You have lied and are guilty, deserve to die, and need to be justified to live. You cannot justify yourself.
What have I lied?
You lost your innocence of infancy and you know you are guilty.
I'm guilty of having gathered experience of life? I don't understand. If I was meant to lose the innocence of infancy, how am I guilty?
none of us deserves one more heartbeat or breath of air from God, all of us deserve to burn in Hell
Why are we born then?
it's only God's mercy which has kept us out of the fire.
God's mercy keeps us safe from terrorism, from natural disasters, from terminal diseases? If all of us are sinners, how come a part of the population is subject to the wrath of God here on Earth? How come infants die early deaths? How come people for no fault of theirs are born into poverty and hunger?
I don't have to prove anything. If I did have to prove anything to you,
What are you trying to do then?
You think you are making God go away by saying He is not there,
Why? Tell me why I'd wanna make God away by saying he isn't there unless I believed he isn't there.
you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell based on the fact that you now exist outside of Hell.
No... I do not think that.
the prison of Hell awaits you are not pardoned by God, and Jesus Christ will be your Judge...
Is it a different punishment in case I'm Buddhist or Hindu or Muslim? Or you're implying Christ alone is the redeemer?
Rationalization is subjective
And your belief that Christ is the saviour is the only Truth?
You are a sinner who needs to be saved from Hell
I can't wait for hell until death, I think I'm and most of us are really battling it here right now.
It is almost fundamental for Islam to be militant in its execution of practice and its law in order to exist. Having said that, It is also necessary (defenses) for every religion to practice violence in order to protect and secure. The religious battles in history have been more about protection by/ of identity rather than mere communal tensions. The greatest disaster religion has caused is to create the pledge or even bond of identity that constitutes a religious person's course. Islam by all means is inherently a religion that advocates violent measures to attain religious goals.
The lie you have been fed is to believe you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner
A lie is something that is told. Not a realization. That God doesn't exist is not a lie that is fed but common sense or rationalization.
Only God is self-justified.
How is God self-justified? I exist, you exist. That is self-justified. Are you telling me, something you do not see, or have read about in million different books, of different languages, cultures all claiming authority over the power of God is self justified?
You really think that eliminating God from the thoughts of mankind will bring peace and harmony to the world?
What has the presence of God in the thoughts of mankind brought?
Do you know what Communism is?
Not Atheism. A political system based on power dynamics.
It's the fruit of your silly belief in the goodness of human hearts.
It is the result of faulty tyrannical structures. And it exists in every ideological or religious platform. Your advocacy for religion or God hasn't proven otherwise either.
It is. We kill ants, sheep, goats, pigs, cows, snakes, lizards, tigers, other wild and domesticated animals. And then we also 'kill' plants and forests to make way, build housing areas, new cities and "zoos". We kill everything except each other. Oh no, wait... We also kill babies when they are still in the womb; kill babies based on their gender and sacrifice them to Gods. We kill each other in wars or genocides or gender crimes. Not only is killing part of us but so is hypocrisy!
It is very off putting when you hear a woman swear.
But perfectly alright if a man does so.
They are docile and intelligent animals
Men are aggressive, stubborn and unintelligent animals?
their lips should not be sullied with such dirty language.
Yes? Cuz their lips are forever vulnerable, meant only to be kissed and answered when addressed to...
I don't see how women's oppression is not sexist. It may be fairly sided but most definitely is a voice against sexism. Feminism on the other hand is a subject of gender studies where the construct of the ideal male or masculinities is well dealt with as well. For it you have similar voices...
A voice for the weak is much more in need, I'm sorry if I sound biased, but believe me I am not. The weak include women, children, eunuchs or gay or lesbian relationships. Of you notice "the rights" you're being highly critical about are sociological issues that demand attention.
