to the U.S..... you changed it right after my Danish post to you.

I find this curious.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Self-development is not possible. We cannot develop into being anything different than what we are. Accomplishments and improved talents does not change what we are.

See...this is the big problem with your type. You religious nuts and Creationists. As Dawkins says, you are content with NOT knowing or understanding the real world and your places in it.

Neuro-science has shown repeatedly that we can improve our cognition and brain power. It's like exercising a muscle. You exercise your brain. We can actually improve our IQ. This is called "neuro-plasticity." We've known about it for about a decade. The experiments and proofs of it happening are indisputable. We have seen people improve their powers of cognition and intelligence in many many tests and surveys.

Look it up.

But of course you will not.

Why?

Because, as I said: your kind is content with NOT knowing. You are all too happy to bathe in the lazy warm waters of religious zealotry, thinking, "Ahh...god did it. This is all I need. I don't have to work or learn."

What a crock of shit.

Shame on you.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Figures you'd pick somebody from oyur Bible.

And somebody who never existed, as well.

The city of King Solomon in Jerusalem is thought to be on the slope leading down from what is now the Al Aqsa mosque. Israeli archaeologists have been desperately excavating the site for many decades yet not one iota of evidence of the existence of King Solomon has been found. No mention of his name has been found on any tablet, inscription, tax record or pot decoration.

Anyone who has visited Egypt will have seen widespread evidence of a monarch who reigned three hundred years before Solomon, Pharaoh Rameses II, yet of King Solomon who ruled over a vast empire and army (1 Kings 4, 21-26 and 1 Kings 9, 17-23, 2 Chronicles 9, 25-26) there is no trace. All the vassal peoples who paid taxes to him have left not a single record of account or inscription. Not one of the soldiers of his conquering army left a sword, helmet or shield.

Professor Yadin’s two volume work "The Art Of Warfare In Biblical Lands" (International Publishing Co. Ltd., Jerusalem 1963) has ample illustrated examples of discovered contemporary armour and weapons from other lands, but one looks in vain for a single item from the Solomonic empire.

Search through Israel’s museums and you will find no evidence from the empire although there are ample artefacts marked "Canaan" or "Philistine". It is inconceivable that if Solomon and his empire had existed in reality not a trace of them could be found from all the archaeological "digs" throughout Israel.

Who then created this fiction, when and why? Many Hebrews of the Babylonian captivity, 586 BCE rose to leading positions in Babylon, became established and wealthy. They had no wish to return to the harsh life of a deserted and derelict land. The Hebrew people were facing the greatest threat ever: total annihilation by assimilation, and their land had been entered by armed hostile tribes.

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So the person who comes to mind for me is my fiance, Robyn.

And I would have to say, "No"--I would never turn her in to the cops. For ANYthing she did. I love her and hate cops. This is a huge no-brainer for me.

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1 point

how can you have been raised in Denmark and not speak Danish? I just wanted to practice my Danish with you. I'm not interested in speaking French with you.

I speak English and German fluently. And know a little Spanish and Danish and Afrikaans.

SS

1 point

aren't you in Denmark? your bio says so. weren't you raised there? SO how can you not speak the language. I just wanted to practice my Danish a bit.

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1 point

Since God does not exist, it matters not if anybody blaspemes him or not. It's just a waste of time, that is all. Like blaspheming Thor. Or the Keebler elves.

But some people are better at certain things than others. Men are not created equal. They are evolved. Some less than others. Some are smarter or better athletes or more wealthy. Some men are simply losers. Some people sqandervtheir precious lives wallowing in superstition.

Like those who believe in sky gods.

Homeless druggies or boozers are worth less than a sober successful family man.

Losers often embrace the myth of Jesus since he claimed the poor were equal. And that they will one day getvthrir rewards.

So what loser would not embrace that philosophy? It's easier than getting a job!

SS

1 point

du vil ikke finde nogen her, der kender Satre.

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Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.

Nobody died at OSU.

We cannot, for example, rule out that the universe is not a giant video game. But it is not.

Officials cannot rule out terrorism, but you will see by tomorrow that OSU was not.

The Batman theater dude was a Christian.

Do we call McVeigh and Holmes Christian terrorists?

No.

So get the fuck off of islam. It is a non factor in this story.

Where, again, nobody died.

You need to quit cherry picking.

