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Will Trumps wall really do ANYTHING?

Will this "wall" our president, Donald Trump, intends to have built really protect us from anything that the standard boarder we have now already does? Yes or No? Elaborate.
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3 points

Nope.

About 40% (probably more but it's difficult for exact percentages) of the immigrants that come here do so by flying and then they overstay their visa's. There will always be breaks in the wall, tunnels have already been built, there will always be a way around. The money wasted on both building and maintaining this wall would be better spent helping our homeless, feeding children and supporting veterans.

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
1 point

How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment.

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals.

No. It's a colossal waste of money. People can still use ladders, grappling hooks, and underground tunnels to get across. They can still send drugs over via all those same methods, plus catapults and drones. The only way to stop people crossing the border is constant monitoring of every inch of the border, which would cost a fortune. That cost would need to be weighed against the cost of having illegal immigrants here.

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
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How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment.

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals.

2 points

The wall is only all waffle the building of the wall will never get past planning stage , there are an array of land owners , environmentalists and legislators Trump will have to go through first ; he is playing Joe public like a well seasoned salesman and will get full credit for a valiant effort ........

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
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How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment.

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals.

2 points

Insofar that the security wall will frustrate the criminal's efforts of entering the United States I am certain that it's erection will make a significant contribution to significantly reducing the, virtually, uncontrolled influx of Mexican criminals.

It is unfortunate that the Mexicans have made such a mess of their country and even more unfortunate that the Mexican government cannot control its own borders.

It is in this context that it is only but fair and proper that the Mexican taxpayers, and not the U.S, pay for the construction of the wall.

The word illegal means, contrary to, or forbidden by law, so every Mexican who willfully enters the U.S, illegally is, by definition, a criminal.

Due to the illegal status of the Mexican illegals their employers cannot deduct the just and lawful taxes from the earnings of the greaser criminals and their presence in the labor market keeps wages unrealistically low and denies the indigenous workers a 'livable wage'.

Those illegals/criminals who run businesses here profit from the stable and comparatively lucrative market which the U.S, provides, once more without paying their taxes in the same way as everyone has to.

Any measure which helps in keeping the filth out, and retarding the eventual outcome of turning parts of America into a third world country similar to Mexico must be good.

2 points

Trump justifies the wall with the idea that it'll stop drug smugglers. However, he completely underestimates them; they're not stupid enough to just walk over the border or climb over the fence with a huge pile of drugs, they go through tunnels and by air.

The wall is a huge waste of resources which Trump should instead spend on healthcare and your failing education system.

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
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How Mexico Treats Illegal Aliens

The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?

If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome.

Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment.

Law-enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal-alien arrests and deportations.

Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals.

NicolasCage(267) Disputed
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Your comment is irrelevant and has nothing to do with my argument. Try again, outlaw.

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
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Now NICK how could a failing education system have happened under Barack Obama ? Was he not the POTUS for the last 8 years ? How did this happen ?

NicolasCage(267) Disputed
1 point

Your education system has been failing for decades.

I love this ping-pong argument which Trumpsters constantly use. "Yeah, but, Obama did this and this!"

Blaming Obama for things when I'm trying to make a suggestion as to how Trump can better spend his budget is ridiculously ignorant. You can't ignore criticisms of Trump for his entire presidency by deflecting them onto other people.

NowASaint(841) Clarified
1 point

What failed him is the people in his life who were supposed to encourage a man to be a man and not to bend over for men

outlaw60(6215) Disputed
1 point

Tell me NICK how well the NHS is working in England ! You got some facts for me ?

NicolasCage(267) Disputed
2 points

Well, we have an utterly incompetent health secretary (who happens to be a conservative, would you believe that!) who wants to cut pay for doctors whilst increasing their working hours.

The NHS needs more funding, and it's the conservatives who are preventing that.

Other than that, it's working absolutely fine. Universal, free healthcare for everyone in the country with minimal strain on taxes. What the US should be, basically.

Yep. Walls kept out the Mongolian hoards and Hezbollah out of Israel. The Berlin Wall worked too well, which is why it "had to be destroyed".

1 point

Yes, the wall will work. The big question is how will he actually build it and pay for it?

1 point

I think it would work a little bit but I think the main message behind it is "hey we're not going to put up with this anymore." It may stop some of the illegal immigration but most of them come through the air or water ways anyways. I think we need to strengthen the border patrols without building the wall. That would be a lot more effective

First of all, it's not Trump's wall. The wall would belong to half of America that voted him into office.

Second, our border security HAS NOT worked for decades and is the reason we need a wall. If you listen to the liberal media, you willl be fed constant deception.

Look beyond the biased news networks. Watch Fox news if you want to get both sides of the information.

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YES! It will be a YUGE memorial after his death. He will always be remembered for taking tax money away from schools and hospitals, roads and railways, the poor and sick to build something that, remnants of which will exist on the lands of conservatives for centuries! (Others will eventually tear theirs down to make their land useful again). We will all remember, in our history books, when we were trumped!