What is sexism? And what by feminism do you understand? It's an ideology. To call feminism extremism is like to say all muslims are terrorists. (Which I hope you are not a believer of.) Feminism is a fight against sexism, against unfair treatment of women. If you believe that this is not a social issue. I must confess you are not only ignorant but also insensitive. Because there are several aspects that you are ignoring.
Of course...
If your are extremely positive, you are blind, you will miss the end of the cliff assuming the path still moves on. To be cynical, to question is important.
That does not mean, you throw away optimism. Optimism is essential, just in boundaries.
I think being good or bad are high social constructs. There is no good or bad. There is only self and the others. Every act of ours is for the benefit of ourselves or to serve the 'conscience,' which is again for self satisfaction- high social construct.
Its the survival of the fittest. Not survival of the best man alive.
If a being is X, how can it be anything other than itself?
Unless he is taught to behave otherwise. Unless codes of society or rules are embedded in his mind. One may be born one way but learns to act the other; leading to confusion no doubt, but would remain no more what he was.
Although genes play a primary role in making of a man, it develops upon 'learning'. First thought and then behaviour. What a man is intrinsically cannot be challenged with what he could be made. It is often what a man is and 'how' he is made or directed upon. But I believe a major proportion of the making of a man or of any such debated issues, be it personality or IQ depends on the setup that gives one enough opportunities to celebrate and work on self.
However, when one's natural element is itself highly flawed and leaves no scope of further development, nature's role in comparision otherwise starts to fade off.
While with things such as the IQ, one's competitive nature cannot help; he or she must be 'blessed' with enough gray matter. FOr a person's physical attributes, such as height, genes play a bigger role. But in the making of one's personality it can be nothing more than the environment he or she is brought up in.
You say, without paying regard to the bible stories. What stories? If you want to remain a Christian, what part of christianity do you still want to stick to? Which are the parts you think must be disposed?
If you choose to ignore certain aspects, adopt the others and stay christian, I think you would just be repeating history.
You believe Earth is not flat. Aren't you a Christian? Middle ages, you would be in a cell. But now, you are.
So yup! You choose what you want to be. We all do in a way.
I dunno if I could say Christians are all hypocrites. I mean of course not. But, it takes spirit to see through the opaque that something is wrong. To rebel against the majority. I'm sure when you say you hate Christians, you don't throw stones at all of them.
NO... Its not "legal" the way you put! Have you actually read the QURAN? Ur argument is based on the internet sources that can be misleading. Islam may be a little out of modernity, but it is a widely followed religion, it can't be that stupid. You have to be dumb to even believe that!
I personally think its a stupid question. Its like asking if robbery is okay... You know, rape is a sexual assault like stealing is an assault to an individual's liberty of existence. Hence a wrong thing. I dunno if your trying to get to something. But, oui... I think its stupid!
Oh yes. I'd second that. Its true. Passion is very essential. It cannot be simple taken for granted. Teaching is an art and very importantly noble. You have to direct students to like something, understand and appreciate something the way you do.
Have you ever taught before? No offence... Are you familiar with the laws of the educational industry?
What I'm trying to say is that things are a pretty strict. You are given touch schedules. You have to get across a topic of any level to all sorts of brain. In the time prescribed to you. You need to teach the right thing. You have to be careful of what you say and etc, etc. Above all you are of high influence to many.
"Those who can't do, teach"
That must be where you stay. Here in India, teaching is accepted as a passion.
The British did make you country,
The British "contributed", "helped" in the making of a country.
I find it highly unrealistic that a bunch of principalities based on an agricultural economy would all agree to form one huge state which would then become modern day India.
The English entered India way back. It's also unrealistic to say that the growth would remain stunted for 200 years. And "modern day India" like I said would be different. We cannot comment how different because that is not what happened. Also about the neighbouring countries engulfing India, is not something you can simply assume. India back then was stretched beyond it's borders today. We can't say what could have happened.
Because we made your country what it is today.
