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Italy set to offer "Menstrual Leave" for female workers suffering from painful periods
Soooooo…this is what progress looks like?
Italy’s parliament is considering passing a measure which would give women three days of paid menstrual leave. No. Not maternity. MENSTRUAL. You know. For women who experience aches, pains, headaches and basically every other symptom associated with that time of the month and Italian women already struggle in the job market. Italy has one of the lowest rates of female participation in the workforce in Europe. Only 61 percent of Italian women work well below the European average of 72 percent. Feminist magazines like Marie Claire have praised the idea as a step in the direction of progress.
The government forcing businesses to provide paid menstrual leave is only going to hurt the percentage of women working in Italy but leave it up to the Feminazis to praise a step in the wrong direction.
No, this would only apply to cis women and trans men, people who actually get periods. Please clarify how "the left is this far gone," when menstrual symptoms are something people cannot control and therefore are a medical condition.
Periods do not usually disappear with surgery, I don't think you understand how female to male gender transition works, the only way for trans men to not get periods would be to get a hysterectomy, which is not standard procedure. Also, please address the fact that menstrual pain is a medical condition, so to get leave off work you would need to get a note from a doctor, who can verify that there is a significant problem.
A trans man may still have a uterus, and there fore will still have a period. I've explained, now please explain what grounds you have for calling me insane. Once again, you clearly need to do research on how gender transition works before you should even be having this conversation.
Do you find amusement in being this laughably stupid?
A trans man is a woman who identifies as a man.
Perhaps you're not aware of this, but women are generally born with a uterus. Therefore, a trans man would still have a uterus unless they've had the specific treatment.
Yes, once again please do some research before calling someone else a dummy. Trans men can sometimes still give birth because they still have female reproductive organs. Trans women cannot, because they still don't have a uterus.
I just checked. A person who was not born female cannot have a period. A man who goes through gender re-assignment surgery will not subsequently acquire periods despite being post-op.
I'm not interested in that terminology, that's why I didn't use it. So I made my point in no uncertain trans terms. That point being that a trans-man is not the same as a man. A trans-woman is not the same as a woman.
If people are trying to argue a point, and rather than addressing the point you attack their terminology, you haven't made much of a point.
Can transwomen get this? 'Cuz they're women, too. And, transmen, 'cuz "they bleed", too. It's an Oprah show - "You get days off" and "you get days off" and... Well, you get the idea.
Trans men and cis women are the only ones with periods, so they are the only ones who will get this. And as for "you get days off, and you get days off," clearly you have never been throwing up for hours on end after taking as much pain medication as you can. This wouldn't be for everyone, a lot of people get normal periods during which they can work, this is for the people who faint from the pain and literally cannot work on those days. Also, can we talk about how they only people who complain about the fact that this is happening are people who don't get periods anyway and don't have to deal with it.
Because only they have a uterus, so only they can have a period. Do you even understand what trans and cis mean? Because I am starting to think you don't.
Yes, do a google search of how gender transition works. I'm not going to argue with an idiot who won't do research and then calls me dumb. Figure out what you are arguing about and then come talk to me.
Well I'm not wrong, so please explain how I am insane. Your statement implies that other people get periods, when the truth is otherwise. You can't attack me personally, please attack my arguments.
OK, I'm tired of a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about trying to make me sounds stupid, so let me clarify everything once and for all. If I call someone a trans man, that means they started out a woman, and If I call someone a trans woman, that means they started out a man. Brain exploded from too much logic yet? Cis means your stay the way you were born, so a cis woman was born a woman and still is one, and a cis man was born a man and still is one. Some TRANS MEN can still get periods because they still have a uterus, but some don't because they had it removed, or are on certain hormones. This would ONLY BE OFFERED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DOCTOR'S NOTE. This means that you can't fake it, but it would be a lot easier just to fake sick, and not everyone could get it, only those who are medically affected by it.
Trans men and cis women are the only ones with periods LMMFAO ! Your insanity is so noted ! Claiming I'm insane when I have facts on my side, and ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT does not make you any smarter.
My wife, for several decades before I met her and before we had kids, suffered from crippling endometriosis, which is when tissue that normally lines the uterus starts growing outside of it and then when it's time for a period there is immense bleeding and pain in places not designed to have it. She had several major surgeries and when at its worst it was as incapacitating as being hit by a car.
Endometriosis is just one example. There are many other scenarios by which periods can get out of hand.
And then there's the argument that if they're having PMS as bad as that co-workers may be genuinely happy to have them not around the office.
Then in the "against",
There are countless medical conditions that annoy, cause pain, or incapacitate. Creating leave for any and all of them would be absurd. And technically being out due to PMS could fall into general categories for away time which already exist.
And the fact that women have existed for as long as our species and they survived without menstrual leave up until now.