Hitler was a Christian too!

See how silly this thinking is?

I can see it but you cannot.

This is why I am smsrter than you.

Well.....one of the many reasons.

SS

1 point

kvinder har også fordele. kan vi tale dansk, så jeg ca øve?

1 point

Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.

And..this just in....terrorism was not the motive at Ohio state. So Islam had nothing to do with it.

Besides, nobody died. Unlike with Oklahoma city!! LOL.

Damn....I win again.

Allah ahk bar.

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As I said, the list of Yahweh atrocities was so long it wouldn't all fit!

Like the thing with the pharoh. Thanks for reminding me of yet another cruel act from your sky God.

You forget...pharoh would have likely capitulated earlier after only the first plague or so, but the douche Yahweh wanted the excuse to inflict even more pain. So what does he do? He hardens pharohs heart!!!! Makes him resist the desire to free the Hebes! This is like when torturers keep their victims alive so they can inflict more pain on them.

And of course the hardening of pharoh culminates in Yahweh the baby killer murdering the Egyptians first born. The tenth plague. Also, what kind of stupid diety would need for his people to mark door jambs with blood so he would know not to accidentally muder the wrong children?

I am surprised you brought up pharo, since it is a classic case of malevolence and cruelty and sadism on Yahweh's part. You forget how much Bible I know, Mr saint.

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Those stages don't follow mine at all, Betty.

I was pissed from the gitgo when Trump was elected. And then depressed, and then simply pissed and resigned to the fact that this country got what it deserved. And thus it will suffer the consequences and hopefully learn a lesson.

But I will never accept Trump SS my President. Call that denial if you wish. He can suck my big fat cock. I have dual citizenship so for the next four years I am a Canadian!

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What a surprise! The two biggest Theist morons on the whole fucking site are the first to reply in the negative category! That srom dude cannot even form a coherent paragraph. Just read it. Makes no sense. Just like the idea of an imaginary friend sky God.

Tis a pity these idiots do not realize the vast portion of their lives that are squandered on talking to and worshipping a false deity who does not exist. Let alone hears them. Or gives two shits about them. Our lives here on earth are already incredibly brief. This is why us atheists actually value our lives more than the theists.

So...figure one of these deluded dolts spends, say, three hours a week talking to their imaginary friend. That equates to a walloping 160 hours a year. Or about one week per year!

So...in a 75 year long life of a religious fool, they waste 75 weeks, or over one precious year, just talking to something that isn't there. Something who impacts their lives and listens to them or cares about them as much as Big Bird does.

Wow.

Sucks to be them, amigo.

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Yeah they did, Betty. But they usedvit as a day to offer special prices on slaves. And they called it Niggers for Nothing Day.

Or something along those lines. My memory is a tad fuzzy.

LOL.

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I stopped reading your diatribe after about five words or so. Right after you called anybody who does not listen to and agree with your views as idiots.

Just some advice here.... Insulting your intended audience at the outset of your statement is probably not the optimal method for compelling them to pay attention to you.

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SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Just a quick clarification here.......

That stat you just cited is a very misleading one.

Why?

Because.....the stats people who put out that bit about 5000 or so "children" being killed by guns each year are considering 17 y.o. black gangbangers as children. Since they are technically under 18. And make no mistake, it is that demographic that comprises the vast majority of that number of murdered kids.

So it's not like little innocent 10 year olds playing in their backyard with their toys are being gunned down. Those nigger gangbangers are, by and large, adults engaging in Street crime.

Just so ya know,since you don't live here and all.

S#

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ya got me there! good catch.

Although they DID originate there and are of the same felidae family as lions and leopards, you're right....no tigers anymore on the African Continent. It's the lions I was thinking of. (also endangered, I believe?)

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1 point

Hmmm...

Let's see.......

your avatar is that of Sir Charles Darwin.

you're NOT American, so perhaps...you are a Brit?

you are an avid atheist.

you despise organized religion, and know that the notion of a personal god is a farce.

you're well-known in your field.

and you're obviously well-educated.

Wow.....are you Richard Dawkins, perhaps?

I am only half-kidding. But your wit and jokes remind me of Dawkins. (Myself a Biologist, I have read just about everything he has written.)

If you ARE Dr. Dawkins.......welcome! And...it's an honor.