Too much credit. Don't you think? Yes... We all agree that the English have made an immense contribution. Not just to India, to a lot in history. But, if you give something there is something you take back in return. Now all that is history... A lot happened. We were given modern technology in exchange of over exploitation. Of labour and natural resources. There is a reason to why there is a complex mis-proportion of the elite and the poor in India. The roots start from the colonial empire. But we can't blame the British for it. Because there are two sides to each coin.
Do you really think India would exist if it wasn't for the British Empire?
Yes of'course it would exist. Maybe just differently. No... Maybe not for worse, not for the best either. We can't say. But it would exist. No one can take blame for what's happening today. Nor can anyone take all the credit!
How happy will you be if your grandchildren turn out to be gangsters, drug users, exconvict and the likes because your daughter wanted to be a modern woman.
Is that what your trying to say that I'm giving birth to a convict or a drug dealer? Only cuz "modernity" according to you subjects to that?
Manner less kids? What are you talking about huh? Is that your son or you daughter? I do not mean to get personal. But a child learns from his or her parents. Irrespective of them being modern or not!
Yeah get real to that! Video games and television do not harm kids. What harms kids are your ideals. What you make them think is right or wrong. When you think a lady working is all wrong your passing that message to the kids. To disrespect their mothers further and depend on them only to find your lost socks!
loath the ideals to which they subscribe
So that will end you up with hatred for everyone that disagrees with your ideals. What are your ideals comprised of? Why are they right or wrong? I'm not stressing that they are wrong. I'm simply stating nothing offers the surety.
Why did you join such a loathed community?
Answer- I cannot seize to be a part of one community because another despises it. Which community would rather promise me an unbiased ideal? Or anything like it? Even if it means atheism.
Men were never ruled by "true judgement", which I take to mean "universal tolerance".
Is that an accepted excuse to "loathe" as you say, a community for the mere reason of your understanding of "ideals"? Of your criticism against Milton?
so long as they attempt no forceful conversion of my people.
Well... I suppose I was looking for this in a stretch.
deny that you have any moral right to circumcise your child without his consent, in the absence of medical necessity.
Medical necessity is rarely denied.
I disparage any woman who meekly accepts the inequality in which her beliefs have placed her.
Well, there again is a failure of universal sabotage, semantic in nature. To comprehend inequality or rather judge it by those who accept it. Do you make your choice because your mind says so.. Or human voices. I leave it to each one's perception. And going by laws made today, inequality has proven to be for itself a word showing hypocrisy. And many places; satirical irony.
Lol... Guess something just had to stay in 2012!
The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
You are obviously an asshole. I don't even care calling you that cuz you have the BALLS to comment something so bizarre. People have built mosques, temple and churches- TO PRAY! Not cuz it embarks someone's colonial rule alright? There are a hundred mosques in America already you loser. GROW YOUR head around yourself, will ya?
This is a really old debate and its on with its entity. Do they need to commemorate something that is yet to symbolize tyranny over the very existence of religions and castes and their on going tiffs. No thanks... That is some place people died and whatever the cause and person behind you do not need people to hang over heels on that.
Stalin's work can instead be divided into the parts where he succeeded and those where he failed. He has contributed to economy and laws that are still in practice. Hence to call something unsuccessful bypassing events that have made major changes would be wrong. When one sees his contribution in a perspective that is not in relation with what he otherwise did; question that arises is; not if Stalin was successful but if his policies worked.
So here what is required is not to negotiate with his ways of expression but demand how his ways have worked.
Also in the ways he has failed as some here have mentioned like the thousands of deaths, it is important to analyze it deeper.
Thanks for the invite...
I have to confess that I have been quite fond of communism as a form. But, if it is an ideal form, that is not conclusive. It never took on history. Communism is an awesome possibility but it is not likely to happen.
It traps economy to a number of chosen people. The independence that is rather available is banned in other words. It is utopian.
Communism is never to work as it requires like minded people to agree upon terms and conditions. But, that is quite a lot to expect.
To start with...
