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Is the Bible the only thing keeping you from murdering 58 people??
Hello:
Right
wing Christians constantly tell us that the ONLY thing keeping them
from committing MASS MURDER is God.. Oh, they don't phrase it that way,
but, make no mistake, that's what they're saying..
Fox and
Friends co-host Ainsley Earhardt echoed that sentiment suggesting that
Stephen Paddock fired into the crowd, killing 58 and wounding hundreds
more, because he was an atheist. Speaking to co-hosts Brian Kilmeade
and Steve Doocy, Earhardt picked up on statements made by Paddock's twin
brother, claiming that that the shooter, "didn't believe in God or
didn't have a God or didn't have faith in his life."
Of course
there's NO evidence whatsoever regarding the killers religious beliefs,
but my question is NOT about the veracity of Fox and Friends.
I just wanna know if the Bible is the ONLY thing keeping you from murdering 58 people??
If it would have then why didnt god just do that to everyone. No matter which way you wanna talk this argument it will always come back to God's incompetence or lack of will. Lack of will which would make him complicit in these acts of terror
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Romans 1:18-20
"For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools" - Romans 1:21-22.
If free will and "sin" exists, God has little to do with the acts of man other than to have put the system itself in place and let it accomplish its overall purpose. Nevertheless, this guy wasn't an Atheist. I've seen this behavior up close and personal. Americans don't understand it because it doesn't come from a Judaeo-Christian-Secular culture.
Is God omniscient or not? If he isnt then hes hardly a God. If he is then free will is a myth and the entire concept of a god that sits back and lets things happen is entirely incoherent. An omniscient God necessitates that he knows and therefore consequentially pre-plans everything. Even these acts of terror.
Secondly, If i am holding a loaded gun and i stand 10 feet away and watch a violent mugging occur, and i do nothing to stop it, then it would be fair to say im somewhat to blame for that crime successfully taking place. But God, someone who can bend and shape reality itself at will sits by and lets a man kill some 60 people and shoot 500 more (many of which im sure are honest christians) and does nothing and hes NOT at fault?
Why? Something something free will and sin. So yeah. Uh no thats not an excuse
And how do you know this shooter wasnt an atheist? Thusfar theres no proof of a motive yet and all information seems to indicate he wasnt religious at all.
The word "omniscient" isn't in the Bible. You're throwing out theoretical jargin that neither of us could possibly know the answer to.
If he isnt then hes hardly a God.
A "God" would simply need the quality of having created our reality and had authority or power over it.
If he is then free will is a myth
The term "free will" is nowhere in the Bible. More theoretical jargin.
and the entire concept of a god that sits back and lets things happen is entirely incoherent.
I do it all of the time with simulated games (Sim city, etc) where I created their world. I watch to see what happens. Sometimes I speed it up so I can see the final outcome quicker.
An omniscient God necessitates that he knows and therefore consequentially pre-plans everything. Even these acts of terror.
Knowing something doesn't mean you did the something.
Secondly, If i am holding a loaded gun and i stand 10 feet away and watch a violent mugging occur, and i do nothing to stop it, then it would be fair to say im somewhat to blame for that crime successfully taking place.
I watched Russel Westbrook dunk a ball a week ago live. I had nothing to do with said dunk.
But God, someone who can bend and shape reality itself at will sits by and lets a man kill some 60 people and shoot 500 more (many of which im sure are honest christians) and does nothing and hes NOT at fault?
The word "omniscient" isn't in the Bible. You're throwing out theoretical jargin that neither of us could possibly know the answer to.
just because the word doesnt exist in the bible doesnt mean it his omniscience isnt described in the text. But i agree with your conclusion
A "God" would simply need the quality of having created our reality and had authority or power over it.
That implies omniscience to the degree our reality is concerned.
The term "free will" is nowhere in the Bible. More theoretical jargin
its spelled jargon. And again just because that exact terminology isnt used doesnt mean that concept isnt described
I do it all of the time with simulated games (Sim city, etc) where I created their world. I watch to see what happens. Sometimes I speed it up so I can see the final outcome quicker.
why would a god so far above human emotions need entertainment? it also implies suffering is entertainment. Also, when were playing sims we have fun drowning and catching their houses on fire because they arent real. This god apparently doesnt care that were actually living beings. if your sims were actually alive im sure youd play the game much differently.
Knowing something doesn't mean you did the something.
But if you are responsible for creating the circumstances and you know the outcome that arises from them then you must have intended them.
I know that a ball rolls down a ramp because of gravity. if i set up a ramp from my shelf to the ground and put a ball on top i know it will roll to the ground. When i release the ball and it does inevitably roll to the ground it is clearly because i caused that to happen. I created all the circumstances for it and knew what the result would be. I could make the ramp taller, or shorter to change the speed. If i tilt it up then i must be intending it to go faster.
I watched Russel Westbrook dunk a ball a week ago live. I had nothing to do with said dunk.
a dunk is not something youd ever be expected to take place in or prevent. thats a cop out and a half
Bump Stocks are the best thing the Obama ATF could have ever done and he claimed to be a Christian. The site clown is covered up in a BS cloak of stupidity.
Nope. Being a Conservative, having not been indoctrinated with Liberalism, and being grounded in reality keeps me from shooting 500 people. Otherwise I'd shoot up a gay nightclub, wear masks and use violence to keep Conservatives from speaking, firebomb the police, shoot the police with sniper rifles, bomb a London railway, shoot 500 people at a Country concert from a Mandalay Bay window, bomb a Belgium airport, have gang wars with my own minority race killing them in the street, bomb the Boston Marathon, mow down a concert at the Bataclan theatre with machine guns, take sex slaves, burn children alive, shoot up girls schools, drown people in cages, chop off heads at a plant in Oklahoma, kill my co workers in San Bernardino, kill my fellow student in Columbine, Colorado, and take down the Twin Towers like a devout Liberal or liberal alliance group does.
And if you have the Sermon on the Mount programmed into your mind, that certainly doesn't hurt.
Nope. Being a Conservative, having not been indoctrinated with Liberalism, and being grounded in reality keeps me from shooting 500 people. Otherwise I'd shoot up a gay nightclub, wear masks and use violence to keep Conservatives from speaking, firebomb the police, shoot the police with sniper rifles, bomb a London railway, shoot 500 people at a Country concert from a Mandalay Bay window, bomb a Belgium airport, have gang wars with my own minority race killing them in the street, bomb the Boston Marathon, mow down a concert at the Bataclan theatre with machine guns, take sex slaves, burn children alive, shoot up girls schools, drown people in cages, chop off heads at a plant in Oklahoma, kill my co workers in San Bernardino, kill my fellow student in Columbine, Colorado, and take down the Twin Towers like a devout Liberal or liberal alliance group does.
Are you seriously saying that liberalism (i.e. American left wingism) leads people to commit this acts. Man, you want attention bad eh?
Are you seriously saying that liberalism (i.e. American left wingism) leads people to commit this acts. Man, you want attention bad eh?
No. Islam makes many people do things like this, and oddly, the left defends it and even welcomes it into their countries with that dumb look on their face.
Just last week you were calling Muslims Conservatives on the grounds that they are (according to you) violent
Or because they are ultra religious and strongly believe in gender roles. Be sure and explain how that is "liberal". Then explain why you aren't suspicious of a group voting left that is far right by definition.
Don't you think it is funny that Moses would show everyone a stone carvings with this written on them?
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them"