"The Selfish Gene" was instrumental in my decision to pursue Biology and delve deeper into the study of Evolution.

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2 points

You're right.

Or..like telling a politician he needs to quit lying.

1 point

I agree!!

Did you know there are only about 3000 tigers left in the entire world?? Well, that is....tigers living free and in the wild.

But here in the united States we have about twice that number in captivity. Mostly in zoos.

One of the wildlife charities I am on the board of is one to save the Florida panther, who is in worse peril than the tiger! There's only a few dozen panthers left! Fifty years ago we had hundreds!

The tigers are supposed to be a protected species in Africa, but the government's there are very untrustworthy and cannot be depended on to enforce protection laws. They will allow tigers to be hunted and killed for sport if the money is good. Since most African nations are poor. This is where international wildlife protection organizations must come into the picture.

Go online and see what you can do to help these guys. Or see if your parents will! I say that since you sound young.

But I appreciate your concern and knowledge about the tigers! They are magnificent creatures!

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Since you cannot spell the word I cannot help but doubt you really know the meaning.

Was JFK emasculated?

Was Gahndi?

Was FDR?

Was Jefferson?

Funny you, a guy who has a female avatar, using the word. If you are a dude, that is. I often wonder. I think you might be lady minkfart's lesbo lover.

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Indeed. If all the blood Yahweh spilled really was wine, there would have been enough to get the world drunk for years!!!

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1 point

Good to see another rational member here, sir. You will be a welcome ally in my struggle here against deluded and zealous Theist terrorists, who attempt to poison our site with their superstious tripe.

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1 point

Fuck!!

And the list goes ON!!

This is just from Genesis..............

Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8

"I will destroy ... both man and beast."

God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17

"Every living substance that I have made will I destroy."

God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

"All flesh died that moved upon the earth."

God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23

God sends a plague on the Pharaoh and his household because the Pharaoh believed Abram's lie. 12:17

God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10

Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6

"I will not destroy it for ten's sake."

I guess God couldn't find even ten good Sodomites because he decides to kill them all in Genesis 19. Too bad Abraham didn't ask God about the children. Why not save them? If Abraham could find 10 good children, toddlers, infants, or babies, would God spare the city? Apparently not. God doesn't give a damn about children. 18:32

Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:7-8

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24

Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26

God gets angry with king Abimelech, though the king hasn't even touched Sarah. He says to the king, "Behold, thou art but a dead man," and threatens to kill him and all of his people. To compensate for the crime he never committed, Abimelech gives Abraham sheep, oxen, slaves, silver, and land. Finally, after Abraham "prayed unto God," God lifts his punishment to Abimelech, "for the Lord had fast closed up all the wombs of the house of Abimelech, because of Sarah." 20:3-18

Sarah, after giving birth to Isaac, gets angry again at Hagar (see 16:5-6) and tells Abraham to 'cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands Abraham to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14

God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13

Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10

"Because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son."

Why did God love Abraham so much? Because he was willing to murder his son for him. (Greater evil hath no man than this, that he is willing to kill his own son for God.) 22:16

Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31

"The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5

"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10

After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24

Joseph interprets the baker's dream. He says that the pharaoh will cut off the baker's head, and hang his headless body on a tree for the birds to eat. 40:19

God brought a seven year, "very grievous" famine on the whole earth for no apparent reason (except maybe to make Joseph wealthy). 41:25-32, 54

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Top Ten List!!

Top Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian...

10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

LOL!!!

SS

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Well, shit...I gotta admit that if anybody knew a shit-load about spilling blood it would be your Yahweh. Given the millions of innocents he has killed, or allowed to be murdered or raped.

So yeah, sweet pants, nice reference there! Good job. Pure gold! LOL

SS

2 points

Is Trump a good president?

That's like asking of the bible is a book to look to for morality. Or if god is real.

The answer to ALL those questions is a resounding and hearty "FUCK NO!"

SS

1 point

Liberalism, above all, means emancipation - emancipation from one's fears, his inadequacies, from prejudice, from discrimination, from poverty.

--Hubert H. Humphrey

1 point

I think being a liberal, in the true sense, is being nondoctrinaire, nondogmatic, non-committed to a cause - but examining each case on its merits. Being left of center is another thing; it's a political position. I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen. If they're preordained dogmatists for a cause, then they can't be very good journalists; that is, if they carry it into their journalism."