I believe feminism has made women -cunning and deceitful.
How is that different from men who actually cheat in marriage or those who marry for sex or money. There are such cases. What I'm only trying to say is that it is just not that evil dwells in women alone. That happens to be very exclusively for both the genders. So if there are women cunning and deceitful, there are also men of equal deceit.
My first example is to show what I believe feminism is founded upon.
Trust me... What you presume isn't right! Feminism in fact is based on strict ethics. It was founded for the harshest of reasons. If you believe that feminism is based on women who are judgmental. And there, not all women are judgmental.
If we begin to base our assumptions on thoughts like those. We will fail to relate to any cause related programme or community. Even Antisemitism or Apartheid. Loom don't take it as an offense. But, I'm only explaining what could and what has caused to feminism.
Actions speak louder than words
There are still so many actions that prey women.
Other than I agree with everything you said
I'm glad that you do...
the fact that the feminism also encourages the increased masculinity and false-manhood that make most "normal" men panic
I'm sorry... But, that kinda cracked me up! Lol... Well, yes. To that I agree. There are certain agencies that lead to negative Jackpot.
I believe they were successful in making the law courts (in particular ,divorce) biased towards women. Only time men receive custody is is when the woman is an absolute psycho. While some men are suffering the loss, and pain of not being able to see their children. Not to mention the number of women that use their snake-like lawyers to steal the man of his well-earned money. She tells lies in court, then the man gets mad- then the judge sees the side of him that the ex-wife fabricated.
And yes all that happens. But, within strict feministic ideologies. Agencies must have zero involvement in a female's personal issues such as custody, inheritance and etc.
Though I do understand that what you mean is not regarding the direct agencies affect but how it has influenced. But, I feel that is just society with it's share of both good and bad people. So it's rather not a right idea to blame feminists for it. It is after all established for a good reason.
Okay... All my dreams are weird and what weird to me is a realistic dream... So what I dream is like this normal day... I'm off to college. And I have this friend who later got into prostitution(Why I highlight this is cuz I do not disrespect prostitution) okay? So I haven't been in touch with her since like 3months. So I meet her on the way to my college and she is dressed in pure white and drying off blood stains on her white long top(Traditional Indian Wear.) I just ignore her and keep walking like I didn't even look at her. And the next I'm in my class, looking down and I see her with her stroll flying in the air. I don't remember if she was looking even at me.
That morning I got a message from her saying she is sorry that she fought me and did some nasty things to me. She also asked me not to reply back on that number.
After a week we got a news that she jumped off her building. She couldn't make it.
It gives me more than just goosebumps when I think of it. I feel so bad. I ignored her in my dream and she died.
I dunno if it was a sign. I don't even believe in all that. But, she was wearing white. What we wear here at funerals. God!
a bunch of black guys rob a bank. I go in an elevator a white women suddenly puts her purse tight under her arm.
Yes... But, it is different! That is racism. It is a completely different aspect of discrimination. And, No it isn't right.
some Stupid white women dont know that im already loaded
It could also be a man in the same situation. Racism, in it's extremes is practiced by not just the women but also the Men folk.
(which would lead me to believe women are more judgemental and snobby when i experience this scenario more)
This is only once perhaps twice or thrice or a little more than that. There are all types of women. Some who are judgmental and some who are rather understanding depending on the factors that are determinants for men as well.. So what you are blaming women to be blamed for could be the factors very much in relevance with males as well.
And feminists often try to do their best to emasculate man and de-femenize women.
You know... You don't realize you are doing it but you are stereotyping feminists here. There are certain feminist agencies who do not deal with the core issues. But, there agencies who do. Like domestic violence, or female infanticide, or the issue of traditional re-marriage as unacceptable practice in certain areas. Or forceful abortions, rapes(In a different context) and etc.
Let men be Men Let women be Women.
But, that is yet more difficult I can bet. Because... Men in several parts of the World do not let Women just be. Don't you think it is carried down? It is still not balanced...
Lets not just talk of how women stereotype here. It's not just women. It's anybody. It's society. But, female discrimination is only women. Feminism is not about female superiority, it's about equality.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.... I found you to be real sweet!
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The planet is not a pussy it can take alot of shit and be fine,
Yeah, and you can remain a ruler and rule a World of extinct Homosapiens.
such as massive asteroid collisions hundreds of thousands of volcano eruptions and tuns of cataclysmic weather changes, temperature changes, water current changes, land mass shifts and on and on. All of which are far worse then anything we can do.
So lets wait for something like that to hit us while we still deplete the elements of our planets that are our major sources of survival. So probably kick the hut and stay tuned for what is up next.
By the way we are NOT running out of natural fuel.
OMG! I believe you!
Why should we believe something that has been researched for all of 50 year
That's right! We should believe you who rejects standardized observations and statistics and results by doctors who have spent lives on it, instead believing an assemblage that pertains to the fact that there is nothing wrong with inhaling hydrogen Cyanide and Phosgene.
Animals have been going extinct since life existed on this planet,
That is a very good reason to kill all the left animals for branded overcoats and fur on our boots or simply kill for joy. And finally have ourselves extinct from our planet as well.
people have only been hear for a very short time
So we are allowed to mess up the order.
sure as hell doesn't make me want to take responsibility for anything.
It's almost like your ignoring all the facts that surround us haunting the only existing qualities and you fail to act in understanding or unready to give it up. So you do not accept that we really are killing our co-species. Messing with the ozone layer or something like Leaving only 200 tigers left alive.
Oh Come on... This is so ignorant! Do you really believe that? I mean... there are primarily 3 supreme Gods- The Trimurti- i.e- Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu and Lord Brahmana. Okay... And the other Gods like Lord Ram or Lord Krishna are supposedly the incarnations of the three major Gods. That is how the line runs. Apart from that there are also the Goddesses like Goddess Laxmi or lord Gayathri. You see... There are so many of them.
Globalll Warmmmmmminnnnnnngg! We are seriously polluting what surrounds us. That is a fact. No matter how skeptical we can be. We sure are causing a lot of harm to the World. And there is also the extinction of animals. All this is a proof enough that we are screwing with the environment and causing ourselves an alarm.
H G Wells had predicted the warming up way back but he supposed it would be a more natural phenomenon.
We are also running out of natural fuel. In a situation like this. If we believe not to accept the existence of global warming it is like we refuse to take responsibility. Which at this stage is an increased need.
Of'course not! Nobody on this planet has a right over anyone's life. Deciding if a person can be responsible for another's life or not while some of those who sit out to decide that may yet be unsuitable for being the perfect image for their kids. A homosexual with a gay partner is better off with a kid than a homosexual with a straight partner with a kid.
Something devilish! I used to be a fan of Vampires when as I child I would watch Dracula or underworld or Near dark and love the blood and the bad ass vampires. And then came the ever so disgusting son of the Vampires who fell in love and made love and were more romantic for the bunch of assholes who skip nights and self proclaim themselves to be vampires.
So yeah... I now prefer werewolves of'course until someone inspires from Jacob and writes a crappy romantic werewolf crap and abduct another good generation of werewolves!
Obviously certain people just stick to narrow believes refusing to accept the new ways! I can't stand them either. Especially where I stay. The people here have a ''Stereotypical'' Thinking based on colour, race especially region and more so Religion.
To categorize a person's character based on their race or region is completely unnecessary... We need to get rid of such thoughts. To believe all Muslims or all Pakistanis are terrorists or all Australians are descendants of convicts giving them a negative background. Or anything like that....
Education is more than just writing exams I believe... Or getting straight A s or scoring more than a 95%. Education and in it's truest sense is believing in learning something that is not forced but that is created inside of your heart. That is related to your security in the brain and satisfaction to yourself.