--Walter Cronkite

2 points

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

2 points

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

2 points

Here's something every Trumpian or Conservative should keep in mind........

"Just cuz you only care about the wealthy and don't care if your new POTUS is a sexual predator and will probably get in into a foreign war as well as a Civil War does not mean there are not other, more intelligent and thoughtful and caring people who loathe Trump, and think that the old saying, 'Patriotism is the last refuge of a Scoundrel' very true."

--SlapShot

1 point

Seems the lord also condones rape!!

Is there any deed TOO despicable for the Douche God Yahweh?

I think not!

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we dest60royed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn’t give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans “property”.

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I actually had to edit that list of bible atrocities since it was too long and wojuld nto fit in the header space! LOL

Here is one of my very favorite lovely bible stories. God murders kids for dissing one of his bald prophets! What a douche!

2 Kings 2:23–24

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23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”

24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number.

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2 Kings 2:23–24

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23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”

24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number.

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Yeah, Yahweh is not only a Douche, but a cowardly and murderous Douche.

How 'bout that time when he had a couple dozen children murdered just cuz they made fun of his boy Elijah's bald head and called him "baldy?"

LOL...that was pure gold.

The Bible is SUCH a good fount of morality, eh?

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2 Kings 2:23–24

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23 Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and amocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”

24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he acursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of 1their number.

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As usual, you are dead wrong, SadMan.

We atheists most certainly do not make-up our own morals. Rather, the vast majority of us are good and decent law-abiding citizens who follow the accepted morals and codes of society. Many of us volunteer for charities, as I do with Habitat For Humanity. Many of us work in fields to help others, such as in law enforcement and medicine and Social Services. Perhaps you are unaware that there are far more secular charity and philanthropic organizations than there are of non-secular ones?

We simply do not need to engage in superstition and Bronze Age Hebrew Mythology to be good people. Nor do we need to believe in false imaginary friend sky gods or long-dead Jewish carpenters. And we certainly do not need to ascribe to the teachings of a blood-soaked holy book that has dozens of passages in it that call for murdering entire ethnic peoples, or children, or innocents. As does your bible.

Nor do we feel compelled to partake in holy wars, which have killed millions. If you need your silly religion to try and be decent people, then fine. Use your crutch if you must.

We don't need it.

Thanks but no thanks.

When was the last time you helped the homeless? Or did something kind for somebody with no thought of a reward?

So, speak for yourself. We do fine without your silly shite.

SS

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rationaldoubt/2014/10/atheist-morality-no-need-for-god/

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
1 point

Actually in my last post I did not engage in bragging or Narcissism at all. I did not mention my military service, and the fact I DID moderate for a bit on DDO is also not a brag, but a simple point of fact. To be sure, I do not consider being a mod on an internet debate site anything to brag about. I have also written many posts that did not ridicule Christians. And you are welcome to check my Waterfall to see this yourself.

I also highly doubt you can find more than one other person here who agrees with you that I am a fool, as you claim.

Other than that, thanks for another fair and objective and knowledgeable post.

NOT!

LOL

SS

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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Actually, Mr. Saint..there is a bit of truth in your post here.

In that: I DO prefer Naturalism over Theism, and I DO find some of the awe-inspiring beauty found in this world of nature to be so intrinsically complex and beautiful and majestic so as to be very close to what you call Supernatural. I have always felt that the nature-based religions, like those of the ancient Celts and the Native Americans, to be far more palatable and logical than the Theistic ones that worship gods and godesses.

And hell, I AM satisfied in my reality, unlike most Theists, who are so very UNsatisfied with it that they feel compelled to invent gods and various versions of Afterlifes.

If you mean that believing I myself am the Master of my own destiny, then, again YES! I suppose by that very limited definition I think myself akin to a god.

YOu were wrong, alas, in claiming I see no meaning in Life. I habe explained before that I DO. The meaning is to enjoy it as much as possible--via the Epicurean belief system--as well as to also learn as much as possible about us and our place in the Cosmos. Ya see, when one realizes how old life is ( some three billion years since we were microbial) one also sees what a very very brief "blink of an eye" time we have here on Earth. So in that way--knowing there is NO afterlife--I can claim to actually value THIS life more than theists such as yourself.

Thanks. Oh...and Happy Thanksgiving!

SS


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